EPTCode S= Always fun to watch even as hit gets close and closer to the finals
I Glad to see all these new tournaments coming gives me more to watch.
Is your interest in GSL lowering? - Page 5
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Trepanation
United States111 Posts
Code S= Always fun to watch even as hit gets close and closer to the finals I Glad to see all these new tournaments coming gives me more to watch. | ||
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dLKnighT
Canada735 Posts
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relyt
United States1073 Posts
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Cyber_Cheese
Australia3615 Posts
On March 10 2011 11:58 Grobyc wrote: Needs a "Yes, but never had a premium ticket in the first place" poll option. eh if you never had a premium ticket in the first place your opinion inn the poll doesnt really mean much imo this is for people who liked the gsl in the first place | ||
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hmunkey
United Kingdom1973 Posts
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skrzmark
United States1528 Posts
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Meta
United States6228 Posts
On March 10 2011 12:22 Zzoram wrote: If that was true, why did mediocre GSL Code A drop out Ace 10-0 his way through the top foreigners at IEM? Why did top foreigners like Huk and Ret bomb out at GSL Code A despite impressive performances in foreigner tournaments? I'm not saying the skill difference between Koreans and foreigners is small, but Huk did make it farther than Ace in code A so I think that's a bad example. The recent IEM results certainly are convincing, but they're not remarkable as the Korean structure of e-sports simply builds the best players. The money is there, the housing is there, all they have to focus on in life is being the best. That system simply isn't there for any place outside of Korea. Yet. With the multitudes of large tournaments in the west and the growth of e-sports teams, specifically with regard to money alone, we're going to build a system to mimic theirs and hopefully get world-class foreigners. The NASL, the TSL, MLG, IEM, and Dreamhack will all contribute to this future of esports, and this is just the beginning. Judging by some of the posts in this thread it legitimately sounds like people think Koreans are genetically modified to be winning machines in RTS games. I wouldn't be surprised if the results at IEM aren't indicative of future tournaments, if only because of the increasing popularity of e-sports outside of Korea. That said, for now I don't blame anybody for ignoring other tournaments to focus on the GSL. I'll probably be doing the same. But if any one of those tournaments produce games that are even remotely close to the skill level / entertainment value of the GSL code S matches, AND if they release the games for free, I can see my future self following the GSL only in the battle reports in the news post, and I bet a lot of people will follow suit. On March 10 2011 12:31 Cyber_Cheese wrote: eh if you never had a premium ticket in the first place your opinion inn the poll doesnt really mean much imo this is for people who liked the gsl in the first place Just because people don't buy tickets, that doesn't mean they don't like the GSL. I stay up and watch the GSL matches whenever possible and have never bought a ticket. As a fan of ESPORTS and especially as a veteran of this community I like to think Grobyc's opinion matters just as much as anybody else in this thread. | ||
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FortuneSyn
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GagnarTheUnruly
United States655 Posts
On March 10 2011 12:12 Zzoram wrote: I really don't get the criticism of Korean play. They play to win, as any professional should. Sometimes that means a protracted macro game, sometimes that means a timing push that ends the game at 10 minutes, sometimes it means an all-in because of a greedy opponent. They just do what is best in the situation. This sometimes results in the same build several times in a row, or a highly varied Bo5 where we never see the same build twice. I'm attracted to players who prove themselves the most skilled, I don't care what colour skin they have or what language they speak. A lot of foreigners talk tough, let's see them prove themselves in TSL3 and any other major tournament where they have to face solid Koreans. I can't speak for other people, but I think it's because there has been a surprising lack of solid play in the GSLs, particularly in the <ro8 in both the S and A class. The stereotypical foreign approach seems to be to try to bring the game more or less into the lategame and win with macro. But in the GSL, especially early seasons, there are a lot of all-in moves, and there were a lot of games where players would just trade heavy blows with one another and see who comes out standing. Like how drunk cowboys fight in movies -- not a lot of finesse. Things seem to have gotten better, though, IMO. | ||
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biskit
Australia355 Posts
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setzer
United States3284 Posts
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kvn4444
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Irave
United States9965 Posts
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Zzoram
Canada7115 Posts
On March 10 2011 12:33 GagnarTheUnruly wrote: I can't speak for other people, but I think it's because there has been a surprising lack of solid play in the GSLs, particularly in the <ro8 in both the S and A class. The stereotypical foreign approach seems to be to try to bring the game more or less into the lategame and win with macro. But in the GSL, especially early seasons, there are a lot of all-in moves, and there were a lot of games where players would just trade heavy blows with one another and see who comes out standing. Like how drunk cowboys fight in movies -- not a lot of finesse. Things seem to have gotten better, though, IMO. Foreigners all playing greedy doesn't mean they play more solid. Knowing when to all-in to punish greed is part of solid play. | ||
tree.hugger
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
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Consolidate
United States829 Posts
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Clicker
United States1012 Posts
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Zzoram
Canada7115 Posts
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Drxz
Australia115 Posts
Maybe its the casting, maybe its the quality. However I will say I do not watch every game because it would just take up too much of my day, I work from 730 ish till 5-530 every day so I do not get alot of free time, so I will pick and choose my games based on the players in them I will pick 1 player from each group to follow and when they get knocked out I stop watching that group unless they all get knocked out then I will pick a new "round" of guys. Currently I only have July and Losira left to watch (I prefer watching zerg play). I used to watch every match but I found I did not have enough time for the rest of my life outside of work and GSL. (Probably the same reason Tastosis stopped casting Code A) | ||
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ke_ivan
Singapore374 Posts
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