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the9thdude
Profile Joined March 2011
United States41 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-01 20:20:35
April 01 2011 20:19 GMT
#141
Too many people with plugs in their butt... Okay, so there are ads, but let's consider that the GSL has a membership fee and you still get ads. Hulu+, ads; Youtube, ads; many player channels, ads. These are not new, so get over it. Besides, they're most likely going to be placed in between matches and won't take more than 30 seconds. So chillax and watch the game with a handful of ads... or watch the free version and see two hundred of them. Your choice.

I also know that Youtube and player channels are free to watch, but they have really long, obnoxious ads.
Those who are overconfident, are careless.
yoshi_yoshi
Profile Joined January 2010
United States440 Posts
April 01 2011 20:20 GMT
#142
Given that they are privately funded, I expect that they expected to make a large portion of their income stream from these passes. 10k * 20 = 200k. They saw how well GOM was doing with their passes and I'm sure it was a huge part of their calculations. So it is important and I hope it works out for them.

The one thing I'd say is to definitely provide a PayPal option. Given some of their minor mishaps (not having timezone for countdown timer, commenting unreleased names in their source code, non-impressive website), I don't have full confidence that they know enough to protect submitted credit card numbers.
godemperor
Profile Joined October 2010
Belgium2043 Posts
April 01 2011 20:20 GMT
#143
Not gunna pay for season 1, maybe season.
floor exercise
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada5847 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-01 20:21:45
April 01 2011 20:20 GMT
#144
On April 02 2011 05:09 Baarn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2011 05:08 bonifaceviii wrote:
Count me a member of the "minimal commercials isn't good enough" crowd. If I pay I don't want commercials.


What do you suppose they do in between matches?


The minimal commercial thing is for vods according to what is written.

They are pre recorded so I imagine they are doing some /commercial between games.

What you get is higher bitrate but the same commercials during live games and then the vods will have commercials as well.. The "minimal" thing doesn't mean you get less commercials than a non subscriber or anything like that since they can't see vods at all. Basically just trying to spin that vods will have commercials. I don't really care, it's probably a commercial like before any of the vods on blip etc, not a big deal

What concerns me more is "(including weekly shows, analysis, highlights, and matches)"

Is that planned at all? It seems like very little is planned right now but this is promising additional content which we haven't heard about at all until now. Is it real or is it like Gosuguide style weekly content. it sounds like a bargain if it's true, but if it's just talk, you start getting into refund territory when it turns out to be fluff.

We honestly know so little about NASL even though the start date is very soon.

I would suggest they keep this presale available throughout the first week, because there's just so many questions left unanswered about the quality of the tournament and what people are actually paying for after things like Clash of the Titans.
Kahzaar
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden897 Posts
April 01 2011 20:21 GMT
#145
I will definitely buy a ticket to support western e-sports. Also, 20 $ is a good price for 3 seasons compared the the GSL.
zasda
Profile Joined March 2011
381 Posts
April 01 2011 20:21 GMT
#146
maybe if they were live
LoliKuma
Profile Joined June 2010
United States237 Posts
April 01 2011 20:21 GMT
#147
On April 02 2011 05:16 Zeroxk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2011 05:08 yamato77 wrote:
If you guys don't want to pay for NASL, and want to whine about it's management, choices, and casters, then so be it. But don't be surprised when they have to cancel the league because of not enough support, and you're left without all of the content they produce.

I swear, this year could be THE year for e-sports, and the community is going to ruin it. I hate every single person that comes in here and whines about every single thing imaginable in a league that people worked their asses off to get up and running.

Support NASL. Support E-Sports. Support SC2.


Just because people are sceptical to supporting one league they're "ruining" e-sports? I am pretty sure western SC2 won't do or die by how the NASL is received, there are A LOT of other SC2 tourneys and leagues coming up in the non-Korean scene.


However, if people do support such a large and ambitious league, more potential sponsors will see it and it will further help support e-sports. So why not support the NASL? It's $20, heck going out to eat a decent dinner's more expensive than that. And please take the whining/complaining/trolling to another thread, and lets discuss how awesome this league is gonna be
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FlamingTurd
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1059 Posts
April 01 2011 20:21 GMT
#148
After looking further into this... I just had to purchase it for the $20... totally worth it! Looking at all those awesome names who are playing makes it all so much more amazing.
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JWill
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada52 Posts
April 01 2011 20:22 GMT
#149
Bah. I was heading over there to buy a pass, but they don't accept paypal. That's $20 of mine they're not getting.
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Seranius
Profile Joined February 2011
Denmark12 Posts
April 01 2011 20:22 GMT
#150
I'll definitely buy the pass though I do think it's a shame that it's not broadcasted live, as in "the real live" And I really don't see how 20$ for a 3 month pass is too much, it's not even 2 pizzas... At least not in Denmark ^^
Lamppost
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada317 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-01 20:23:52
April 01 2011 20:22 GMT
#151
Show me the level of production GSL has and I will gladly pay 20$, but show me anything else than that I'm going to stick with the free stream :D I WANT FIREBALL MACHINES EVERYWHERE ALMOST EXPLODING ON TOP OF PROGAMERS

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theKOT
Profile Joined June 2009
United States167 Posts
April 01 2011 20:22 GMT
#152
Paypal Please! I was at the page ready to purchase but I hate using my card online.
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venge1155
Profile Joined January 2011
United States174 Posts
April 01 2011 20:22 GMT
#153
Why are there so very many uniformed posters in this thread?
- There is a free LQ stream
- You are paying for 1080 streaming and HQ VODs
- This price is for 3 months of content I.E. Lower than a GSL HQ pass ( as it should be I doubt it will be the same caliber from the start, maybe after a couple successful seasons. We can hope none the less.)
- If the title of this thread included any other Streams name instead of NASL the amount of ignorant hate would be cut in half.

