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dtz
Profile Joined September 2010
5834 Posts
March 14 2011 05:55 GMT
#21
at first when i read it i thought sponsoring tsl gave the sponsors a 60 percent increase in sales but then i guess it is too good to be true. lol

Still good news though! Hope more players get the money they deserve.
Enzyme
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Australia183 Posts
March 14 2011 05:55 GMT
#22
$30k isn't much, but it's better than $0. You can live off $30k, especially if you are in a team house which is basically all your rent and expenses. Especially where GSL is such a focal point, earning enough to make a viable living without winning is difficult. If other SC2 teams really aren't paying salaries, I am actually surprised at how many people have joined the SC2 scene in Korea.
Kazzabiss
Profile Joined December 2010
1006 Posts
March 14 2011 05:55 GMT
#23
On March 14 2011 14:41 nokz88 wrote:
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That's the old MBC Coach :O
also cool
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Pro]ChoSen-
Profile Joined December 2008
United States318 Posts
March 14 2011 05:56 GMT
#24
I thought there is tons of teams who play their players ^^
Nuri
Profile Joined May 2010
New Zealand280 Posts
March 14 2011 05:59 GMT
#25
On March 14 2011 14:45 aike wrote:
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On March 14 2011 14:43 Nuri wrote:
wow not bad getting 31k usd just to play sc2 per year


But considering it's like a 80+ hour a week job... is it really worth it?

And yea I do believe a lot of the major foreigner teams pay salaries.

80 hours a week? i change my mind then. lol
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Paradice
Profile Joined October 2010
New Zealand431 Posts
March 14 2011 05:59 GMT
#26
Hmm... I had just sort of assumed that the players on all the major teams would be given a salary. How do the progamers (on other teams) survive? Are they living off savings / parents / have a "real job" as well as playing? They can't all be winning tournaments all the time. Is it the same with the US teams?

This is a real surprise to me. Can someone explain how your average team progamer supports themselves?
kwaky
Profile Joined October 2010
Korea (South)94 Posts
March 14 2011 06:01 GMT
#27
Hmm TSL might not be the first team to give its players salaries, but I wonder how comparable the amounts are? Is there any other SC2 player who has a 31k salary? I'm curious now.. :d
godemperor
Profile Joined October 2010
Belgium2043 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-14 06:09:15
March 14 2011 06:02 GMT
#28
30k is actually a lot more than it sounds than an average job in US/EU for 2 reasons:
1. This is 30k of disposable income, since they live in a team house and do not need pay rent or mortgage. Housing cost usually take around a quarter to a third of the total income.
2. Cost of living is lower in korea than the West.
3. Assuming FD and Tester stays in code S, he could get at least another 10k. Not to mention prize form other tournaments.
So 30k could easy equal to a lot more.
Zeri
Profile Joined March 2010
United States773 Posts
March 14 2011 06:02 GMT
#29
30K is a ton if you are thinking about a guaranteed salary on top of all these tournaments that have more and more ENORMOUS prize pools. Yea, if you are looking strictly from a '80 hours a week omg thats not many dollars per hour!!!' standpoint, then I think you need to re-examine. It's not a 'job', its not something people do for the money. These guys started by getting nothing and just did what they love. Now they get to do the things they love everyday, all day. And get paid a handsome some now to do it. Good for them. Good for TSL.
You can think I'm wrong, but that's no reason to quit thinking.
peekn
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States1152 Posts
March 14 2011 06:02 GMT
#30
Alright, this is awesome! Always good to see teams being added to the group of other pro teams who get yearly salary.
bubblegumbo
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Taiwan1296 Posts
March 14 2011 06:03 GMT
#31
I am surprised at this is only happening now in Korea, of all place. SC2 really still has quite a long way to go.
"I honestly think that whoever invented toilet paper is a genius. For man to survive, they need toilet paper!"- Nal_rA
PatouPower
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada1119 Posts
March 14 2011 06:03 GMT
#32
On March 14 2011 14:45 aike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2011 14:43 Nuri wrote:
wow not bad getting 31k usd just to play sc2 per year


But considering it's like a 80+ hour a week job... is it really worth it?

