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On April 03 2011 08:54 DeepBlu2 wrote:
I have one more question that I think applies to specifically zerg, but can apply to any race. Do you think the Notifications for when Chrono boosts, Spawn larvae, and Mules end help anyone? As a zerg player, I rarely ever notice the notifications and I'm trying to make it a habit to look for when my larvae pop. Do the notifications help you guys at all?
I am a toss and never even notice when it says my chrono boost has worn off. I always just use "the tap" to keep my energy low.
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On April 08 2011 07:49 Bluefish wrote:
If there was an SC2 world power ranking (International and Korean players together), who does everyone think would be the top 10?
oGsMC, IMMvp, Duckload-Ra, Nestea, SeleCt, Kiwikaki, EGIdra, Sen, Jinro, and Naniwa. In no particular order.
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On April 09 2011 03:29 Lore-Fighting wrote:Show nested quote +On April 08 2011 07:49 Bluefish wrote:
If there was an SC2 world power ranking (International and Korean players together), who does everyone think would be the top 10? oGsMC, IMMvp, Duckload-Ra, Nestea, SeleCt, Kiwikaki, EGIdra, Sen, Jinro, and Naniwa. In no particular order.
i think your being generous to the non koreans  maybe they would all feature in a top 20/30 but i cant see any white guy being in the top 10, fact is none of them made top 10 in the last gsl so its hard to justify putting them there even if they can take 1 or 2 games off of MC or MKP.
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On April 09 2011 03:31 turdburgler wrote:Show nested quote +On April 09 2011 03:29 Lore-Fighting wrote:On April 08 2011 07:49 Bluefish wrote:
If there was an SC2 world power ranking (International and Korean players together), who does everyone think would be the top 10? oGsMC, IMMvp, Duckload-Ra, Nestea, SeleCt, Kiwikaki, EGIdra, Sen, Jinro, and Naniwa. In no particular order. i think your being generous to the non koreans maybe they would all feature in a top 20/30 but i cant see any white guy being in the top 10, fact is none of them made top 10 in the last gsl so its hard to justify putting them there even if they can take 1 or 2 games off of MC or MKP.
But Jinro made top 4! And I hear what you are saying. I don't think the koreans are really significantly better though. Just a hunch.
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hey... quick question... I'm having trouble casting forcefields. Searched forcefields, and none of the threads help.
To the best of my knowledge, the only way to the use the shift method to cast is to press stop first (pressing f then shift does not work). I don't want to add another button press and slow my ffs down...
When I hold f and click the mouse, usually that works, but sometimes I end up clicking a zerg unit despite holding f down. This would happen when I would use the hold button click method to warp in units as well until I started using shift (I would end up selecting one of my own units or a pylon).
I don't this is supposed to happen... but it does. Usually in huge battles. I'm positive I'm slamming down the f k when this happens. Do I have any recourse besides hitting my sentry hotkey again and pressing f again?
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Lalalaland34504 Posts
Spam the F button instead of holding it down?
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Blink stalkers just got REALLY popular in pvp last month. Everyone and their mom is doing defensive 4 gate into blink stalkers. It is a much better transition than robo I think, and you can actually beat 3gate robo if your opponent went straight to colossus instead of getting many immortals. I wonder if DTs will start to get popular as well.
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On April 09 2011 12:22 Drowsy wrote:
Blink stalkers just got REALLY popular in pvp last month. Everyone and their mom is doing defensive 4 gate into blink stalkers. It is a much better transition than robo I think, and you can actually beat 3gate robo if your opponent went straight to colossus instead of getting many immortals. I wonder if DTs will start to get popular as well.
I use this all the time. I even get a couple cannons and a plus one so I can hold then attack with more success.
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On April 09 2011 12:22 Drowsy wrote:
Blink stalkers just got REALLY popular in pvp last month. Everyone and their mom is doing defensive 4 gate into blink stalkers. It is a much better transition than robo I think, and you can actually beat 3gate robo if your opponent went straight to colossus instead of getting many immortals. I wonder if DTs will start to get popular as well.
What league are you in?
For me, I've noticed a lot more protoss playing robo builds instead of any 4 gate opening trying to push the game into Colossus wars.
On April 09 2011 03:29 Lore-Fighting wrote:Show nested quote +On April 08 2011 07:49 Bluefish wrote:
If there was an SC2 world power ranking (International and Korean players together), who does everyone think would be the top 10? oGsMC, IMMvp, Duckload-Ra, Nestea, SeleCt, Kiwikaki, EGIdra, Sen, Jinro, and Naniwa. In no particular order.
