I am still interested in the GSL since it started, but because of the time different I haven't watched a lot of games. The only way that I follow the league is by checking scores when I wake up the next morning.

Cyanocyst

2222 Posts

March 10 2011 03:05 GMT

#43

Nope GSL is still what i care about most. If NASL, ESL, TSL, MLG, Dream Hack can bridge my thirst for competitive Sc2 play from Gsl to Gsl. Then its serving me to its fullest capacity.

Also idk why some many people are against Code A. It was a lot more painful to watch last season. I would argue that much of the code A matches have been more entertaining that the Code S ones.

Besides MC i feel most the players remaining in Code S got their by their opponent playing poorly more so than, themselves playing greatly. Code S has been quite underwhelming actually.

Cent

Canada155 Posts

March 10 2011 03:05 GMT

#44

MVP and MC are the best. And they both play in GSL. Guess what I'm going to watch.

I'd watch Code A too if Kelly wasn't screwing it up. Can't stand her nasal voice, but would welcome any other talented caster.

baoluvboa

743 Posts

March 10 2011 03:06 GMT

#45

On March 10 2011 12:02 Baarn wrote:

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So you're already judging something you haven't seen yet? Awesome!

This isn't really up for debate anymore. The difference in skill level due to cultural beliefs resulting in Korean being ahead of NA/Europe shouldn't come as a surprise anymore. I have played/watched NA pros and I know I can catch up with them if I play more games but impossible to do the same versus the Koreans.

BenKen

United States860 Posts

March 10 2011 03:06 GMT

#46

I'm sticking with the GSL until the NASL or something else can give me a reason not too. I spend hours watching the VODs and I still can't keep up. I still find the Korean players more skilled and more exciting to watch than their Foreign counterparts, The Korean strategies seem to (generally) set the pace for the foreign scene.

Ask me again in a year, when NASL or MLG has had a fair shot at it, but as of right now I don't see anything from them that will make me watch less GSL. I'll catch the foreigners if GSL isn't on, it's clearly a big match or something comes highly recommended, but that's about it.

Bosu

United States3247 Posts

March 10 2011 03:07 GMT

#47

With so few foreigners doing well I am definitely losing interest. I think when the NASL starts up I will likely watch a lot more of that. I prefer watching players that interact more with the community. However, I still love the casting archon better then any other casters so I may still subscribe to GSL for them.

DirtYLOu

575 Posts

March 10 2011 03:07 GMT

#48

I think that GOMTV's priority should be GSTL, not GSL. GSTL is such more entertaining and all that drama would do only better in SC2...

Meta

United States6225 Posts

March 10 2011 03:08 GMT

#49

On March 10 2011 12:00 baoluvboa wrote:

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Where can I find someone so oblivious to the current skill level disparity of the game? Oh wait...

Where can I find someone who dismisses something before it starts, without even knowing who is participating? Xeris just posted that there WILL be Koreans in the NASL.

But they'll play terrible right? Because it's not the GSL? Because you don't have to pay for it? Because they don't have a similar prize pool (oh wait)? Because it will be top players from all over the world instead of just top Koreans?

Maybe the Koreans are more skilled right now, but give pros stateside such a large monetary reason to be the best that they can physically be, and I bet they'll catch up immediately.

Anyway, I agree with Grobyc. Where's the "Yes but I never bought any tickets in the first place." option?

baoluvboa

743 Posts

March 10 2011 03:08 GMT

#50

On March 10 2011 12:07 DirtYLOu wrote:
I think that GOMTV's priority should be GSTL, not GSL. GSTL is such more entertaining and all that drama would do only better in SC2...

Indeed, A SC2 Proleague would be so amazing.

Zzoram

Canada7115 Posts

March 10 2011 03:09 GMT

#51

I'll watch TSL3, but the matches I'm most excited to watch are the ones with the Koreans in them. TSL3, with all the excellent foreigners both known and unknown qualifiers, is perhaps the best opportunity for foreigners to prove that they can play on par with the top Koreans. I don't think they stand a chance, but who knows with latency.

