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zerious
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada3803 Posts
March 10 2011 03:04 GMT
#41
Tastosis + Highest level of play = win
zoLo
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States5896 Posts
March 10 2011 03:05 GMT
#42
I am still interested in the GSL since it started, but because of the time different I haven't watched a lot of games. The only way that I follow the league is by checking scores when I wake up the next morning.
Cyanocyst
Profile Joined October 2010
2222 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-10 03:07:07
March 10 2011 03:05 GMT
#43
Nope GSL is still what i care about most. If NASL, ESL, TSL, MLG, Dream Hack can bridge my thirst for competitive Sc2 play from Gsl to Gsl. Then its serving me to its fullest capacity.

Also idk why some many people are against Code A. It was a lot more painful to watch last season. I would argue that much of the code A matches have been more entertaining that the Code S ones.

Besides MC i feel most the players remaining in Code S got their by their opponent playing poorly more so than, themselves playing greatly. Code S has been quite underwhelming actually.
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Cent
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada155 Posts
March 10 2011 03:05 GMT
#44
MVP and MC are the best. And they both play in GSL. Guess what I'm going to watch.

I'd watch Code A too if Kelly wasn't screwing it up. Can't stand her nasal voice, but would welcome any other talented caster.
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baoluvboa
Profile Joined December 2010
743 Posts
March 10 2011 03:06 GMT
#45
On March 10 2011 12:02 Baarn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2011 12:00 baoluvboa wrote:
On March 10 2011 11:58 Kazzabiss wrote:
On March 10 2011 11:54 baoluvboa wrote:
By watching the terrible play in NASL in comparison to GSL, it would only increase my interest.

Where can we find these NASL games you're watching?


Where can I find someone so oblivious to the current skill level disparity of the game? Oh wait...


So you're already judging something you haven't seen yet? Awesome!


This isn't really up for debate anymore. The difference in skill level due to cultural beliefs resulting in Korean being ahead of NA/Europe shouldn't come as a surprise anymore. I have played/watched NA pros and I know I can catch up with them if I play more games but impossible to do the same versus the Koreans.

BenKen
Profile Joined August 2009
United States860 Posts
March 10 2011 03:06 GMT
#46
I'm sticking with the GSL until the NASL or something else can give me a reason not too. I spend hours watching the VODs and I still can't keep up. I still find the Korean players more skilled and more exciting to watch than their Foreign counterparts, The Korean strategies seem to (generally) set the pace for the foreign scene.

Ask me again in a year, when NASL or MLG has had a fair shot at it, but as of right now I don't see anything from them that will make me watch less GSL. I'll catch the foreigners if GSL isn't on, it's clearly a big match or something comes highly recommended, but that's about it.
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Bosu
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3247 Posts
March 10 2011 03:07 GMT
#47
With so few foreigners doing well I am definitely losing interest. I think when the NASL starts up I will likely watch a lot more of that. I prefer watching players that interact more with the community. However, I still love the casting archon better then any other casters so I may still subscribe to GSL for them.
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DirtYLOu
Profile Joined May 2010
575 Posts
March 10 2011 03:07 GMT
#48
I think that GOMTV's priority should be GSTL, not GSL. GSTL is such more entertaining and all that drama would do only better in SC2...
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Meta
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States6225 Posts
March 10 2011 03:08 GMT
#49
On March 10 2011 12:00 baoluvboa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2011 11:58 Kazzabiss wrote:
On March 10 2011 11:54 baoluvboa wrote:
By watching the terrible play in NASL in comparison to GSL, it would only increase my interest.

Where can we find these NASL games you're watching?


Where can I find someone so oblivious to the current skill level disparity of the game? Oh wait...


Where can I find someone who dismisses something before it starts, without even knowing who is participating? Xeris just posted that there WILL be Koreans in the NASL.

But they'll play terrible right? Because it's not the GSL? Because you don't have to pay for it? Because they don't have a similar prize pool (oh wait)? Because it will be top players from all over the world instead of just top Koreans?

Maybe the Koreans are more skilled right now, but give pros stateside such a large monetary reason to be the best that they can physically be, and I bet they'll catch up immediately.

Anyway, I agree with Grobyc. Where's the "Yes but I never bought any tickets in the first place." option?
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baoluvboa
Profile Joined December 2010
743 Posts
March 10 2011 03:08 GMT
#50
On March 10 2011 12:07 DirtYLOu wrote:
I think that GOMTV's priority should be GSTL, not GSL. GSTL is such more entertaining and all that drama would do only better in SC2...


