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Ome
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada157 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-10 04:12:00
March 10 2011 04:11 GMT
#141
The GSL is great and I love watching Jinro, Huk, Haypro and others fight up the ranks, and the great play of all the competitors is a blast to watch. Honestly though even if there were no foreigners in the tournament and everyone sucked I'd still watch it for tastosis. And I pay for the premium stream.
GagnarTheUnruly
Profile Joined July 2010
United States655 Posts
March 10 2011 04:12 GMT
#142
On March 10 2011 13:04 Clare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2011 13:01 Zzoram wrote:
On March 10 2011 13:00 Clare wrote:
One thing I don't get is why are some people ONLY interested in watching the foreigners play? Even if the foreigners aren't as good as the Koreans, they will stop watching when they get knocked out. It makes no sense to me whatsoever... if the best players in the world are playing in the GSL, then I'll continue to watch.


It's the whiteness factor. Many white people want to watch white people win. People rarely admit it, but it's the truth. A lot of the Europeans have mangled English and boring interviews as well, but their whiteness makes them more interesting to many people than a superior Korean player.

So they kinda view it as a white vs Asian thing? That's weird.


I root for foreigners because they're the underdogs and are easier to relate to becuase they are closer to my age and culture. I feel like an outsider to the Korean SC scene so I root for the outsiders. Also, foreigners never ever had a chance in BW for the past decade or so. A lot of the big fans of foreigners remember having that feeling with BW. It's nice to see foreigners having a decent go and it feels like a wall has broken down.
Zzoram
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada7115 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-10 04:15:39
March 10 2011 04:13 GMT
#143
On March 10 2011 13:08 Saig0n wrote:
GSL is extremely entertaining, however I look forward to the NASL and MLG even more. I just love rooting for foreigners.


Oh I do too. I really like a lot of foreigners. I just don't fool myself into thinking they're the best in the world. Foreigners certainly stand a lot closer to top Koreans in SC2 than they did in BW, but that gap is only widening with time.

We keep hearing about foreigner training houses, but that's yet to happen and it really doesn't look like it ever seriously will. If it does, it'll be a temporary half-way house at best, not like a Korean pro-team house where they actually live together training for years instead of months.
templar rage
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2509 Posts
March 10 2011 04:13 GMT
#144
My interest dropped mildly this season with all the big names getting KOed early, but the games are still good, and that's all I really care about. I pretty much lost interest in non-foreign Code A games last season, but this season is so much better.
HolyArrow
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7116 Posts
March 10 2011 04:14 GMT
#145
GSL is my top priority. I see no reason to settle for anything less than the highest level of play. I couldn't care less if there were foreigners or not. I just want to see the most skilled players duke it out. I'll probably get some flak for saying this, but it confuses me when people are only interested in the GSL for the foreigners. Do you not care at all about the actual play itself, only about your favorite "foreign" players (which I find mildly annoying since it implies discrimination against Koreans IMO. Do you like your "foreign" players just because they are "foreign"? What happened to enjoying the game itself?) I've seen so many people complain after a foreigner got eliminated from the GSL time and time again that "there's no reason to continue watching". Ugh.
jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
March 10 2011 04:15 GMT
#146
On March 10 2011 13:01 Zzoram wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2011 13:00 Clare wrote:
One thing I don't get is why are some people ONLY interested in watching the foreigners play? Even if the foreigners aren't as good as the Koreans, they will stop watching when they get knocked out. It makes no sense to me whatsoever... if the best players in the world are playing in the GSL, then I'll continue to watch.


It's the whiteness factor. Many white people want to watch white people win. People rarely admit it, but it's the truth. A lot of the Europeans have mangled English and boring interviews as well, but their whiteness makes them more interesting to many people than a superior Korean player.


Don't BS please, lots of foreigners are of asian descent. It's the fact that we know them from small tournaments that Koreans don't know about, streams, and forum posts, much like Korean fans know the lesser-known Koreans.

Cella is much more widely known than most Koreans of his skill level because he streams, Select isn't white but he's as well or more well known to foreigners than a lot of white players. Using the race card is just so wrong here.
Tenks
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3104 Posts
March 10 2011 04:16 GMT
#147
I like watching the best players play SC2.

GSL has the best players.

Therefore, I care most about the GSL.
Wat
Zzoram
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada7115 Posts
March 10 2011 04:18 GMT
#148
On March 10 2011 13:15 jalstar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2011 13:01 Zzoram wrote:
On March 10 2011 13:00 Clare wrote:
One thing I don't get is why are some people ONLY interested in watching the foreigners play? Even if the foreigners aren't as good as the Koreans, they will stop watching when they get knocked out. It makes no sense to me whatsoever... if the best players in the world are playing in the GSL, then I'll continue to watch.


It's the whiteness factor. Many white people want to watch white people win. People rarely admit it, but it's the truth. A lot of the Europeans have mangled English and boring interviews as well, but their whiteness makes them more interesting to many people than a superior Korean player.


Don't BS please, lots of foreigners are of asian descent. It's the fact that we know them from small tournaments that Koreans don't know about, streams, and forum posts, much like Korean fans know the lesser-known Koreans.

Cella is much more widely known than most Koreans of his skill level because he streams, Select isn't white but he's as well or more well known to foreigners than a lot of white players. Using the race card is just so wrong here.


I'm not saying it's the only factor, but it's definitely a really big one that people aren't willing to admit. Select doesn't get half the attention that he should, everyone was shitting on his play despite making it to the MLG finals having to play more matches than anyone else at that tournament.