I am not saying anything that has not already been said in this thread, I just felt I needed to add another voice to the people who will be buying and not blindly hating on something because of ignorance.
dANiELcanuck
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada217 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-01 20:29:40
April 01 2011 20:23 GMT
#154
On April 02 2011 05:08 yamato77 wrote:
If you guys don't want to pay for NASL, and want to whine about it's management, choices, and casters, then so be it. But don't be surprised when they have to cancel the league because of not enough support, and you're left without all of the content they produce.

I swear, this year could be THE year for e-sports, and the community is going to ruin it. I hate every single person that comes in here and whines about every single thing imaginable in a league that people worked their asses off to get up and running.

Support NASL. Support E-Sports. Support SC2.


I'll support it by watching the free streams. They aren't doing this "For the love of the game". They're doing it to get rich. You can't force something into reality by throwing money at it, if e-Sports is meant to happen in the West (I personally feel it is), filling Russ' pockets with your money isn't going to make it come any faster. All this is doing is setting a precedent for more leagues to start and keep charging money. How many leagues can you afford to watch?
AtlasJQ
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada138 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-01 20:23:56
April 01 2011 20:23 GMT
#155
The thing is we aren't really guaranteed awesome content yet. They've had a few trial runs that were a bit rocky but they are a brand new, untested, unproven league with huge potential but no track record. GOM and even MLG have steadily improved their product each month and so its easier to say "you get such awesome content" with those brands.

I'd say most people will be waiting to see how Season 1 goes for NASL before they start spending money on it.
An old schooler from Katans Lair and Mavens Haven - | - Fav SC accomplishment: Beating SSamjang in the first i2e2. Yes, that SSamjang. I am old :(
Zaffy
Profile Joined February 2011
United Kingdom128 Posts
April 01 2011 20:23 GMT
#156
its priced very well. 1 months of content for GSL is $10 so 3 months for $20 is not bad at all.
waffles
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
April 01 2011 20:23 GMT
#157
On April 02 2011 05:15 Hrrrrm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2011 05:08 yamato77 wrote:
If you guys don't want to pay for NASL, and want to whine about it's management, choices, and casters, then so be it. But don't be surprised when they have to cancel the league because of not enough support, and you're left without all of the content they produce.

I swear, this year could be THE year for e-sports, and the community is going to ruin it. I hate every single person that comes in here and whines about every single thing imaginable in a league that people worked their asses off to get up and running.

Support NASL. Support E-Sports. Support SC2.


What content have they produced SO FAR that I will be sorry about? Oh that's right NONE. I want them to succeed and hope they do but, they haven't shown ANYTHING yet. E-Sports will continue on with or without the NASL just like all the other organizations that disappeared. I'm tired of this can't criticize attitude for the "benefit" of E-SPORTS. The NASL will be gone if it can't make a profit at the end of Season 3, you think they'll be going into massive debt for E-SPORTS! I think not.

They showed you a preview with the IdrA vs. Jinro showmatch, and they have stated on multiple fronts that the preview was going to pale in comparison to the production level of the real thing. Then, they held a Q&A on this very forum to answer almost every single question imaginable about how it's run and the format. Then they released public player application VODs and the player list to get you hyped up for the players you'd be watching in the league.

If you think you can't make an informed decision about whether or not the content they produce is worth watching from all of that, then you are just being ignorant. They are not being unreasonable, they want this thing to succeed and are doing EVERYTHING THEY CAN to get it to do so. If it fails, it's going to be because the community doesn't support it, and that's exactly what I'm saying.

If you want E-Sports to succeed, then you have to suport it somehow. It's just like Sundance said of SotG, they have lost money every year they've run MLG. 25$ for 3 months of all HD streaming and VODs is pittance compared to the awesome amount of games we'll undoubtedly be able to watch. The player list of the NASL is STACKED. I can't wait, personally.

If you don't want huge leagues with massive prize pools that exist in NA, then sure, you can go right on and not support it. But if the idea of watching SC2 like other people watch baseball or football is appealing to you, then you're going to have to realize the truth. Things like this cannot survive without support from the community, and that's all of us.
Writer@WriterYamato
phosphorylation
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2935 Posts
April 01 2011 20:23 GMT
#158
greed is the driving force behind nasl and gsl
this is no way to run esports
in contrast, sc1 esports had its roots in bona fide amateur context, only playing for the passion of th egame
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LesPhoques
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada782 Posts
April 01 2011 20:24 GMT
#159
If production level is on a decent level, then I will buy it. Also I am hesitant about casters, I just simply hate them >.<
Arco
Profile Joined September 2009
United States2090 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-01 20:24:27
April 01 2011 20:24 GMT
#160
I wont be paying. I'll be watching for free, though.
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