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This thread is for discussing the deadlines and registration process. Please post any unrelated questions in the NASL Q&A thread.
Schmieds
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States312 Posts
March 03 2011 21:18 GMT
#201
lol at shew, "I WANT AVILO!"
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JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-03 21:29:19
March 03 2011 21:27 GMT
#202
On March 04 2011 00:33 TheDougler wrote:
I think everyone arguing about Korean versus Foriegner skill should wait for TSL3 so that we can get a really good opinion of it, rather than IEM which was a relatively small sample size. Sure the absolute best arte probably gonna be korean, but right up there are Jinro and IdrA, and personally I don´t see a difference between IdrA winning game after game and say MKP winning game after game. In fact, I´d rather see MKP than IdrA due to the playstyle.


Well, Jinro and IdrA are mainly that good, because they trained in Korea.
Weren't they even included in the "korean invites" for that very tournament? ^^


Anyways, I do hope that the NASL will gather the very best of all over the world,
like incontrol wished for in one of the first interviews about NASL.
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
March 03 2011 22:13 GMT
#203
On March 03 2011 09:49 avilo wrote:
Any other top player not on a "team" yet here want to form a "2 man team" with me? Otherwise i'm gonna have to submit "team avilo" lmao

Avilo i will sponser you! i will send you a 1 dollar payment. however your team will be known as TIMBA.
Bobster
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany3075 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-03 23:57:37
March 03 2011 23:53 GMT
#204
On March 04 2011 04:40 Xeris wrote:
Hey all! I'd just like to post a quick update and say that we are currently reaching out to some Korean teams & players about participation in the NASL! We appreciate everyone's concern and want to say that we will do what we can to get Koreans in the league and accommodate them as best we can.


If there's only two spots left, cut Nestea and MvP for Shew and avilo. Koreans don't know shit about Pro-Wrestling theatrics.

:p
Loophole
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States867 Posts
March 04 2011 00:28 GMT
#205
This whole process seems weird.
"Fundamental preparation is always effective. Work on those parts of your game that are fundamentally weak." -Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
Rokk
Profile Joined March 2010
United States425 Posts
March 04 2011 00:48 GMT
#206
On March 04 2011 01:58 dkim wrote:
with the $250 bucks deposit requirement, I don't think this is accessible to NA residents as gsl was to koreans during pre seasons.

It's not meant to be. The GSL was an open tournament, with open qualifiers for all 64 spots. This is an invitational where anyone (with a means to do so) can apply, but only 50 players will be selected to compete. The open part of this tournament is only for the 1 spot in the 16 man LAN finals.
ArhK
Profile Joined July 2007
France287 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-04 10:18:52
March 04 2011 10:06 GMT
#207
On March 03 2011 20:00 Buddhist wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2011 18:01 TheRealPaciFist wrote:
On March 03 2011 17:00 smileyyy wrote:
On March 03 2011 16:52 kagemucha wrote:
The point is if the koreans want to play in this league its up to them to contact the nasl guys and not the other way around. Pretty simple isnt it ?.
Xeris etc shouldnt be running after the koreans holding their hands for every step.

Atleast GSL puts effort in getting Foreigners to come. They have an entire website fully translated in ENGLISH and has created clear and defined rules to getting into GSL as a foreigner (whether it be participating in the Open Qualifiers earlier, or getting into the Foreigner house). NASL isn't providing any type of translation instructions for Koreans, how are Koreans suppose to know what to do? Is there even a Korean speaking representative on NASL where Korean teams can even contact? It's not going to be Geoff on MSN obviously.

I get your point. However the NASL stated themselves that they are not the GSL. So they run the things their way. If you are a korean team and want to participate its up to you. If you have trouble with english get a translator. The NASL is an E-Sports event aimed at the western audience. Why should they have special treatment for koreans ?.

GOM just aims as their league name states: Global Starcraft II League at a global audience.
NASL = North American Star League Do you see the difference.


I think not having some sort of translated webpage for Koreans would be ridiculous. I say "would be" because I think the only reason there isn't one is because this is still early in NASL's creation... there will be a lot of rough edges until things get smoothed out.

