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Cedstick
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Canada3336 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-14 07:00:03
March 14 2011 06:59 GMT
#81
Double post sorry.
"What does Rivington do when he's not commentating?" "Drool." ~ Categorist
Luvz
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Norway356 Posts
March 14 2011 07:00 GMT
#82
On March 14 2011 15:55 Welmu wrote:
This might be stupid guestion, but who are the actual sponsors of TSL? Can't remember any :D


Yea the big huge picture saying Emtek doesnt give anything away at all
Norway ~ Home of the brave <3
Subversion
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
South Africa3627 Posts
March 14 2011 07:00 GMT
#83
thats really a pretty good salary in korea
DarkRise
Profile Joined November 2010
1644 Posts
March 14 2011 07:01 GMT
#84
On March 14 2011 15:45 kagemucha wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2011 15:40 echO [W] wrote:
On March 14 2011 15:31 W2 wrote:
Obviously this does not compare to the 6 digit salaries that the S-class BW players have. How does this compare against your typical A-class BW pro-gamers?

Considering the infancy of SC2, a great first step. Though I do echo your question, how much does the average A-class(B-team?) BW pro-gamer make?

http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=142342
Flash gets 220k USD. Highest salary player


last year he got 400k+ per year salary+prizes
bokchoi
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Korea (South)9498 Posts
March 14 2011 07:01 GMT
#85
Definitely goes to show how weak SC2 is in Korea in comparison to BW. Hopefully other Korean teams will be able to pick up more sponsors and more sponsors will continue to get involved so SC2 can continue to grow. At this point, it definitely is much more worthwhile to be a foreign (outside of Korea) SC2 player.
nokz88
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil1253 Posts
March 14 2011 07:03 GMT
#86
On March 14 2011 15:55 Welmu wrote:
This might be stupid guestion, but who are the actual sponsors of TSL? Can't remember any :D


http://www.sc2tsl.com/

In the main page there is a list with all the sponsors.
in a state of trance
bluehunter
Profile Joined August 2010
United States57 Posts
March 14 2011 07:03 GMT
#87
I think G-Skill and EVGA are some the companies sponsoring TSL so they must be making good money :D
the only logical way to solve the candle problem is to turn the lights off... BOOM!
Drake
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany6146 Posts
March 14 2011 07:04 GMT
#88
intel gives boxer a few hundret thousend + a few more for making a team so i am pretty sure slayers did it before
Nb.Drake / CoL_Drake / Original Joined TL.net Tuesday, 15th of March 2005
bokchoi
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Korea (South)9498 Posts
March 14 2011 07:06 GMT
#89
On March 14 2011 16:04 CoR wrote:
intel gives boxer a few hundret thousend + a few more for making a team so i am pretty sure slayers did it before


Technically, Intel only sponsors BoxeR and only BoxeR receives a salary,so, TSL would be the first Korean SC2 Pro-team to give salaries to their player. SlayerS is not sponsored by Intel, and only BoxeR's uniform features the Intel emblem.
red4ce
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States7313 Posts
March 14 2011 07:22 GMT
#90
On March 14 2011 15:31 W2 wrote:
Obviously this does not compare to the 6 digit salaries that the S-class BW players have. How does this compare against your typical A-class BW pro-gamers?


See this old thread
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=49725

SK1T
iloveoov, Choi Yunsung - $450,000 - 4.2005-3.2008
Kingdom, Park Yongwook - $300,000 - 4.2005-3.2008
GoRush, Park Taemin - $300,000 - 4.2005-3.2008

KTF
[Oops]Reach, Park Jungsuk - $400,000 - 1.2005-12.2007
YellOw, Hong Jinho - $330,000 - 4.2004-3.2007
Nal_rA, Kang Min - $330,000 - 4.2004-3.2007

CJ
XellOs, Seo Jihoon - $150,000 - 4.2006-3.2007
sAviOr, Ma Jaeyoon - $70,000 - 4.2006-3.2007

MBC Game
July, Park SungJoon - $110,000 - 4.2006-3.2007
PuSan[S.G], Park Jiho - $40,000 - 4.2006-3.2007
Sea.Shield , Yum Bosung - $20,000 - 4.2006-3.2007

Pantech
[ReD]NaDa, Lee Yoonyeol - $600,000 - 8.2004-7.2007
Silver, Shim Somyung - $90,000 - 8.2006-1.2008
TheROCK, Ahn Kihyo - $60,000 - 8.2006-1.2008

Samsung
JJu, Byun Eunjong - $70,000 - 1.2006-12.2006
Stork, Song Byungkoo - $50,000 - 1.2006-12.2006
ZergLee, Lee Changhoon - $46,000 - 1.2006-12.2006

LeCaf
AnyTime, Oh Youngjong - $40,000 - 3.2006-2.2007
Bright[z-zone], Kim SungKeon - $24,000 - 3.2006-2.2007
ShinHwA[Name], Choi Karam - $20,000 - 3.2006-2.2007

