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pdd
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia9933 Posts
March 23 2011 00:24 GMT
#1701
On March 23 2011 09:18 vojnik wrote:
no ret, no morrow, no dimaga? are you crazy?

Relax. We're only 15/50 players through. Still another 35 to be announced.
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vojnik
Profile Joined October 2010
Macedonia923 Posts
March 23 2011 00:24 GMT
#1702
On March 23 2011 09:24 pdd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2011 09:18 vojnik wrote:
no ret, no morrow, no dimaga? are you crazy?

Relax. We're only 15/50 players through. Still another 35 to be announced.


oh stupid me
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Gentso
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2218 Posts
March 23 2011 00:57 GMT
#1703
I suspect that the NASL will only have 5 Koreans. That number was said a few times by nasl officials, and only 1/15 of the first names announced is Korean. Prove me wrong, please.. : (
Wegandi
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2455 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-23 01:04:52
March 23 2011 01:00 GMT
#1704
Too much hate on NA players. Yes, the NA scene does not have the depth that Europe does, but I would put the top NA players against any others in the world -- IdrA, NonY, SeleCT, HuK and if Artosis could spend most of his time practicing he would be up there. That said, I do not think CaTz, Kiwi, or ClouD are in the top 50.

As a consumer, my preference is to see July, NaDa, Artosis, BoxeR, MC, RainbOw, NonY, TLO, and IdrA.

I think there will be a friendly rivalry between NA, Europe, and KR. Should be fun to see the competitive spirit of each region. Show them some of that American spirit, determination, and rugged individualism my fellow Americans!
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Ansalem
Profile Joined November 2010
564 Posts
March 23 2011 01:18 GMT
#1705
On March 23 2011 09:57 Gentso wrote:
I suspect that the NASL will only have 5 Koreans. That number was said a few times by nasl officials, and only 1/15 of the first names announced is Korean. Prove me wrong, please.. : (


Xeris made a post somewhere (one of these threads, I can't remember) where he stated explicitly that there was not a 5 person or any limit on the amount of Koreans. Too early to tell how many there will be. /shrug
Canucklehead
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada5074 Posts
March 23 2011 01:24 GMT
#1706
On March 23 2011 10:18 Ansalem wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2011 09:57 Gentso wrote:
I suspect that the NASL will only have 5 Koreans. That number was said a few times by nasl officials, and only 1/15 of the first names announced is Korean. Prove me wrong, please.. : (


Xeris made a post somewhere (one of these threads, I can't remember) where he stated explicitly that there was not a 5 person or any limit on the amount of Koreans. Too early to tell how many there will be. /shrug


There doesn't have to be an explicit korean invite rule because this is an invitational so the limit is based on how many invites they want to send out.
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Ansalem
Profile Joined November 2010
564 Posts
March 23 2011 01:27 GMT
#1707
On March 23 2011 10:24 Canucklehead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2011 10:18 Ansalem wrote:
On March 23 2011 09:57 Gentso wrote:
I suspect that the NASL will only have 5 Koreans. That number was said a few times by nasl officials, and only 1/15 of the first names announced is Korean. Prove me wrong, please.. : (


Xeris made a post somewhere (one of these threads, I can't remember) where he stated explicitly that there was not a 5 person or any limit on the amount of Koreans. Too early to tell how many there will be. /shrug


There doesn't have to be an explicit korean invite rule because this is an invitational so the limit is based on how many invites they want to send out.


Yeah, I was just pointing out that they did not throw out the number 5 in regards to Koreans, but the opposite. (Maybe he was thinking of the 5-per-team rule, which was done away with) We'll find out when we find out.
AndreiDaGiant
Profile Joined October 2010
United States394 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-23 01:31:45
March 23 2011 01:30 GMT
#1708
On March 23 2011 10:00 Wegandi wrote:
Too much hate on NA players. Yes, the NA scene does not have the depth that Europe does, but I would put the top NA players against any others in the world -- IdrA, NonY, SeleCT, HuK and if Artosis could spend most of his time practicing he would be up there. That said, I do not think CaTz, Kiwi, or ClouD are in the top 50.

As a consumer, my preference is to see July, NaDa, Artosis, BoxeR, MC, RainbOw, NonY, TLO, and IdrA.

I think there will be a friendly rivalry between NA, Europe, and KR. Should be fun to see the competitive spirit of each region. Show them some of that American spirit, determination, and rugged individualism my fellow Americans!



i Think kiwi should definitely be there... i also think cloud is a european player but i could be wrong... i think the fact cruncher is in it is a little strange
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Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
March 23 2011 01:30 GMT
#1709
I would just say that it might make sense to add the empty brackets on your front page, so that idiots that forget things easily (meLOL) don't get confused. I basically just heard the invites were out, went to the homepage and got very confused. Luckily I took the time to reread the OP and pdd's post before saying anything, but I can guarantee you that a lot of people won't.
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tsuxiit
Profile Joined July 2010
1305 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-23 01:40:04
March 23 2011 01:38 GMT
#1710
Does NASL need more staff? Does NASL feel like it needs more staff?

