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FliedLice
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany7494 Posts
March 22 2011 23:07 GMT
#1681
HasuObs, Socke, Darkforce, Cloud

I love this on the first day already <3
Kevmeister @ Dota2
stalife
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada1222 Posts
March 22 2011 23:09 GMT
#1682
On March 23 2011 08:05 chonkyfire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2011 07:55 -Archangel- wrote:
I have to question only 2 choices on this list so far, Haypro and Cruncher. Both these players have not accomplished much (anything) and have not been showing good games consistently.



=/

I would say catz is easily the weakest player of the ones selected so far


CatZ won the justin.tv invitational #1 which is quite an accomplishment. I'm sure he has other accomplishments under his belt. Remember NASL guys are looking at results :D
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ReachTheSky
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3294 Posts
March 22 2011 23:11 GMT
#1683
On March 23 2011 07:55 -Archangel- wrote:
I have to question only 2 choices on this list so far, Haypro and Cruncher. Both these players have not accomplished much (anything) and have not been showing good games consistently.


r u kidding me? Cruncher just won the last couple showmatches sponsored by complexity (still the king as well) and just won one of the TLOpens qualifying for TSL3 > Fenix. Seems pretty consistant to me. What evidence do you have to support your claim o.O

As far as Haypro goes i can kinda see how you might say that as he hasn't quite performed well at GSL. However he is definitely a top player on a top team but hasn't been able to shine quite yet as much as the other liquid members. I do think he is a good choice for nasl tho.


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chonkyfire
Profile Joined December 2010
United States451 Posts
March 22 2011 23:12 GMT
#1684
On March 23 2011 08:09 stalife wrote:


CatZ won the justin.tv invitational #1 which is quite an accomplishment. I'm sure he has other accomplishments under his belt. Remember NASL guys are looking at results :D



I"m looking at his team liquid profile right now,

justin tv win and a showmatch win/loss. Not to mention he got slaughtered by TLO last week..

Don't get me wrong, I think catz is a great player and a good guy, but out of who has been selected so far he's my weakest link.
Just when I thought that I saw I ghost, I realized that it was the endo smoke
GhostFall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States830 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-22 23:24:03
March 22 2011 23:21 GMT
#1685
You know looking over the list of all players who submitted an application, makes you realize just how small the North American scene is for Starcraft. I think small is a bad word here. Let me rephrase as the North American scene is lacking by far in global accomplishments.

There arent there many big names that are North American when it comes to teams
Korea is obvious, ST, Slayers, OGS, etc
Europe has a some pretty big ones: TeamLiquid , Mouz, etc
American have EG, but only Idra made a name for himself. ROOT and complexity while good, havent made a global splash like the other teams mentioned above. If you asked a Korean, they would know about Team Liquid or Idra, but probably wouldnt know about ROOT as an example.
lucasesper
Profile Joined June 2010
Brazil181 Posts
March 22 2011 23:23 GMT
#1686
I really, really liked the format. The diagrams made it easy to understand. I specially liked how there is a real incentive to players with early losses to keep fighting until the end.

I will definetely subscribe, well done!
chonkyfire
Profile Joined December 2010
United States451 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-22 23:25:40
March 22 2011 23:24 GMT
#1687
On March 23 2011 08:21 GhostFall wrote:
You know looking over the list of all players who submitted an application, makes you realize just how small the North American scene is for Starcraft. I think small is a bad word here. Let me rephrase as the North American scene is lacking by far in global accomplishments.

There arent there many big names that are North American when it comes to teams
Korea is obvious, ST, Slayers, OGS, etc
Europe has a some pretty big ones: TeamLiquid , Mouz,
American have EG, but only Idra made a name for himself. ROOT and complexity while good, havent made a global splash like the other teams mentioned above. If you asked a Korean, they would know about Team Liquid or Idra, but probably wouldnt know about ROOT as an example.


