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GagnarTheUnruly
Profile Joined July 2010
United States655 Posts
March 10 2011 03:43 GMT
#101
On March 10 2011 12:37 Zzoram wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2011 12:33 GagnarTheUnruly wrote:
On March 10 2011 12:12 Zzoram wrote:
I really don't get the criticism of Korean play. They play to win, as any professional should. Sometimes that means a protracted macro game, sometimes that means a timing push that ends the game at 10 minutes, sometimes it means an all-in because of a greedy opponent. They just do what is best in the situation. This sometimes results in the same build several times in a row, or a highly varied Bo5 where we never see the same build twice.

I'm attracted to players who prove themselves the most skilled, I don't care what colour skin they have or what language they speak. A lot of foreigners talk tough, let's see them prove themselves in TSL3 and any other major tournament where they have to face solid Koreans.


I can't speak for other people, but I think it's because there has been a surprising lack of solid play in the GSLs, particularly in the <ro8 in both the S and A class.

The stereotypical foreign approach seems to be to try to bring the game more or less into the lategame and win with macro. But in the GSL, especially early seasons, there are a lot of all-in moves, and there were a lot of games where players would just trade heavy blows with one another and see who comes out standing. Like how drunk cowboys fight in movies -- not a lot of finesse. Things seem to have gotten better, though, IMO.


Foreigners all playing greedy doesn't mean they play more solid. Knowing when to all-in to punish greed is part of solid play.


Agreed. It's just that a lot of the play in the GSL hasn't been solid -- it's been agressive to a fault. The people who complain about Korean play probably prefer when players err on the side of greedy.
skrzmark
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1528 Posts
March 10 2011 03:44 GMT
#102
On March 10 2011 12:32 Meta wrote:

I'm not saying the skill difference between Koreans and foreigners is small, but Huk did make it farther than Ace in code A so I think that's a bad example.

The recent IEM results certainly are convincing, but they're not remarkable as the Korean structure of e-sports simply builds the best players. The money is there, the housing is there, all they have to focus on in life is being the best.



Yes HuK made it further than Ace but if HuK vs. Ace, Ace would probably win. Your statement about HuK getting further meaning he's better than Ace is invalid. Ace actually qualified for GSL while HuK never did. But I do like HuK one of my favorite foreigners, and I hope he stays awhile.


You might say Ace qualified in the easier GSL (GSL 2). WRONG he also qualified for this season too! After getting knocked out last season by TOP, which this is the far most hardest GSL to qualify in.
We got them GOM TvT's and them mlGG's
zyglrox
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1168 Posts
March 10 2011 03:44 GMT
#103
only ever watched code A for protoss/foreigners. code s still delivers as much as it ever had, and tastosis makes it even better.

however, i'm a pretty diehard sc2 watcher, so whenever there is a chance for good games i'm going to watch. whether that's GSL, NASL, IEM, GCPL, even a craftcup final if somebody i enjoy watching is playing that's all that matters really. GSL just has constant quality content so that gets the most of my time.
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KevinIX
Profile Joined October 2009
United States2472 Posts
March 10 2011 03:45 GMT
#104
GSL will be my top priority until MLG and NASL start rolling out. Then, I don't know. It will depend on their production quality and player quality. Hopefully we'll see good games there, and American tournaments become a big deal.
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gosuRob
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States319 Posts
March 10 2011 03:45 GMT
#105
Should make an option for interest going up by the season, as that is the case for me and my friends.
Rooting for MC and Huk <33333
Rules? There aren't many rules. You fight mean, you win mean. It takes a certain someone
Alver
Profile Joined November 2010
United States177 Posts
March 10 2011 03:46 GMT
#106
honestly it sounds like code a is getting kinda shit on relative to their skill level. casting isint as good as code s and it sucks alot of the code a players arent well known but each season the games are dramatically better. i wouldent be surprised if next season 75% of the code a players could get 1st at a non korean tournament as long as there arent other koreans better than them there.

i try to watch every eu/na tournament with a prize over $5k and i never feel i learn that much compared to gsl games. if i am impressed theres probably players who trained in korea involved(winning).
Zzoram
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada7115 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-10 03:48:10
March 10 2011 03:46 GMT
#107
On March 10 2011 12:45 RobbybabyDTF wrote:
Should make an option for interest going up by the season, as that is the case for me and my friends.
Rooting for MC and Huk <33333


Sorry to break it to you but Huk lost a few days ago.

I like Huk too, but he played pretty poorly when he lost. Particularly the + Show Spoiler +
shitty cannon all-in where he spent 550 minerals on nothing.
Pudge_172
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1378 Posts
March 10 2011 03:47 GMT
#108
On March 10 2011 11:58 Grobyc wrote:
Needs a "Yes, but never had a premium ticket in the first place" poll option.


This.


I haven't watched nearly as much of this season as I have in the past. Getting up at 4AM to watch live finally caught up to me this season.

All the upsets should have made for a more interesting season, but instead it zapped my interest level. Also, with no Idra and Jinro falling early and Huk being Huk, I just don't have a "local" guy to root for.

Really looking forward to MLG Dallas and the start of NASL.