I mean, as this league has developed we've seen very little in the way of things like website development, any sort of business-like methodology, or wide representation from people within the league itself; you see something like GSL and you know there are dozens of people with full-time jobs running around doing tons of things to make the league seem as much like a 'real league' as possible. I mean, the production value is huge. IGN's proleague is sure to run in the same way, as its being run by a huge corporation. The NASL, meanwhile, seems to literally just be Gretorp, iNcontroL, Xeris, and Russell in that little conference room with the whiteboard. Not that anything is wrong with that, but it's kind of hard for four people to get the hype train rolling.

edit: The reason I made this post was because I kind of was lamed-out when I saw that you guys were slowly revealing the players 5 at a time but the source code on your site, when viewed, showed the next ten as well. It seems like that sort of error should have been caught, and as well that your website should be in general more well kept-up and functional.
KoshkaTV
Profile Joined October 2010
United States430 Posts
March 23 2011 01:43 GMT
#1711
On March 23 2011 09:57 Gentso wrote:
I suspect that the NASL will only have 5 Koreans. That number was said a few times by nasl officials, and only 1/15 of the first names announced is Korean. Prove me wrong, please.. : (


Yes, this seem likely to me.

If so NASL won't set the world on fire, but could still be worth watching... maybe... although there is zero chance I'll pay for any content if there aren't at least 10 code S type.

The sad thing about not having the top players, is some people will watch NASL, thinking it is the best of the best... only to later find our that they've been watching the B league all along.

If you're going to bring in a new audience..... give them the best SC has to offer.

Its like having a car show, but not inviting Germans because they are so dedicated to the craft.

www.KoshkaTV.com
vdale
Profile Joined June 2010
Germany1173 Posts
March 23 2011 02:07 GMT
#1712
On March 23 2011 10:43 dsousa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2011 09:57 Gentso wrote:
I suspect that the NASL will only have 5 Koreans. That number was said a few times by nasl officials, and only 1/15 of the first names announced is Korean. Prove me wrong, please.. : (


Yes, this seem likely to me.

If so NASL won't set the world on fire, but could still be worth watching... maybe... although there is zero chance I'll pay for any content if there aren't at least 10 code S type.

The sad thing about not having the top players, is some people will watch NASL, thinking it is the best of the best... only to later find our that they've been watching the B league all along.

If you're going to bring in a new audience..... give them the best SC has to offer.

Its like having a car show, but not inviting Germans because they are so dedicated to the craft.



Who is code S type? Only the players in Code S or players who can compete with them? Maybe Hasu, Thorzain and Morrow, who all won against a Code S player in TSL?
KoshkaTV
Profile Joined October 2010
United States430 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-23 02:19:25
March 23 2011 02:15 GMT
#1713
On March 23 2011 11:07 vdale wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2011 10:43 dsousa wrote:
On March 23 2011 09:57 Gentso wrote:
I suspect that the NASL will only have 5 Koreans. That number was said a few times by nasl officials, and only 1/15 of the first names announced is Korean. Prove me wrong, please.. : (


Yes, this seem likely to me.

If so NASL won't set the world on fire, but could still be worth watching... maybe... although there is zero chance I'll pay for any content if there aren't at least 10 code S type.

The sad thing about not having the top players, is some people will watch NASL, thinking it is the best of the best... only to later find our that they've been watching the B league all along.

If you're going to bring in a new audience..... give them the best SC has to offer.

Its like having a car show, but not inviting Germans because they are so dedicated to the craft.



Who is code S type? Only the players in Code S or players who can compete with them? Maybe Hasu, Thorzain and Morrow, who all won against a Code S player in TSL?


Code S type... are those that have played in Code S or qualified for the GSL opens.....IMO.

I think NASL has over 10 Code S applications
Idra, Huk, Jinro, St_Rainbow, oGsEnsnare, oGsMC, TLO, ST_July, Boxer, Nada, oGstheWind....

even more too.....

If you're Code S, or won something like IEM, Dreamhack... then you should be in... otherwise the league is a phony representation of the best players.

I'm sure these Code S players can be beaten... and I would love to see it.... but to not have them.... is to miss the opportunity to see the best players and to miss the opportunity to beat the best players.

Its a double lose.







www.KoshkaTV.com
Ansalem
Profile Joined November 2010
564 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-23 02:23:18
March 23 2011 02:21 GMT
#1714
On March 23 2011 11:15 dsousa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2011 11:07 vdale wrote:
On March 23 2011 10:43 dsousa wrote:
On March 23 2011 09:57 Gentso wrote:
I suspect that the NASL will only have 5 Koreans. That number was said a few times by nasl officials, and only 1/15 of the first names announced is Korean. Prove me wrong, please.. : (


Yes, this seem likely to me.

If so NASL won't set the world on fire, but could still be worth watching... maybe... although there is zero chance I'll pay for any content if there aren't at least 10 code S type.