Svartstol

Sweden171 Posts

March 10 2011 03:09 GMT

#52

I feel that with the upcoming NASL and MLG I do feel more drawn to that,

The reason for this is that the western pro scene feels more like 'home' in a sense, By now we all have our favourite streamer who we will be rooting for at MLG and it adds a bit more of a personal bit to it as opposed to the korean pro scene.

In my opinion GSL is a bit more stiff and really has no room crazy stuff to happen (not that i've seen anyway)

Bosu said something that hit the marker to; "I prefer watching players that interact more with the community."- I agree!

rysecake

United States2632 Posts

March 10 2011 03:11 GMT

#53

On March 10 2011 11:54 Durn wrote:

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I can respect that. My main thing is that my favorite players are sort of displacing themselves amongst the foreigner scene rather than trying so hard to get to GSL. I guess I am more loyal to the players than to the actual play itself, which is sort of weird to say.

I get attached to players as well, which is why you will probably find rage posts from me when people like Mvp lose. I'm happy that the foreigner scene is expanding but for me, incredible play is a primary attraction, and watching games by Mvp, MC, etc. are what give me that exhilarating feeling. So yea, I actually follow the players more than the play itself so to speak, it's just that my favorite players are korean haha

Zzoram

Canada7115 Posts

March 10 2011 03:12 GMT

#54

I really don't get the criticism of Korean play. They play to win, as any professional should. Sometimes that means a protracted macro game, sometimes that means a timing push that ends the game at 10 minutes, sometimes it means an all-in because of a greedy opponent. They just do what is best in the situation. This sometimes results in the same build several times in a row, or a highly varied Bo5 where we never see the same build twice.

I'm attracted to players who prove themselves the most skilled, I don't care what colour skin they have or what language they speak. A lot of foreigners talk tough, let's see them prove themselves in TSL3 and any other major tournament where they have to face solid Koreans.

darmousseh

United States3437 Posts

March 10 2011 03:13 GMT

#55

Actually my interest has gotten higher since the players are playing significantly better.

Maynarde

Australia1286 Posts

March 10 2011 03:13 GMT

#56

I will follow Tastosis and the best players in the world wherever they go. GSL definitely still the one for me, although I will follow as many other leagues as possible. Very excited about NASL and TSL in particular.

Alver

United States177 Posts

March 10 2011 03:14 GMT

#57

the tournament with the best players is the most important one to watch imo, secondary priority being best casters. currently gsl has both and i wouldent stop paying for gsl to pay for something else unless it had allready finished a season with gsl level quality.

i certainly wouldent mind seeing more foreigners, especially north american players doing well in tournaments but id rather watch the highest level of play. also while i dont mind watching games cast from replays seeing the players in the studio is pretty nice.

also for me nasl will be watchable pretty easily without paying, 2 streams a day with better quality than goms paid stream sounds nice.

Cyanocyst

2222 Posts

March 10 2011 03:14 GMT

#58

On March 10 2011 12:08 baoluvboa wrote:

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Indeed, A SC2 Proleague would be so amazing.

Personally i would like a longer more drawn out version of GSTL. However i disagree with it being GoM's main focus.

Cyanocyst

2222 Posts

March 10 2011 03:15 GMT

#59

On March 10 2011 12:05 Cent wrote:
MVP and MC are the best. And they both play in GSL. Guess what I'm going to watch.

I'd watch Code A too if Kelly wasn't screwing it up. Can't stand her NASAL voice, but would welcome any other talented caster.

Well no wonder your picking GSL over NASL.

Space Invader

Australia291 Posts

March 10 2011 03:15 GMT

#60

The problem for me is that I struggle to enjoy watching a competitive tournament like MLG if I know it's actually just not all the best players in the world. It's like, yeah he won MLG, but what does that even mean? He's the best of the worst? It just doesn't seem properly competitive at that point and I lose interest. Not completely, obviously I'll still enjoy watching some of my favourite players, but the attraction of GSL is knowing that these are absolutely THE BEST players out there, and this one guy beat them all out for the crown and a life-changing amount of money.

Also Toastasis casts the GSL and I doubt there will be such a dynamic duo for a very long long time. I actually just love watching those guys so much, they could be reporting the weather and I'd still be doing barrel rolls about it.