• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 17:46
CEST 23:46
KST 06:46
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Power Rank - Esports World Cup 202561RSL Season 1 - Final Week9[ASL19] Finals Recap: Standing Tall15HomeStory Cup 27 - Info & Preview18Classic wins Code S Season 2 (2025)16
Community News
BSL Team Wars - Bonyth, Dewalt, Hawk & Sziky teams10Weekly Cups (July 14-20): Final Check-up0Esports World Cup 2025 - Brackets Revealed19Weekly Cups (July 7-13): Classic continues to roll8Team TLMC #5 - Submission re-extension4
StarCraft 2
General
The GOAT ranking of GOAT rankings EWC 2025 details: $700k total prize; GSL, DH Dallas confirmed Power Rank - Esports World Cup 2025 What tournaments are world championships? #1: Maru - Greatest Players of All Time
Tourneys
Esports World Cup 2025 Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament FEL Cracov 2025 (July 27) - $8000 live event Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2) Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond)
Strategy
How did i lose this ZvP, whats the proper response
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation #239 Bad Weather Mutation # 483 Kill Bot Wars Mutation # 482 Wheel of Misfortune Mutation # 481 Fear and Lava
Brood War
General
Ginuda's JaeDong Interview Series [Update] ShieldBattery: 2025 Redesign BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ BW General Discussion Dewalt's Show Matches in China
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues CSL Xiamen International Invitational [CSLPRO] It's CSLAN Season! - Last Chance [BSL 2v2] ProLeague Season 3 - Friday 21:00 CET
Strategy
Does 1 second matter in StarCraft? [G] Mineral Boosting Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread [MMORPG] Tree of Savior (Successor of Ragnarok) Path of Exile CCLP - Command & Conquer League Project
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Stop Killing Games - European Citizens Initiative Russo-Ukrainian War Thread US Politics Mega-thread Post Pic of your Favorite Food!
Fan Clubs
SKT1 Classic Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[\m/] Heavy Metal Thread Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Korean Music Discussion
Sports
Formula 1 Discussion 2024 - 2025 Football Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 NBA General Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Installation of Windows 10 suck at "just a moment" Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Ping To Win? Pings And Their…
TrAiDoS
momentary artworks from des…
tankgirl
from making sc maps to makin…
Husyelt
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Socialism Anyone?
GreenHorizons
Eight Anniversary as a TL…
Mizenhauer
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 738 users

NASL Season 1 Passes - $25 - Page 7

Forum Index > SC2 General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 5 6 7 8 9 75 Next
cujo2k
Profile Joined October 2007
Canada1044 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-01 20:14:27
April 01 2011 20:14 GMT
#121
Another company following the Gretech business model =[ Really disappointing from NASL.
You would think NASL would have an easier time getting western based sponsors especially with their time zones in sync, so they'd be able to make more money off of commercials than Gom could.
THE ANSWER IS 288
Resilient
Profile Joined June 2010
United Kingdom1431 Posts
April 01 2011 20:14 GMT
#122
I would have bought it instantly if it wasn't for the Demuslim fiasco. So many things don't quite add-up with this league so I'll wait a while.
LoliKuma
Profile Joined June 2010
United States237 Posts
April 01 2011 20:14 GMT
#123
On April 02 2011 05:12 decaf wrote:
If they want to make esports bigger why don't they give away the VODs for free?


Maybe, JUST MAYBE they're a business, and this is a good way to gauge what demands are and what kind of adjustment they need to make on their side, both in a technical sense and business sense, to improve overall production value for us.
The End DOES Justifiy the Means
deerpark87
Profile Joined January 2011
760 Posts
April 01 2011 20:15 GMT
#124
I going to wait out season 1 first. I want to see how NASL is compare to IGN's league. I want to choose one with the highest quality.
Phaint
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada211 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-01 20:15:56
April 01 2011 20:15 GMT
#125
On April 02 2011 05:14 cujo2k wrote:
Another company following the Gretech business model =[ Really disappointing from NASL.
You would think NASL would have an easier time getting western based sponsors especially with their time zones in sync, so they'd be able to make more money off of commercials than Gom could.


Apparently they are following both models at once.

Subscription? Check
Commercials? Check
Hrrrrm
Profile Joined March 2010
United States2081 Posts
April 01 2011 20:15 GMT
#126
On April 02 2011 05:08 yamato77 wrote:
If you guys don't want to pay for NASL, and want to whine about it's management, choices, and casters, then so be it. But don't be surprised when they have to cancel the league because of not enough support, and you're left without all of the content they produce.

I swear, this year could be THE year for e-sports, and the community is going to ruin it. I hate every single person that comes in here and whines about every single thing imaginable in a league that people worked their asses off to get up and running.

Support NASL. Support E-Sports. Support SC2.