The sad thing about not having the top players, is some people will watch NASL, thinking it is the best of the best... only to later find our that they've been watching the B league all along.

If you're going to bring in a new audience..... give them the best SC has to offer.

Its like having a car show, but not inviting Germans because they are so dedicated to the craft.



Who is code S type? Only the players in Code S or players who can compete with them? Maybe Hasu, Thorzain and Morrow, who all won against a Code S player in TSL?


Code S type... are those that have played in Code S or qualified for the GSL opens.....IMO.

I think NASL has over 10 Code S applications
Idra, Huk, Jinro, St_Rainbow, oGsEnsnare, oGsMC, TLO, ST_July, Boxer, Nada, oGstheWind....

even more too.....

If you're Code S, or won something like IEM, Dreamhack... then you should be in... otherwise the league is a phony representation of the best players.

I'm sure these Code S players can be beaten... and I would love to see it.... but to not have them.... is to miss the opportunity to see the best players and to miss the opportunity to beat the best players.

Its a double lose.


This post is just all over the place. First you says you want code-S types, which you only define as being in Code or qualifying for GSL opens (seeming to imply the need to have moved to Korea to prove yourself), but later you add winning big tournies like IEM or Dreamhack. Also, remember that Torch, Artosis, and Haypro all qualified in the GSL open tournaments. I don't see them in your list of code-S types, nor Moon who was 2nd at IEM. (Not that Torch app'd to this). Also, Huk and Jinro did not apply to NASL. -.-
KoshkaTV
Profile Joined October 2010
United States430 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-23 02:34:10
March 23 2011 02:32 GMT
#1715
>Also, Huk and Jinro did not apply to NASL. -.-

Why you gotta be so hurtful?

Really? I wonder why then didn't but guys like MC did?

I bet its to make room for Koreans! Cuz Huk and Jinro and righteous dudes and they know NASL wants to limit the top tier Korean talent. (just speculating)


www.KoshkaTV.com
Jouu
Profile Joined March 2011
Peru28 Posts
March 23 2011 02:34 GMT
#1716
an awesome fan mande trailer for the NASL:

found on reddit, i thought i would share :D
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esaul17
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada547 Posts
March 23 2011 02:35 GMT
#1717
The fact that pretty much any Code S player could probably handily beat some of the players announced to me seems to indicate this as a low quality league. Hope the IGN thing turns into something worthwhile. But hey, GSL offers a tonne of content at a great price reliably and professionally. I'd like North American e-sports to kick off but hey, if they aren't up to the task, I am happy to keep handing money over to the competition.
Gooey
Profile Joined September 2010
United States944 Posts
March 23 2011 03:42 GMT
#1718
On March 23 2011 10:00 Wegandi wrote:
Too much hate on NA players. Yes, the NA scene does not have the depth that Europe does, but I would put the top NA players against any others in the world -- IdrA, NonY, SeleCT, HuK and if Artosis could spend most of his time practicing he would be up there. That said, I do not think CaTz, Kiwi, or ClouD are in the top 50.

As a consumer, my preference is to see July, NaDa, Artosis, BoxeR, MC, RainbOw, NonY, TLO, and IdrA.

I think there will be a friendly rivalry between NA, Europe, and KR. Should be fun to see the competitive spirit of each region. Show them some of that American spirit, determination, and rugged individualism my fellow Americans!


Kiwi is #1 seed in MLG over all of those players that you listed (and for a good reason), and has beaten every one of those players consistently in team leagues over the last two months.
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bennyaus
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia1833 Posts
March 23 2011 04:00 GMT
#1719
On March 23 2011 12:42 Gooey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2011 10:00 Wegandi wrote:
Too much hate on NA players. Yes, the NA scene does not have the depth that Europe does, but I would put the top NA players against any others in the world -- IdrA, NonY, SeleCT, HuK and if Artosis could spend most of his time practicing he would be up there. That said, I do not think CaTz, Kiwi, or ClouD are in the top 50.

As a consumer, my preference is to see July, NaDa, Artosis, BoxeR, MC, RainbOw, NonY, TLO, and IdrA.

I think there will be a friendly rivalry between NA, Europe, and KR. Should be fun to see the competitive spirit of each region. Show them some of that American spirit, determination, and rugged individualism my fellow Americans!


Kiwi is #1 seed in MLG over all of those players that you listed (and for a good reason), and has beaten every one of those players consistently in team leagues over the last two months.


Actually, HuK is #1, he just isn't attending as he is in Code S/World Championship, and Kiwi was knocked out by HuK at at least one MLG.
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JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-23 09:03:16
March 23 2011 08:55 GMT
#1720
On March 23 2011 07:55 -Archangel- wrote:
I have to question only 2 choices on this list so far, Haypro and Cruncher. Both these players have not accomplished much (anything) and have not been showing good games consistently.


I was about to say that, but Cruncher got gold in one of the Teamliquid opens with a solid lineup and had beaten sjow + painuser solidly 4-1 in a showmatch, so he can't be that bad (all of those "recently", i.e. in 2011).
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