I think QXC could be an elite player like idra if he only focused on sc2 (yes I know he's very good now, but I think he has untapped potential), but I see what your point is. There really isn't too many tip top american players.
Just when I thought that I saw I ghost, I realized that it was the endo smoke
Mairu
Profile Joined August 2010
United States222 Posts
March 22 2011 23:27 GMT
#1688
Why isn't there any sort of background information to go with the "announcement" of the first set of players? I expected a little bit more than just a list on the website with the players when they'd get announced, especially with the whole "5 players per day" format. Maybe I've just been spoiled by how TSL3 has been produced and presented, but I kind of expected something similar to that, with a bit of information to go with each player as to what they've done or why they've been invited.
bejurne
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany29 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-22 23:34:06
March 22 2011 23:31 GMT
#1689
On March 23 2011 08:27 Mairu wrote:
Why isn't there any sort of background information to go with the "announcement" of the first set of players? I expected a little bit more than just a list on the website with the players when they'd get announced, especially with the whole "5 players per day" format. Maybe I've just been spoiled by how TSL3 has been produced and presented, but I kind of expected something similar to that, with a bit of information to go with each player as to what they've done or why they've been invited.


Yeah, especially since they announced a new level of production and stories around the games. What do they have the application videos for? I cant help it, but the whole thing seems a bit amateurish to me. Nothing wrong that really, but when big words are used for the hype they need to be followed by actions, otherwise people will be disappointed.

Well, it might all be coming. We'll see. They don't have it easy, the TSL truly set a high standard.
Baarn
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2702 Posts
March 22 2011 23:32 GMT
#1690
On March 23 2011 08:21 GhostFall wrote:
You know looking over the list of all players who submitted an application, makes you realize just how small the North American scene is for Starcraft. I think small is a bad word here. Let me rephrase as the North American scene is lacking by far in global accomplishments.

There arent there many big names that are North American when it comes to teams
Korea is obvious, ST, Slayers, OGS, etc
Europe has a some pretty big ones: TeamLiquid , Mouz, etc
American have EG, but only Idra made a name for himself. ROOT and complexity while good, havent made a global splash like the other teams mentioned above. If you asked a Korean, they would know about Team Liquid or Idra, but probably wouldnt know about ROOT as an example.


This will change after a few NASL seasons.
There's no S in KT. :P
Teejing
Profile Joined January 2009
Germany1360 Posts
March 22 2011 23:38 GMT
#1691
Well i hope this question was not already answered in any of the last 80 pages:

Is the 11th ranked player positioned just like the 30th player

or

will it be like gsl up and down matches where rank winner of 21-30 fight rank 16-20 which winner will play rank 11-15 for the 5 spots ?


Presonally as a spectater i guess i prefer the more simple solution, but when rank 3 is worth as much as rank 6 then some matches will be pointless for the players ( at the end of group phase).
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-22 23:41:16
March 22 2011 23:40 GMT
#1692
On March 23 2011 08:11 ReachTheSky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2011 07:55 -Archangel- wrote:
I have to question only 2 choices on this list so far, Haypro and Cruncher. Both these players have not accomplished much (anything) and have not been showing good games consistently.


r u kidding me? Cruncher just won the last couple showmatches sponsored by complexity (still the king as well) and just won one of the TLOpens qualifying for TSL3 > Fenix. Seems pretty consistant to me. What evidence do you have to support your claim o.O

As far as Haypro goes i can kinda see how you might say that as he hasn't quite performed well at GSL. However he is definitely a top player on a top team but hasn't been able to shine quite yet as much as the other liquid members. I do think he is a good choice for nasl tho.

Who did he play against in these showmatches?
He has one win in TL open. Maybe he got lucky. TL open is not even considered as a more important tournament. We will see how he does against Idra and others in TSL3 now.

As for Haypro, he really didn't show anything yet. Being on team liquid does not automatically make him a good player. I am almost sure that if he didn't get a free spot in Code A this season he would not have passed the qualifiers. He showed the weakest play in Code A, and also watching his stream it is clear his mechanics are not good enough when compared with players like Idra or Sen or Ret (not to mention all the good Korean Zergs).