All of the foreigners you've mentioned are great players but I don't think any of them would warrant a place in an internation top 10. Especially Select. His greatness has been relatively limited to the ladder imo.
On April 09 2011 07:07 -_- wrote:
hey... quick question... I'm having trouble casting forcefields. Searched forcefields, and none of the threads help.
To the best of my knowledge, the only way to the use the shift method to cast is to press stop first (pressing f then shift does not work). I don't want to add another button press and slow my ffs down...
When I hold f and click the mouse, usually that works, but sometimes I end up clicking a zerg unit despite holding f down. This would happen when I would use the hold button click method to warp in units as well until I started using shift (I would end up selecting one of my own units or a pylon).
I don't this is supposed to happen... but it does. Usually in huge battles. I'm positive I'm slamming down the f k when this happens. Do I have any recourse besides hitting my sentry hotkey again and pressing f again?
I know what you're talking about, but it's a problem that just randomly comes up now and again. I practice a lot vs the ai on my laptop on campus when I can't commit to real games to just practicing forcefields in all the maps. I try to place them as efficiently and quickly as possible (in an attempt to emulate the pros).
Since I've gotten faster, I haven't had the problem of accidentally clicking on a unit. May just be a coincidence, but it's worth trying out.
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On April 09 2011 12:34 Clicker wrote:Show nested quote +On April 09 2011 12:22 Drowsy wrote:
Blink stalkers just got REALLY popular in pvp last month. Everyone and their mom is doing defensive 4 gate into blink stalkers. It is a much better transition than robo I think, and you can actually beat 3gate robo if your opponent went straight to colossus instead of getting many immortals. I wonder if DTs will start to get popular as well. What league are you in? For me, I've noticed a lot more protoss playing robo builds instead of any 4 gate opening trying to push the game into Colossus wars.
middle masters. I don't even remember the last time I saw a 2gas opener or traditional 3gate robo. It's either 19-20 probe offensive 4-gate or 21-24 probe defensive 4-gate. Sometimes they do 3 gates off of 1 gas, chronos on probes, and delayed 4th gate. It's about the equivalent of the 21-24 probe defensive 4 gate though.
I'm trying out the 1gate robo build that kcdc posted about months ago. You know how 2/3 gate robo requires "good micro" to hold a 4 gate? So does 1gate robo, but it's in a different way. With 2/3 gate robo, if your ff is off by 1 hex, or 1 second, you lose the game. With 1 gate robo, you don't need to worry about that, you just have to micro the shit out of your 1-2 immortals and keep them firing at stalkers while not taking too many hits. It's still pretty hard, but I think this build might catch on in the future, because you're just in such a great position if it turned out he was going for a more eco-based 4 gate. With the 3stalker rush into 3-gate robo, I had severe problems against defensive 4 gaters and 3 gates 1 gas delayed 4th gate. I'm also quite sure that build will get crushed by an astute 4-gater who simply backs off, builds probes, and transitions to blink. Blink is just so strong against small numbers of robo units.
I'm honestly relieved to spawn close positions because the adelscott 2gate pvp is still so unexpected and wins so many games with the first poke.
I do kinda hope blizzard does something about this. The 4gates over and over again are moderately fun and interesting as a player, but it's horrible from a spectator standpoint. I think just lowering immortal and/or robo build time would have almost 0 impact on pvz, very little on pvt, but could put an end to the 4gate or die pvp metagame. But then I guess colossus wars are hardly a great alternative...
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On April 08 2011 20:16 wxwx wrote:
Does anyone know how to play late game PvT anymore? Without amulet, it seems I keep dying to ANYTHING the terran throws at me. My PvT record is pretty good, but I usually win in the mid game due to colossus vs low viking count, or setting up a FF contain.
But now that amulet is gone, I have lost every 30+ minute game against terran. Once you start taking your 4th or 5th base that is pretty far (or even a different main) then you keep getting dropped everywhere. And without warp-in storm it is getting pretty ridiculous. I am already setting up templars in each base, but I am spread too thin because templar are 150 a piece, and I have basically no army if I were to put 2 at each expo (and also my main structures). But I still suck it up and put two at each base. I was able to ward off the first wave of drops, but my opponent is able to mass rally marauders and soon I am finding myself wishing I still had warp-in storms.
Think about it: it takes maybe 3-4 storms to kill marauders, assuming the marauder moves a little bit. Sure you can get off the storms since you prepared templar at each base. But the drops keep on coming, and soon your forces are too thin.
