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m3rciless
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1476 Posts
February 11 2011 14:52 GMT
#81
Lol jinro right above idra in the corrected earnings list. GOTTA STING!
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sudzy
Profile Joined October 2010
United States58 Posts
February 11 2011 14:57 GMT
#82
That's an awfully bad way to make a living...If your not @ the top of the heap, ramen noodle time!
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StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
February 11 2011 15:09 GMT
#83
That list is very inaccurate in terms of money earned by foreigners.
danl9rm
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States3111 Posts
February 11 2011 15:18 GMT
#84
On February 11 2011 19:16 MrSexington wrote:
Why does MVP have less than $87,000?



All the GSL winners get prorated according to their race. Terran gets the least, obviously.
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CTStalker
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Canada9720 Posts
February 11 2011 15:26 GMT
#85
On February 11 2011 23:43 floor exercise wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2011 23:00 Numy wrote:
On February 11 2011 22:56 floor exercise wrote:
Anyone else find it kind of strange for GOM to put this out there? Are they trying to attract players or something?


I would imagine this would have the opposite effect. It shows how meaningless not placing top 4 is in GSL and thus how lopsided GSL prize distribution is. For many players it's just a massive pay cut to go to GSL. So no, I doubt GOM is doing this to try market themselves. If they were they would make Code A have some actual security(Money) for players and cut a bit off the top 2.

Anyway super interesting to see Fenix there. Didn't think he managed to win that much cash. I mean he's an awesome player but just didn't imagine that.


I agree that it likely has the opposite effect, I am just curious what their intention was in posting it. GSL doesn't even pay the 87k for first place anymore that put the top players where they are on the list.

I am just curious why GOM themselves would add up everyones winnings and publicize it, and adjusting it to USD, obviously for the consumption of the foreign audience. Are they trying to attract more foreigners or something?

it can be explained by looking at other professional tournament sports -- both golf and tennis supply these sorts of lists regularly, even though, for a given tournament, the majority of the money on the list didn't come from the present tournament's sponsors. they're just promoting the money that sponsors put into sc2
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tGFuRy
Profile Joined September 2010
United States537 Posts
February 11 2011 15:34 GMT
#86
On February 11 2011 23:57 sudzy wrote:
That's an awfully bad way to make a living...If your not @ the top of the heap, ramen noodle time!

lol thats why most people have a back up plan.
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TheLight
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia410 Posts
February 11 2011 15:59 GMT
#87
On February 11 2011 23:57 sudzy wrote:
That's an awfully bad way to make a living...If your not @ the top of the heap, ramen noodle time!


Do remember that most gamers listed are sponsored to some degree. For instance if a player is in a Korean team, they have no expenditure except for luxuries and entertainment. So everything you get from prizes is yours to spend.

In a standard job you have to pay for your house, water, gas, electricity, food, wife, transport etc.
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cordlc
Profile Joined November 2010
United States360 Posts
February 11 2011 16:01 GMT
#88
Though Idra's total winnings seems low, you can see on the ehcg list how his highest earnings from a tournament is only ~$2600. Besides him, none of the players around the top have anything below $4k until Socke, at #25.

Thought that was interesting
CrayonKing
Profile Joined August 2010
Cambodia124 Posts
February 11 2011 16:06 GMT
#89
tbh I'd say only 50k and above would be considered decent...yeah I understand its only been 6 months but you cannot really assume they'll earn double the amount.

Yes if your the top of the pact (top 5) you are doing really well (100k is a very good amount for esports + sponsorship ) but if you consider the amount of people playing sc2 versus the amount actually getting paid its actually pretty bad. The 20th highest paid player is only getting 10k?? That is the 20th player out of the how many thousands (maybe hundreds if you only include those who've dedicated their life to this game)

Yeah it'd be a sick experience and lots of fun but @ the end of the day not practical. just my opinion tho.
imyzhang
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada809 Posts
February 11 2011 16:07 GMT
#90
cmonnn tester, gotta bring home that bacon.
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Logo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States7542 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-11 16:52:29
February 11 2011 16:51 GMT
#91
On February 12 2011 01:06 CrayonKing wrote:
tbh I'd say only 50k and above would be considered decent...yeah I understand its only been 6 months but you cannot really assume they'll earn double the amount.

Yes if your the top of the pact (top 5) you are doing really well (100k is a very good amount for esports + sponsorship ) but if you consider the amount of people playing sc2 versus the amount actually getting paid its actually pretty bad. The 20th highest paid player is only getting 10k?? That is the 20th player out of the how many thousands (maybe hundreds if you only include those who've dedicated their life to this game)

Yeah it'd be a sick experience and lots of fun but @ the end of the day not practical. just my opinion tho.


Tournament winnings also aren't 100% of your income though. For many of the top players they have team provided housing (and/or food, I dunno how it works) which accounts for a lot as well as money from their team, their sponsors, streaming and coaching.

That's not to say it's a great sum of money for anyone past the top 10-20 people, but these numbers don't reflect the entirety of the situation.
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Ome
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada157 Posts
February 11 2011 17:42 GMT
#92
On February 12 2011 01:06 CrayonKing wrote:

Yeah it'd be a sick experience and lots of fun but @ the end of the day not practical. just my opinion tho.


While true, it's like many competitive sports in the world. It's the same for football, baseball, soccer, hockey etc, hundreds of thousands of people play those sports, many hoping to get paid to do so, but there's only so much room at the top (for example there are currently 1300 players in MLB, and it's estimated that something like 42 million people play baseball in America).