I disagree. English is the language of the internet. Like he said, it's an NA tourney, not a Global tourney. Global includes NA, hence GSL's English site. NA does not include Korea, hence no Korean.

And saying "just get one translator for the site" is a bit silly. Why not get one Swahili translator? One Farsi translator? One Swedish translator? One Norwegian? German? French? Italian?

You could say "But Koreans dominate the scene!" But then that is asking for special treatment.

English is the language of the internet, it's generally accepted by everyone outside of China, Korea, and Japan.

Edit: This all just reminds me of a WoW vid made by a french guy, in French, with no English subtitles, and Swedish and German people were saying "why isn't this in English? Everyone accepts that as the language of the internet".

When you want to create a new top tier league, you contact directly the best actors in the world of the domain your are creating a league in and make sure they participate.

I don't give a shit about wether Player X or Y can brag on a video and smacktalk, all I am interested in is seeing the best SC2 players in the world compete against each other. If NASL is just "Top EU/US" player one base all-in and cheese chaining, that is just a shame. Wether you like it or not, EU/US SC2 players are getting raped hard by every mid level Korean, and the recent macro games with SanZenith for example were astonishing and highly spectacular. That's the kind of level I love to watch, amazing micro/macro awareness etc...
Shinobi1982
Profile Joined January 2011
1605 Posts
March 04 2011 10:17 GMT
#208
Quick search on youtube, LzGaMeR audition popped up
Train like an animal, eat like a horse, sleep like a baby, grow like a weed.
kedinik
Profile Joined September 2010
United States352 Posts
March 04 2011 11:56 GMT
#209
LzGaMeR has a pleasant southern twang.
ReaperX
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Hong Kong1758 Posts
March 04 2011 12:32 GMT
#210
haha, i don't know why people wanted to troll the application but i found it quite interesting. LzGamer's app was also quite professional tbh... just not as OP good as idrA.
Artosis : Clide. idrA : Shut up.
Sephimos
Profile Joined January 2011
United States144 Posts
March 04 2011 14:10 GMT
#211
If everyone's video is as good as Shew's, then the NASL has already beaten GOM. Done.
You see!! YOU SEEEEE!! -Sen
Technique
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands1542 Posts
March 04 2011 14:18 GMT
#212
On March 03 2011 12:28 ptbl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2011 12:20 godemperor wrote:
On March 03 2011 12:10 ptbl wrote:
On March 03 2011 12:04 godemperor wrote:
On March 03 2011 11:51 esaul17 wrote:
Have Korean teams been invited? I've seen this question be asked a few times but haven't seen an answer, and it seems very important to know if the top teams in the world have been given equal footing to compete (as some of the past comments made made this league feel like it was rather anti-Korean).

There will be no invitations, see the Q&A


I thought Xeris said there is no cap on the amount of koreans participating in NASL. Why wouldn't he invite them? Incontrol mentioned that NASL wanted the best players to participate in the league, so I bet we'll see players like oGsMC, IMMvp, etc be in the league.


Koreans: We're not GSL. Bringing in all the Koreans will just make this event the GSL. We are focusing on the growth of Western ESPORTS, by providing players and storylines that are more relatable to our audience. That being said there is no CAP on the number of Koreans who are eligible to participate in this tournament.

I mean NASL won't actively bring Koreans in, but they eligible should they apply.


NASL would be shooting themselves in the foot if they don't invite the Koreans. It would directly contradict their mission of bringing the best players in the world to participate in NASL. Even TSL, IEM, Dreamhack invited Koreans to their tournaments. I doubt NASL would risk alienating part of the starcraft community by not having top Korean players participate.