An example is last game: tal darim altar. Goes into a long 30+ minute game, and I am forced to take another main. I am good for the first few minutes since I had my templar set up. But drops keep whittling me down. He doesn't even get ghosts. He just rallies marauders, does 2 dropship marauder drops, and eventually kills me. I was always a base ahead of him, but I was unable to harass him and he kept harassing my bases.
There are obviously many things that I could have done better in the game (split my army better, do some storm drops, etc) but there must be some other way to PvT without having to be perfect. Obviously templar would work in a perfectly described scenario, but in a real game stuff doesn't always turn out as planned. Even in pro games, marauder drops survive the initial storms, and snipe a nexus so quickly before the protoss army can get to it.
Please tell me how to handle late game PvT!!
Another complaint is that templar have NO OFFENSIVE POTENTIAL at all anymore. Sigh...
Both Templars are good. No idea what you mean by "templar have NO OFFENSIVE POTENTIAL at all anymore.". Put 1 or 2 dark templar in your army, so that it forces a scan and they take damage while killing off the dark templars or they kill your army but heavy damage from the dark templar. For high templar, all you gotta do is warp them in ahead of time. No more of the OP insta-storm. Never miss a production cycle and make archons if they go bio. If they go mech, grab a shit ton of voids and carriers. Make sure you are constantly upgrading, constantly producing units, and keep pushing. You will eventually overwhelm them. If there are too many vikings, obviously, you should stop wasting money on colossi and spam Stalker-Sentry-Zealot. It's a very powerful combination.
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On April 09 2011 12:22 Drowsy wrote:
Blink stalkers just got REALLY popular in pvp last month. Everyone and their mom is doing defensive 4 gate into blink stalkers. It is a much better transition than robo I think, and you can actually beat 3gate robo if your opponent went straight to colossus instead of getting many immortals. I wonder if DTs will start to get popular as well.
I think High Templar to the mineral line will be next.
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I just recently started playing after the latest patch...
how often is there a balance patch and do the ladder maps change when there is a major patch ?
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Are the TSL replays released? (RO32 so far, I guess) If so, where can I get them? A package would be great instead of individual game downloads. Thanks in advance.
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On April 10 2011 04:07 usethis2 wrote:
Are the TSL replays released? (RO32 so far, I guess) If so, where can I get them? A package would be great instead of individual game downloads. Thanks in advance.
http://www.pokerstrategytsl3.com/
You can get VODs there of the casts, but not actual replays are being released. There was a big discussion about that a while ago in one of the threads, and it pretty much came down to the fact that TL has no control over how people use the replays for rebroadcasts or anything like that. The VODs are spoiler free too for series since there's just a link for the next game in the series when you watch them from the site even if there isn't a game 5 in a Bo5.
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On April 08 2011 07:49 Bluefish wrote:
If there was an SC2 world power ranking (International and Korean players together), who does everyone think would be the top 10?
1.- MC/MVP
3.- MKP
4.- JulyZerg
5.- NesTea
6.- Dimaga
7.- White-Ra
8.- HoSeoSan (Is that the right name?)
9.- Idra
10.- SlayerS_MMA
If I had seen more of the rising SlayerS stars, I'd probably have an all-korean top-10
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On April 10 2011 08:38 mordk wrote:Show nested quote +On April 08 2011 07:49 Bluefish wrote:
If there was an SC2 world power ranking (International and Korean players together), who does everyone think would be the top 10? 1.- MC/MVP 3.- MKP 4.- JulyZerg 5.- NesTea 6.- Dimaga 7.- White-Ra 8.- HoSeoSan (Is that the right name?) 9.- Idra 10.- SlayerS_MMA If I had seen more of the rising SlayerS stars, I'd probably have an all-korean top-10
Dimaga and White-Ra over IdrA ? no chance.
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On April 10 2011 08:42 Sqq wrote:Show nested quote +On April 10 2011 08:38 mordk wrote:On April 08 2011 07:49 Bluefish wrote:
If there was an SC2 world power ranking (International and Korean players together), who does everyone think would be the top 10? 1.- MC/MVP 3.- MKP 4.- JulyZerg 5.- NesTea 6.- Dimaga 7.- White-Ra 8.- HoSeoSan (Is that the right name?) 9.- Idra 10.- SlayerS_MMA If I had seen more of the rising SlayerS stars, I'd probably have an all-korean top-10 Dimaga and White-Ra over IdrA ? no chance.
It's my opinion, I think both of them are WAY better than Idra. Feel free to post your list if you think otherwise 
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