Of course, pro sports players get paid a hell of a lot more then Nestea or MVP, but at the same time, almost every major sport has existed for atleast 50 years, with many much older then that (100 years or more). In the NHL, the average salary for players in 2008 was 1.9 million, while in 1960 it was $25000 (around 160k today) for the best players. The best players in hockey make over 7 million.

Give it time and I think there will be much more money to go around, but still only for the very best.
ehcg
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada41 Posts
February 11 2011 18:21 GMT
#93
To answer the questions about why Koreans seem to have lower income on my site than on the GOM rankings, I would assume it is based on a difference in exchange rate when converting the currencies.
Ownos
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2147 Posts
February 11 2011 21:19 GMT
#94
$10K is minumum wage in some US states. Good enough to live on (nothing luxrious, but you can support yourself.. just yourself though). If it's true some of these guys do not pay for their upkeep that should definitely be a huge plus. What's the cost of living in Korea anyway? That's pretty good for 6 months of playing video games. I'd rather do that than slave over at a burger joint or something.

But yeah the GSL 1st place finish is so lopsided. It's not like anyone can consistently get 1st place. But at least if you do hit first it's good enough to live off of for a couple years assuming you don't go on a shopping spree and don't earn anything else. So you could then keep playing professionally and earn a few extra bucks from a couple 4th place finishes or something.
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blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
February 11 2011 21:21 GMT
#95
Wow Jinro's made 20 grand in the past 3 months? thats sick lol.
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chenchen
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1136 Posts
February 11 2011 21:30 GMT
#96
On February 12 2011 06:19 Ownos wrote:
$10K is minumum wage in some US states. Good enough to live on (nothing luxrious, but you can support yourself.. just yourself though). If it's true some of these guys do not pay for their upkeep that should definitely be a huge plus. What's the cost of living in Korea anyway? That's pretty good for 6 months of playing video games. I'd rather do that than slave over at a burger joint or something.

But yeah the GSL 1st place finish is so lopsided. It's not like anyone can consistently get 1st place. But at least if you do hit first it's good enough to live off of for a couple years assuming you don't go on a shopping spree and don't earn anything else. So you could then keep playing professionally and earn a few extra bucks from a couple 4th place finishes or something.


I believe that Seoul (where most progamers live) rank consistently in the top ten for cities with highest cost of living.
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Raiznhell
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada786 Posts
February 11 2011 23:21 GMT
#97
I think it kinda sucks that 1st prize is so overwhelmingly larger than 2nd and the rest of the prizes. Especially being as high as it is when a game isn't perfectly balanced yet. Batting thousands and thousands on chance for 1st place this early is a good way to scare a lot of players out of staying in Korea to play.
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m3rciless
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1476 Posts
February 11 2011 23:24 GMT
#98
On February 12 2011 06:30 chenchen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2011 06:19 Ownos wrote:
$10K is minumum wage in some US states. Good enough to live on (nothing luxrious, but you can support yourself.. just yourself though). If it's true some of these guys do not pay for their upkeep that should definitely be a huge plus. What's the cost of living in Korea anyway? That's pretty good for 6 months of playing video games. I'd rather do that than slave over at a burger joint or something.

But yeah the GSL 1st place finish is so lopsided. It's not like anyone can consistently get 1st place. But at least if you do hit first it's good enough to live off of for a couple years assuming you don't go on a shopping spree and don't earn anything else. So you could then keep playing professionally and earn a few extra bucks from a couple 4th place finishes or something.


I believe that Seoul (where most progamers live) rank consistently in the top ten for cities with highest cost of living.


for a normal person maybe. Living in a teamhouse, your cost of living is as low as your threshold for shitty food, pretty much.

User was temp banned for this post.
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fishinguy
Profile Joined November 2010
Russian Federation798 Posts
February 11 2011 23:31 GMT
#99
Wow, I didnt understand being a sc2 pro gamer could be this bad, especially out of korea. Even in korea you need to be top 10 to get a decent ammount of money. I doubt sponsor money is enough to live on outside of korea and I dont know how these guys manage on minimum wage.
chenchen
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1136 Posts
February 11 2011 23:41 GMT
#100
On February 12 2011 08:24 m3rciless wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2011 06:30 chenchen wrote:
On February 12 2011 06:19 Ownos wrote:
$10K is minumum wage in some US states. Good enough to live on (nothing luxrious, but you can support yourself.. just yourself though). If it's true some of these guys do not pay for their upkeep that should definitely be a huge plus. What's the cost of living in Korea anyway? That's pretty good for 6 months of playing video games. I'd rather do that than slave over at a burger joint or something.

But yeah the GSL 1st place finish is so lopsided. It's not like anyone can consistently get 1st place. But at least if you do hit first it's good enough to live off of for a couple years assuming you don't go on a shopping spree and don't earn anything else. So you could then keep playing professionally and earn a few extra bucks from a couple 4th place finishes or something.


I believe that Seoul (where most progamers live) rank consistently in the top ten for cities with highest cost of living.


for a normal person maybe. Living in a teamhouse, your cost of living is as low as your threshold for shitty food, pretty much.


Lol . . anyone that's been to the oGs-TL house can tell you that the maids there cook pretty good food. Even in documentaries about BW prohouses, you can see that the food is pretty typical tasty Korean food.
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