What content have they produced SO FAR that I will be sorry about? Oh that's right NONE. I want them to succeed and hope they do but, they haven't shown ANYTHING yet. E-Sports will continue on with or without the NASL just like all the other organizations that disappeared. I'm tired of this can't criticize attitude for the "benefit" of E-SPORTS. The NASL will be gone if it can't make a profit at the end of Season 3, you think they'll be going into massive debt for E-SPORTS! I think not.
alot = a lot (TWO WORDS)
LagT_T
Profile Joined March 2010
Argentina535 Posts
April 01 2011 20:16 GMT
#127
On April 02 2011 05:08 Mash2 wrote:
Wasn't it INcontrol that laughed at MLG on State of the Game for nickel and diming people for the $5 fee? Don't get me wrong, I understand why they are doing it, it just seems hypocritical.


Re-watch it please and inform yourself before acting like a retard and stating suppositions as facts. The fee wasn't for a stream but for an open tournament.

I'll pay, of course, VOD access is a no-brainer.
"The tactics... no. Amateurs discuss tactics, professional soldiers study logistics." - Tom Clancy, Red Storm Rising
Shoe555
Profile Joined December 2010
China199 Posts
April 01 2011 20:16 GMT
#128
Would have bought it for $25, but $20 presale just makes it sweeter. For this amount of content, it's completely worth it. And even if the league completely crashes and burns, which I don't foresee happening at all, it was only $20. I can understand other people being hesitant about it, I'm a student as well, but consider it an investment in e-Sports.
Life is hard; I often make it needlessly harder on myself.
CptGrackSparrow
Profile Joined February 2011
United States278 Posts
April 01 2011 20:16 GMT
#129
I'm actually somewhat shocked that people are complaining about this $20-$25 fee. It's probably somewhere close to 200 hours of entertainment. You go to the movies its $10 a head, you see a PPV fight its $50, you go to any live pro-sporting even it's $50+ and all of those things only last 2-3 hours.
Zeroxk
Profile Joined October 2010
Norway1244 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-01 20:20:39
April 01 2011 20:16 GMT
#130
On April 02 2011 05:08 yamato77 wrote:
If you guys don't want to pay for NASL, and want to whine about it's management, choices, and casters, then so be it. But don't be surprised when they have to cancel the league because of not enough support, and you're left without all of the content they produce.

I swear, this year could be THE year for e-sports, and the community is going to ruin it. I hate every single person that comes in here and whines about every single thing imaginable in a league that people worked their asses off to get up and running.

Support NASL. Support E-Sports. Support SC2.


Just because people are sceptical to supporting one league they're "ruining" e-sports? I am pretty sure western SC2 won't do or die by how the NASL is received, there are A LOT of other SC2 tourneys and leagues coming up in the non-Korean scene.

On April 02 2011 05:09 Baarn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2011 05:08 bonifaceviii wrote:
Count me a member of the "minimal commercials isn't good enough" crowd. If I pay I don't want commercials.


What do you suppose they do in between matches?


Correct me if I'm wrong but all casts will be pre-recorded and "spiced up", why would there be a need for breaks
Mash2
Profile Joined February 2011
United States132 Posts
April 01 2011 20:17 GMT
#131
On April 02 2011 05:16 LagT_T wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2011 05:08 Mash2 wrote:
Wasn't it INcontrol that laughed at MLG on State of the Game for nickel and diming people for the $5 fee? Don't get me wrong, I understand why they are doing it, it just seems hypocritical.


Re-watch it please and inform yourself before acting like a retard and stating suppositions as facts. The fee wasn't for a stream but for an open tournament.

I'll pay, of course, VOD access is a no-brainer.


When a sentence ends in a question mark, its a question, not a statement of facts. Relax dude.
"Quite often the flood of history is undammed or diverted by the character and actions of one man." - Pat Frank, "Alas, Babylon"
luckylefty
Profile Joined November 2010
United States272 Posts
April 01 2011 20:17 GMT
#132
I am with a lot of other people in here, I will deff. buy a ticket when I can see ANYTHING that was produced by NASL. As of right now, it's not worth it because they haven't even shown a preview and the season is starting soon.
Phyxx
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark681 Posts
April 01 2011 20:17 GMT
#133
They will have to convince me that the tournament is worth paying for, just like GSL. Even though it might be harder for them when GSL already provide me with my daily starcraft fix.
lurked
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada918 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-01 20:22:49
April 01 2011 20:18 GMT
#134
-_-

In my opinion, the 'Minimal commercial interruptions' simply means the 5ish mins commercial breaks here and there between break... I doubt that they'll have people pay 25$ for the season, and then force you to watch a 1min commercial before the game, a 30secs commercial every 15mins, and then a final commercial...

Anyway, most people quoting the 'commercial interruptions' as a reason for not buying it would probably NOT buy it anyway, because if they were even slightly interested in buying the season pass, they would've questioned themselves(and the admins) what kind of interruptions it means, before to be like: "OMFG no way in f.ing heck am I paying 25$ to have more ads than awesome sc2 content! OMFGWTHBBQ NASL SUCKS"

You know what? You pay for cable(or satellite dish) but you still get commercial interruption while watching... OMG am I an idiot? It seemed to me like their business model is the same as broadcasted TV!!! It will OBVIOUSLY fail, because of the "Minimal commercial interruptions"...