Ongamenet
ClouD, Cha Jaewook - $40,000 - 6.2006-5.2007
Casy[Alive], Han Dongwook - $36,000 - 6.2006-5.2007
ZeuS, Jeon Taekyu - $18,000 - 6.2006-5.2007

Estro
Tester[gm], Seo Kisoo - $28,000 - 10.2006-9.2007
Eliza, Cho Yongsung - $24,000 - 10.2006-9.2007
Cool[fOu], Kim Wonki - $24,000 - 10.2006-9.2007

Hanbit
GGPlay, Kim Joonyoung - $23,000 - 4.2006-3.2007
DaezanG[GnH], Park Daemahn - $18,000 - 4.2006-3.2007
Free[gm], Yoon Yongtae - $6,000 - 4.2006-3.2007

CuSToM
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1478 Posts
March 14 2011 07:22 GMT
#91
TSL is my favorite Star2 team and while I am happy for them I feel that they are one of the most under achieving GSL teams right now. So much talent and big names yet nothing to show for it since Cool won GSL#1.

Hopefully this will motivate them to return to beta / early retail form (Tester and Cool at least).
Team SCV Life #1
Chicane
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7875 Posts
March 14 2011 07:32 GMT
#92
I'm not sure why people are shrugging the money off. I don't think it is an incredible amount by any means, but at the same time this is a team that didn't make it to the finals and doesn't have any top level players (by that I mean the people considered to be one step ahead of the rest like MC, MVP etc.) FruitDealer had the first GSL win which was obviously major, but we likely won't be seeing another win from him... and Tester and Clide haven't been impressive with results either.

I am not bashing the team... they are still very good, and I don't want the focus to be on the players so much (though I felt it was worth mentioning), but all things aside... they are getting that money in addition to any winnings... PLUS their living and daily costs are already covered. I think some people don't appreciate the costs of day to day living. $30,000 of disposable cash a year is quite a lot. Keep in mind, the salaries will significantly increase when certain players establish themselves as the best.

As for the "80 hours a week" thing... they are playing a video game. I am NOT saying that it is not mentally straining, but at the same time many of them have a lot of fun with it. There are many jobs that people only work for 40 hours a week which are more stressful.

Sorry this post was poorly written... it's getting late, but I think I got my point across.
legatus legionis
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands559 Posts
March 14 2011 07:33 GMT
#93
Haha, funny how they didn't got paid before and just did it for the love. Now that they do get paid, a lot more than when they got nothing and when there is no industry standard whatsoever. Suddenly it's bad pay for the hour? Who says they are contracted to play that much anyway, maybe they just wanna do it themselves because they wanna be the best.

Another point is that they live in the teamhouse, and I think the rent and most of the daily food already gets supplied from the team. So your salary basically is savings and pocketmoney if you hit the town. Pretty much it is not comparable to a normal work situation salary, everyone would still be doing it if they didn't get paid salary (prize money not included ofc) so keep that in mind when you compare it.

Like other in this thread, I'm also confused because I was under the impression that there were more teams that gave some sort of salary (stipend?) to their players. Sometimes when a (western) player transfer occurs one of the main reasons they state in the interview for making the change is because it was better financially.

Also when I look at the picture Coach Lee looks like an absolute baller. He must've had a huge hand in making it happen, really cool.
HomicidaL
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States283 Posts
March 14 2011 07:40 GMT
#94
80 hours a week may seem like its alot for only making 31k. They got tourneys that pay and they are getting paid to play sc2! Alot of us prolly put 20 hours + a week and dont get paid a dime. I would play 80 hours a week if I was good and got paid. Its better then working 40 hours at a job i dont like and then putting 20 hours on sc2..lol
aliciakeyzz
Profile Joined February 2011
United States26 Posts
March 14 2011 07:40 GMT
#95
I do not believe that FD plays 80 hours a week.
no one no one no oooooone can get in the way of what i feel for you
GagnarTheUnruly
Profile Joined July 2010
United States655 Posts
March 14 2011 07:42 GMT
#96
Excellent. More money brings better players. Nice to see SC2 growing fast.
sharky246
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
1197 Posts
March 14 2011 07:44 GMT
#97
Afaik, it is up to the players how long they practiced. So i doubt that its 80 hours.
On January 03 2011 13:14 IdrA wrote: being high on the ladder doesnt get you any closer to your goal. Avoiding practice to protect your rating is absurd. If you want to be good go play 40 games a day and stop thinking about becoming a pro.
minimat
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Australia344 Posts
March 14 2011 07:47 GMT
#98
Is that Coach Lee from Hero? Also 31k is a lot for just playing SC2 as they don't pay rates.
Existential
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia2107 Posts
March 14 2011 07:50 GMT
#99
Oh wow, I thought they already got salaries.
Jaedong <3 | BW - The first game I ever loved
FubsyGamr
Profile Joined July 2010
United States212 Posts
March 14 2011 08:16 GMT
#100
So, this might seem like a silly question, but....if they weren't getting salaries before, how exactly did they support themselves? Were they really working 40 hours a week, full time, AND getting this good at SC2? I'm guessing they are not working other jobs, so how do they do it? Where did the money come from, before sponsors?
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