It's the american way... have a bunch of americans compete for ''world titles'' :D.
If you think you're good, you suck. If you think you suck, you're getting better.
b0oyah
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
Canada117 Posts
March 04 2011 15:24 GMT
#213
Wow that interview with shew was really funny. I hope to see a lot more interviews in this style cause imo thats what the korean were always lacking; drama.
nekuodah
Profile Joined August 2010
England2409 Posts
March 04 2011 15:28 GMT
#214
Haha i love these audition videos already gief more like Shews!
hmsrenown
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada1263 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-04 15:52:14
March 04 2011 15:50 GMT
#215
On March 03 2011 22:23 bmg4ever wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2011 22:11 Hrrrrm wrote:
Level of competition should be at the forefront. If there aren't a couple of Koreans at least representing that area/skill, NASL is right that it won't be the GSL. It'll be considered a B-League ...


... by the oldschool broodwar TL user elite, who likes to see korean faces not showing any emotion at all.

But its totally fine to be considered a B-League by those guys, still the B, C and D leagues already existing out there get some decent viewer numbers.

Show nested quote +
On March 03 2011 22:11 Hrrrrm wrote: It's the same reason why Arena Football is seen as a joke in the states because everyone knows the tip-top players are in the NFL. You really don't want to be hit with that stigma from the start.


your sports comparison is just dumb, but k kindda understandable regarding the american sports perspective. the soccer leagues here all over europe are extremly popular in their countries and nobody watching the german league every weekend goes to the stadium with a sad face, close to tears, that he has to watch B level soccer, cause the considered best league in the world is in england.
you also maybe wont believe that there are people outside of the usa who ENJOY watching ice hockey in their local leagues and still know that the best matches are played in the NHL. and those people are totally aware of that fact and will somewhat follow the NHL aswell, like we all enjoy and follow the GSL even after the NASL will be finally started.

Even in Canada, we love our juniors. American spectator mentality of either be the big leagues or nothing is quite absurd. And NASL isn't groomed to be minors either. IEM is still a single tournament, and why, IdrA was consistently at the top of Korean scene, does his IEM performance discounts his skill by that much?

On March 04 2011 06:27 JustPassingBy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2011 00:33 TheDougler wrote:
I think everyone arguing about Korean versus Foriegner skill should wait for TSL3 so that we can get a really good opinion of it, rather than IEM which was a relatively small sample size. Sure the absolute best arte probably gonna be korean, but right up there are Jinro and IdrA, and personally I don´t see a difference between IdrA winning game after game and say MKP winning game after game. In fact, I´d rather see MKP than IdrA due to the playstyle.


Well, Jinro and IdrA are mainly that good, because they trained in Korea.
Weren't they even included in the "korean invites" for that very tournament? ^^


Anyways, I do hope that the NASL will gather the very best of all over the world,
like incontrol wished for in one of the first interviews about NASL.

He is in "korean invites" due to his inability to qualify online. It is quite clear that people in Korea have terrible connections to both EU and NA servers, barring them from a fair qualification otherwise.
ptbl
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6074 Posts
March 04 2011 15:57 GMT
#216
On March 05 2011 00:24 b0oyah wrote:
Wow that interview with shew was really funny. I hope to see a lot more interviews in this style cause imo thats what the korean were always lacking; drama.


You must have not been following the GSL. There has been drama between Idra and Clide/Zenio, Jinro and Polt, and in the Code S selection process, etc. And of course there are always the ceremonies like Leenock crushing a coca-cola can after he beat Coca.
Don't mind me
EGLzGaMeR
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States1867 Posts
March 04 2011 16:09 GMT
#217
On March 04 2011 20:56 kedinik wrote:
LzGaMeR has a pleasant southern twang.

haha.. why thank you ^_^
stalife
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada1222 Posts
March 04 2011 18:16 GMT
#218
I don't understand why Shew and Lzgamer made those videos tbh..I'm sure team LG (lazarus-gaming) was contacted, and obviously team EG must have been contacted... So why did Lz and Shew make those application videos?
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iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
March 04 2011 18:18 GMT
#219
because everyone HAS to make a video o-O

regardless of if their team was contacted or not...
Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
March 04 2011 18:18 GMT
#220
On March 05 2011 03:16 stalife wrote:
I don't understand why Shew and Lzgamer made those videos tbh..I'm sure team LG (lazarus-gaming) was contacted, and obviously team EG must have been contacted... So why did Lz and Shew make those application videos?


Dude EVERYONE has to do it. Lol
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