Edit: Oh I forgot, broadcasted TV doesn't allow you to go back and watch any VOD at anytime, for no additional charges...
Magic is "just" magic until I get my hands on the source code.
JayConn
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States408 Posts
April 01 2011 20:18 GMT
#135
It's completely worth it, imo. Just depends on how much extra cash I have laying around. Probably will end up getting it.
Orome
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Switzerland11984 Posts
April 01 2011 20:18 GMT
#136
Probably won't be buying it because I'm not particularly interested in any of the players apart from the Liquid guys, but I don't think $20/25 is unreasonable at all.
On a purely personal note, I'd like to show Yellow the beauty of infinitely repeating Starcraft 2 bunkers. -Boxer
xBillehx
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States1289 Posts
April 01 2011 20:18 GMT
#137
It's a good deal but I still have my doubts about the quality of the league. It's a wait and see deal for me. :x
Taengoo ♥
ZombiesOMG
Profile Joined October 2010
United States282 Posts
April 01 2011 20:18 GMT
#138
Of course, especially for the quality they are boasting.

25$ or 20$ for 3 months is not a big deal, in fact it sounds awesome! I'll just have 2 less drinks tomorrow night when I go out, and there's my stream money. Lollll.

I pay for these things because SC2 and esports is something I enjoy a lot, and if all I have to do is skip buying a thing or two here and there to afford it, well. . . so be it! At this point it's the only way I can think of to support the growth and betterment of esports, especially here in the west.

relyt
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1073 Posts
April 01 2011 20:19 GMT
#139
Im gonna wait and see what its like first. If its entertaining and there are good games them i might pay. I can't really tell how much i will get for the money before i know what the quality of the product is.
riboflavin
Profile Joined April 2010
United States226 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-01 20:23:22
April 01 2011 20:19 GMT
#140
On April 02 2011 04:36 CptGrackSparrow wrote:
I can see people freaking out about $25 for one season, but you have to realize this season will last 3 months. You can't compare this to the GSL because you'll be getting so much more content.


How about...

You can't compare it to the GSL because it is not really broadcast live in professional studio with a live audience.

You can't compare it to the GSL because GSL has the top tier casters and content production.

You can't compare it to the GSL because the GSL actually has the best players in the world instead of some pretty good players mixed in with a bunch of others guys that have colorful personalities.

I will be buying a pass. I will not be buying into the comparisons.
Prev 1 5 6 7 8 9 75 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 12h 15m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Nathanias 197
StarCraft: Brood War
Larva 650
TY 216
Dota 2
capcasts212
monkeys_forever74
League of Legends
Grubby4508
Counter-Strike
Fnx 2165
Stewie2K750
taco 363
flusha244
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King103
Liquid`Ken28
AZ_Axe18
Heroes of the Storm
Liquid`Hasu603
Other Games
tarik_tv15839
summit1g8987
gofns8061
FrodaN2162
Hui .242
C9.Mang089
Sick41
PPMD34
Organizations
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 20 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• poizon28 67
• Hupsaiya 59
• musti20045 34
• Adnapsc2 8
• davetesta4
• Kozan
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• sooper7s
• intothetv
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• HerbMon 36
• FirePhoenix2
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota22629
League of Legends
• Doublelift3925
Other Games
• imaqtpie1243
Upcoming Events
CranKy Ducklings
12h 15m
BSL20 Non-Korean Champi…
16h 15m
CSO Cup
18h 15m
BSL20 Non-Korean Champi…
20h 15m
Bonyth vs Sziky
Dewalt vs Hawk
Hawk vs QiaoGege
Sziky vs Dewalt
Mihu vs Bonyth
Zhanhun vs QiaoGege
QiaoGege vs Fengzi
FEL
1d 11h
BSL20 Non-Korean Champi…
1d 16h
BSL20 Non-Korean Champi…
1d 20h
Bonyth vs Zhanhun
Dewalt vs Mihu
Hawk vs Sziky
Sziky vs QiaoGege
Mihu vs Hawk
Zhanhun vs Dewalt
Fengzi vs Bonyth
Sparkling Tuna Cup
3 days
Online Event
3 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
4 days
[ Show More ]
The PondCast
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

CSL Xiamen Invitational
Championship of Russia 2025
Murky Cup #2

Ongoing

Copa Latinoamericana 4
Jiahua Invitational
BSL20 Non-Korean Championship
CC Div. A S7
Underdog Cup #2
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 7
IEM Dallas 2025
PGL Astana 2025
Asian Champions League '25

Upcoming

CSLPRO Last Chance 2025
ASL Season 20: Qualifier #1
ASL Season 20: Qualifier #2
ASL Season 20
CSLPRO Chat StarLAN 3
BSL Season 21
RSL Revival: Season 2
Maestros of the Game
SEL Season 2 Championship
uThermal 2v2 Main Event
FEL Cracov 2025
HCC Europe
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.