And yea I do believe a lot of the major foreigner teams pay salaries.


31k, but this is without any tournament won. There are many tournaments, not only in korea but also in NA where these players are invited to go. Really, they can win something like 60-70k, and this is if they never finish first in all of these tournaments (there are minimum 12 per year in korea, don't know about the others). Plus, the 80+ hours of "work" is doing something you like, having fun with teammates, etc. I am sure they most be tired of it at the end, but they certainly enjoy a great part of it.

I wouldn't do it since I can stand to be forced to play, but I don't think they view it as work.
Earll
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Norway847 Posts
March 14 2011 06:05 GMT
#33
On March 14 2011 14:59 Paradice wrote:
Hmm... I had just sort of assumed that the players on all the major teams would be given a salary. How do the progamers (on other teams) survive? Are they living off savings / parents / have a "real job" as well as playing? They can't all be winning tournaments all the time. Is it the same with the US teams?

This is a real surprise to me. Can someone explain how your average team progamer supports themselves?


All/most of the people who are on teams in korea live in team houses and have most (or all I believe?) expenses covered, so if they wanted to they could live and have literally 0$ in expenses. Some of the American players are paid (I know E.G has said they pay some of their players.) but american players are not I guess so the people who are not are living as you said from savings / parents / have a "real job", That, together with some mix and match incomes like tournament winnings\coaching etc.
Wat
Char711
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States862 Posts
March 14 2011 06:08 GMT
#34
Always great to hear about things like this! Salaried players is a massive move for any team and I think it will be very important moving forward.

As some others have been saying, people have to keep some things in mind while looking at these numbers:
1) They are provided with housing and food; they're not paying for the "necessities" so this is basically disposable income.
2) This is without any tournament wins factored in. A number of players get over $50k a year with only tournament wins, so this makes it a pretty respectable salary (e.g., entering into upper management at a medium-sized company).
3) The eFame!
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namedplayer
Profile Joined June 2010
844 Posts
March 14 2011 06:08 GMT
#35
one question, where does '80 hours' come from?
You know what I'm talking about
Backpack
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1776 Posts
March 14 2011 06:08 GMT
#36
On March 14 2011 14:55 FXOpen wrote:
I've been paying my players a salary since December..... Gotta love media


Pretty sure liquid and EG also pay salaries...

No idea where this article is coming from
"You people need to just generally care a lot less about everything." -Zatic
feanor1
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1899 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-14 06:10:14
March 14 2011 06:09 GMT
#37
one question, where does '80 hours' come from?

Like most statistics, probably the top of someones head

31k is more than the average Korean makes, also when the majority of your living expenses are covered 31k is a lot of money. Most foreign players are payed a salary, at least when people are interviewed by magazines about how they earn a living they generally say coaching, team salary and tourney winnings. For fruitdealer by just staying in Code S ro32 he is easily looking at 40k per year.
Myles
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States5162 Posts
March 14 2011 06:09 GMT
#38
On March 14 2011 15:08 namedplayer wrote:
one question, where does '80 hours' come from?


10-12 hours everyday
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brxnd0n
Profile Joined September 2010
United States42 Posts
March 14 2011 06:11 GMT
#39
sigh... if only i were gosu.

<3 props to TSL huge accomplishment.
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blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
March 14 2011 06:11 GMT
#40
On March 14 2011 14:59 Nuri wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2011 14:45 aike wrote:
On March 14 2011 14:43 Nuri wrote:
wow not bad getting 31k usd just to play sc2 per year


But considering it's like a 80+ hour a week job... is it really worth it?

And yea I do believe a lot of the major foreigner teams pay salaries.

80 hours a week? i change my mind then. lol


Uh that was bw sc2 they probably do not play that much as they aren't forced to play THAT much.

Another thing to note that they are getting 30k playing a game they love and thats not bad at all thats better then alot of shitty jobs you can get that your working 40 hours a week and hating it.
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