Not that interested in the upcoming GSL "World Championship". Hopefully GSL May will peak my interest.
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Nephrite
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia202 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-10 04:02:55
March 10 2011 03:47 GMT
#109
No, probably the opposite, Im loving GSL right now. And also super exicted for the TSL, look at the lineup!

EDIT: Too add to this, in Australia the GSL times are perfect, like 8.00pm most nights
T: MVP, Polt, MKP, Boxer... P: Hero, MC, Inca , VINES... Z: Coca, DRG, Zenio, Leenock
rickybobby
Profile Joined October 2010
United States405 Posts
March 10 2011 03:49 GMT
#110
my interest is 70% best players in the world 30% tastosis so gsl is still the best
Onlinejaguar
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia2823 Posts
March 10 2011 03:51 GMT
#111
GSL is still the most exciting tourney to me, the production values, great players plus Tastosis make it the SC2 tournament of choice for me.
skrzmark
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1528 Posts
March 10 2011 03:51 GMT
#112
On March 10 2011 12:46 Zzoram wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2011 12:45 RobbybabyDTF wrote:
Should make an option for interest going up by the season, as that is the case for me and my friends.
Rooting for MC and Huk <33333


Sorry to break it to you but Huk lost a few days ago.

I like Huk too, but he played pretty poorly when he lost. Particularly the + Show Spoiler +
shitty cannon all-in where he spent 550 minerals on nothing.



Up and Down matches he has to play still don't worry chum
We got them GOM TvT's and them mlGG's
tyrless
Profile Joined July 2010
United States485 Posts
March 10 2011 03:51 GMT
#113
GSL is still the only SC2 production that I will pay for every time hands down, so much better than anything "premium" that IEM/MLG/Assembly etc has done

Tastosis+best players in the world+production value=mega win
nexitustl1
Profile Joined December 2010
156 Posts
March 10 2011 03:54 GMT
#114
for me currently as a casual player but avid watcher of anything i can get my hands on sc2 related GSL is my top priority. Other events would grab my interest but their organization and presentation of their content detours me. One for example would be the IEM, luckily TeamLiquid threads keep me up to date with whats happening and informed of the results but their site and how they have countless streams and weird times/delays totally turn me off. I love how with GOMtv they have the production quality good schedule and great site delivering direct common sense content so untill then they will always be my #1. I currently have big hopes tho for the NASL if they can deliver good consistent well planned out content they will have my money every time.
NeonPeon
Profile Joined February 2011
93 Posts
March 10 2011 03:54 GMT
#115
Code A was very disappointing today, but thus far has featured much better play than in previous seasons, and some more varied builds.

Code S has been brilliant and unpredictable this season, with some Zerg play that has really challenged the orthodoxy, and been really engaging If you didn't enjoy July v Nada, there's no hope for you. The new maps have changed things for the better in a big way as well, and I think that has really shaken things up at the top.

While the idea of the game progressing in the west is attractive to me, I still want to watch the highest level of play, and I think it would be a massive result if the other competitions almost functioned as feeder leagues in the same way that the lesser football leagues do for the premiership, la liga etc.

I really believe the GSL will continue to develop, there's nothing like it in terms of production and quality, and there's no reason to think that will change in the near future. The game is still quite young, and no one has really emerged as a super dominant force as of yet, because the meta game is so fluid, and the map pool has changed so significantly. I think as certain players develop a history and defining play style, the human aspects of the game can become more relevant as they were with Brood War spectating.

The GSL season ticket is a fantastic value, as far as I'm concerned.
cha0
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada509 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-10 03:56:07
March 10 2011 03:54 GMT
#116
Higher than ever for me. Although still doesn't match my much greater interest in SWL, MSL and OSL.
Louuster
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada2869 Posts
March 10 2011 03:56 GMT
#117
Tushin is back on top, so GSL is my priority for now.
However, that might change once TSL starts, depending on how well the foreigners do against the koreans. If it becomes BW WCG, then it reduces to another chance to watch the top korean pros play, which is never bad but at the same time not as interesting from a competitive point of view.
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Zzoram
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada7115 Posts
March 10 2011 03:56 GMT
#118
On March 10 2011 12:51 skrzmark wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2011 12:46 Zzoram wrote:
On March 10 2011 12:45 RobbybabyDTF wrote:
Should make an option for interest going up by the season, as that is the case for me and my friends.
Rooting for MC and Huk <33333


Sorry to break it to you but Huk lost a few days ago.

I like Huk too, but he played pretty poorly when he lost. Particularly the + Show Spoiler +
shitty cannon all-in where he spent 550 minerals on nothing.



Up and Down matches he has to play still don't worry chum


Who is going to be in his bracket?
jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
March 10 2011 03:56 GMT
#119
Not buying premium any more since I still watch BW and I don't want to support a company shutting down BW streams.
JerKy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)3013 Posts
March 10 2011 03:56 GMT
#120
I honestly really love the GSL, but I have trouble staying up so often to watch the whole thing
Not everyone has the luxury of being able to stay up all night to watch all of Code S (or even code A for that matter) whenever its live, and for me personally, watching VODs just isn't the same as watching it love
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