Even in the coverage of GSL qualifiers, Incontrol gets a ton of screen time but Select, who is likely a much better foreigner player, gets almost nothing. Plus when you hear people talk about foreigners in GSL, they always forget guys like Sen and Loner. Why do you think that is?
SwiftSpear
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada355 Posts
March 10 2011 04:18 GMT
#149
On March 10 2011 11:51 GhostFall wrote:
code A im losing interesting in.
code S still high

Code A was awesome this season. There are utter beasts in Code A.
albis
Profile Joined January 2010
United States652 Posts
March 10 2011 04:19 GMT
#150
i lost a little bit of interest when they changed it to code:A/S. just seperates players and makes it harder to follow. i understand the need for 2 divisions, but i dont like it.
every punch is thrown with bad intentions with the speed of a devil
Tachion
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada8573 Posts
March 10 2011 04:19 GMT
#151
My interest in the GSL season depends entirely on who is still in it. This season has probably attracted the lowest interest from me yet because of the Ro32. It's the same for a lot of the BW people, where everyone goes up in arms and thinks it's the end of BW when Flash and JD and Bisu get eliminated prematurely. For me those players like Nestea MVP Boxer etc all went out in the first round and it was like.....well...fuck
i was driving down the road this november eve and spotted a hitchhiker walking down the street. i pulled over and saw that it was only a tree. i uprooted it and put it in my trunk. do trees like marshmallow peeps? cause that's all i have and will have.
ComTrav
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1093 Posts
March 10 2011 04:19 GMT
#152
Tastosis is still the best casting team, almost worth buying premium tickets for that alone.

Code A I don't know though. Both seasons they've had some good games, but the last few rounds have been really disappointing. It's almost like the players stop caring once they get tot he up-and-down matches.
HolyArrow
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7116 Posts
March 10 2011 04:20 GMT
#153
On March 10 2011 13:18 Zzoram wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2011 13:15 jalstar wrote:
On March 10 2011 13:01 Zzoram wrote:
On March 10 2011 13:00 Clare wrote:
One thing I don't get is why are some people ONLY interested in watching the foreigners play? Even if the foreigners aren't as good as the Koreans, they will stop watching when they get knocked out. It makes no sense to me whatsoever... if the best players in the world are playing in the GSL, then I'll continue to watch.


It's the whiteness factor. Many white people want to watch white people win. People rarely admit it, but it's the truth. A lot of the Europeans have mangled English and boring interviews as well, but their whiteness makes them more interesting to many people than a superior Korean player.


Don't BS please, lots of foreigners are of asian descent. It's the fact that we know them from small tournaments that Koreans don't know about, streams, and forum posts, much like Korean fans know the lesser-known Koreans.

Cella is much more widely known than most Koreans of his skill level because he streams, Select isn't white but he's as well or more well known to foreigners than a lot of white players. Using the race card is just so wrong here.


I'm not saying it's the only factor, but it's definitely a really big one that people aren't willing to admit. Select doesn't get half the attention that he should, everyone was shitting on his play despite making it to the MLG finals having to play more matches than anyone else at that tournament.

Even in the coverage of GSL qualifiers, Incontrol gets a ton of screen time but Select, who is likely a much better foreigner player, gets almost nothing. Plus when you hear people talk about foreigners in GSL, they always forget guys like Sen and Loner. Why do you think that is?


I feel like you are definitely hitting some piece of an uncomfortable truth around here. Indeed, I've complained in the past about people forgetting players like Sen and Loner when talking about foreigners. It's pretty annoying.
Gryffes
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United Kingdom763 Posts
March 10 2011 04:21 GMT
#154
More interest over time as the level of play has got higher.

GTL was great though, would love to see a shift to a team format.
www.youtube.com/gryffes - Random Gaming Videos.
Twiggs
Profile Joined January 2011
United States600 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-10 04:22:48
March 10 2011 04:22 GMT
#155
Yes, I stopped caring when less and less foreigners showed up for it. Also Idk the quality of the game have gotten better however there are still pretty serious disappointing match ups every now and then and It gets annoying when bad players still get into code S

^^^ Yeah GSTL was amazing, bring that back!
My life for Auir | FLASH . JD . BISU . HERO . Nony . Incontrol . FIGHTING
.Aar
Profile Joined September 2010
2177 Posts
March 10 2011 04:22 GMT
#156
I feel like Code A is a huge waste. Why would I want to watch players who I know are inferior?

Maybe if the players in Code A had a bit more personality to make up for it, but..
now run into the setting sun, and suffer, but don't mess up your hair.
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
March 10 2011 04:25 GMT
#157
I haven't been watching sc2 for a long time. I have never seen a single good game, and I dont ever expect to. Still watch BW though.
badwater
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada77 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-10 04:26:55
March 10 2011 04:25 GMT
#158
I love GSL and with foreigners fighting in it, it's even more interesting. Jinro is out and Huk is out till the up and down, but I still watch it. I used to watch BW so much that I just love the Korean scene. As for Code A, well this season is a bit harder to watch. I pretty much watched every game in all 5 GSL, but this Code A I've been skipping quite a few. I'll tune in to the finals tho, that's for sure.

Also, Tastosis can sometime add so much to a game. The players make the game, sure, but sometimes the caster can give out something quite entertaining.

Zzoram
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada7115 Posts
March 10 2011 04:27 GMT
#159
Tastosis is definitely great. I like how Tasteless makes awful jokes and Artosis knows so much about the game.
sOvrn
Profile Joined April 2010
United States678 Posts
March 10 2011 04:27 GMT
#160
GSL is still tops for me. I'm excited to see the development of the NASL in particular, but few things interest me other than that in the foreigner scene.

It's just the Koreans play for a freaking living and 24/7 at that! They are all about perfecting their starcraft skills - which is just so impressive and that's why I check it out.
My favorites: Terran - Maru // Protoss - SoS // Zerg - soO ~~~ fighting!
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