Indeed, A SC2 Proleague would be so amazing.
Zzoram
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada7115 Posts
March 10 2011 03:09 GMT
#51
I'll watch TSL3, but the matches I'm most excited to watch are the ones with the Koreans in them. TSL3, with all the excellent foreigners both known and unknown qualifiers, is perhaps the best opportunity for foreigners to prove that they can play on par with the top Koreans. I don't think they stand a chance, but who knows with latency.
Svartstol
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden171 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-10 03:12:01
March 10 2011 03:09 GMT
#52
I feel that with the upcoming NASL and MLG I do feel more drawn to that,

The reason for this is that the western pro scene feels more like 'home' in a sense, By now we all have our favourite streamer who we will be rooting for at MLG and it adds a bit more of a personal bit to it as opposed to the korean pro scene.

In my opinion GSL is a bit more stiff and really has no room crazy stuff to happen (not that i've seen anyway)

Bosu said something that hit the marker to; "I prefer watching players that interact more with the community."- I agree!
rysecake
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2632 Posts
March 10 2011 03:11 GMT
#53
On March 10 2011 11:54 Durn wrote:
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On March 10 2011 11:52 rysecake wrote:
Yes because I value skilled play above all else. Doesn't matter the color of the man playing as long as he delivers. As of now, Korean play is above foreign play, so I'll stick to it.

I can respect that. My main thing is that my favorite players are sort of displacing themselves amongst the foreigner scene rather than trying so hard to get to GSL. I guess I am more loyal to the players than to the actual play itself, which is sort of weird to say.


I get attached to players as well, which is why you will probably find rage posts from me when people like Mvp lose. I'm happy that the foreigner scene is expanding but for me, incredible play is a primary attraction, and watching games by Mvp, MC, etc. are what give me that exhilarating feeling. So yea, I actually follow the players more than the play itself so to speak, it's just that my favorite players are korean haha
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Zzoram
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada7115 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-10 03:15:12
March 10 2011 03:12 GMT
#54
I really don't get the criticism of Korean play. They play to win, as any professional should. Sometimes that means a protracted macro game, sometimes that means a timing push that ends the game at 10 minutes, sometimes it means an all-in because of a greedy opponent. They just do what is best in the situation. This sometimes results in the same build several times in a row, or a highly varied Bo5 where we never see the same build twice.

I'm attracted to players who prove themselves the most skilled, I don't care what colour skin they have or what language they speak. A lot of foreigners talk tough, let's see them prove themselves in TSL3 and any other major tournament where they have to face solid Koreans.
darmousseh
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3437 Posts
March 10 2011 03:13 GMT
#55
Actually my interest has gotten higher since the players are playing significantly better.
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Maynarde
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia1286 Posts
March 10 2011 03:13 GMT
#56
I will follow Tastosis and the best players in the world wherever they go. GSL definitely still the one for me, although I will follow as many other leagues as possible. Very excited about NASL and TSL in particular.
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Alver
Profile Joined November 2010
United States177 Posts
March 10 2011 03:14 GMT
#57
the tournament with the best players is the most important one to watch imo, secondary priority being best casters. currently gsl has both and i wouldent stop paying for gsl to pay for something else unless it had allready finished a season with gsl level quality.

i certainly wouldent mind seeing more foreigners, especially north american players doing well in tournaments but id rather watch the highest level of play. also while i dont mind watching games cast from replays seeing the players in the studio is pretty nice.

also for me nasl will be watchable pretty easily without paying, 2 streams a day with better quality than goms paid stream sounds nice.
Cyanocyst
Profile Joined October 2010
2222 Posts
March 10 2011 03:14 GMT
#58
On March 10 2011 12:08 baoluvboa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2011 12:07 DirtYLOu wrote:
I think that GOMTV's priority should be GSTL, not GSL. GSTL is such more entertaining and all that drama would do only better in SC2...


Indeed, A SC2 Proleague would be so amazing.


Personally i would like a longer more drawn out version of GSTL. However i disagree with it being GoM's main focus.
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Cyanocyst
Profile Joined October 2010
2222 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-10 03:16:08
March 10 2011 03:15 GMT
#59
On March 10 2011 12:05 Cent wrote:
MVP and MC are the best. And they both play in GSL. Guess what I'm going to watch.

I'd watch Code A too if Kelly wasn't screwing it up. Can't stand her NASAL voice, but would welcome any other talented caster.


Well no wonder your picking GSL over NASL.
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Space Invader
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia291 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-10 03:18:59
March 10 2011 03:15 GMT
#60
The problem for me is that I struggle to enjoy watching a competitive tournament like MLG if I know it's actually just not all the best players in the world. It's like, yeah he won MLG, but what does that even mean? He's the best of the worst? It just doesn't seem properly competitive at that point and I lose interest. Not completely, obviously I'll still enjoy watching some of my favourite players, but the attraction of GSL is knowing that these are absolutely THE BEST players out there, and this one guy beat them all out for the crown and a life-changing amount of money.

Also Toastasis casts the GSL and I doubt there will be such a dynamic duo for a very long long time. I actually just love watching those guys so much, they could be reporting the weather and I'd still be doing barrel rolls about it.
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