So far I consider two of them the weakest links for NASL. They will really need to prove they belong there.
Ikuu
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom97 Posts
March 22 2011 23:44 GMT
#1693
It's a little disappointing that for something promised to be so professional is being completely out-classed by the TSL.
jlake02
Profile Joined January 2011
United States395 Posts
March 22 2011 23:46 GMT
#1694
Archangel, he beat PainUser, SjoW and LzGaMeR. I think Cruncher deserves to be in the league and will prove that in 2011.
compLexity Gaming - @coL_Lake
ReachTheSky
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3294 Posts
March 22 2011 23:47 GMT
#1695
On March 23 2011 08:40 -Archangel- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2011 08:11 ReachTheSky wrote:
On March 23 2011 07:55 -Archangel- wrote:
I have to question only 2 choices on this list so far, Haypro and Cruncher. Both these players have not accomplished much (anything) and have not been showing good games consistently.


r u kidding me? Cruncher just won the last couple showmatches sponsored by complexity (still the king as well) and just won one of the TLOpens qualifying for TSL3 > Fenix. Seems pretty consistant to me. What evidence do you have to support your claim o.O

As far as Haypro goes i can kinda see how you might say that as he hasn't quite performed well at GSL. However he is definitely a top player on a top team but hasn't been able to shine quite yet as much as the other liquid members. I do think he is a good choice for nasl tho.

Who did he play against in these showmatches?
He has one win in TL open. Maybe he got lucky. TL open is not even considered as a more important tournament. We will see how he does against Idra and others in TSL3 now.

As for Haypro, he really didn't show anything yet. Being on team liquid does not automatically make him a good player. I am almost sure that if he didn't get a free spot in Code A this season he would not have passed the qualifiers. He showed the weakest play in Code A, and also watching his stream it is clear his mechanics are not good enough when compared with players like Idra or Sen or Ret (not to mention all the good Korean Zergs).

So far I consider two of them the weakest links for NASL. They will really need to prove they belong there.


He beat Sjow, PainUser and LzGamer in Best of 7 showmatches within the last month(None of them even close i believe all were 4-1 in cruncher's favor). Before these showmatches he won the TLOpen vs Fenix(also an invite to nasl) which was pretty onesided, i believe 3-0.

How can you say he is not a good contender? This guy is on fire.
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alexhard
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden317 Posts
March 22 2011 23:49 GMT
#1696
On March 23 2011 08:09 stalife wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2011 08:05 chonkyfire wrote:
On March 23 2011 07:55 -Archangel- wrote:
I have to question only 2 choices on this list so far, Haypro and Cruncher. Both these players have not accomplished much (anything) and have not been showing good games consistently.



=/

I would say catz is easily the weakest player of the ones selected so far


CatZ won the justin.tv invitational #1 which is quite an accomplishment. I'm sure he has other accomplishments under his belt. Remember NASL guys are looking at results :D


Not to minimize his accomplishment, but it appears that people with many more and much more significant results will be left out, so...
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
March 22 2011 23:50 GMT
#1697
Well he is the guy that 4gated Idra and Idra called him a noob :D
I trust Idra more then any of you
Zocat
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2229 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-23 00:06:59
March 23 2011 00:01 GMT
#1698
On March 23 2011 08:50 -Archangel- wrote:
Well he is the guy that 4gated Idra and Idra called him a noob :D
I trust Idra more then any of you


Drama potential. See this thread.
Btw - Idra called Nestea a noob before Nestea rocked the GSL (and Idra changed his mind)

Will Cruncher deliver? No one knows. But if he does there is a lot of backstory.
It's one of the wildcards for NASL. If he sucks, no one really cares (because he surely doesnt take the spot of a high caliber player). If he doesnt - the drama will bring a lot of viewers/tension


On March 23 2011 07:29 Gatsbi wrote:
Who are Darkforce and Cruncher?


Name the best 5 EU Zergs (who havent spent time in KR -> disregar ret & Haypro).
Morrow. Dimaga. Then who else? Afaik Darkfoce is one of them.

Also: (NSFW) Darkforce @Takes home
Hammurabio
Profile Joined August 2010
152 Posts
March 23 2011 00:13 GMT
#1699
Second, we need world-class production quality for every show. (T)Only the best show does justice to the best players.

If you are looking for "world-class production quality", that should include how you release the selected players. Five per day is great. This is the biggest opportunity to promote the league before it starts. Just sticking the names in an HTML table at the bottom of the NASL website is kinda lame. I was expecting video clips of each player.

At least, you should include the race and country of each player invited.

vojnik
Profile Joined October 2010
Macedonia923 Posts
March 23 2011 00:18 GMT
#1700
no ret, no morrow, no dimaga? are you crazy?
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