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LittleAtari
Profile Joined August 2010
Jordan1090 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-11 13:32:48
February 11 2011 08:32 GMT
#1
The Top 20 earning players based on the major tounments that have happened in 2010 until January 30.

[image loading]

Non-GSL players on the list:
mouz.Naama
Fnatic.fenix

The tournaments they added it all up from include the following:

+ Show Spoiler +
GSL Open Season 1

GSL Open Season 2

GSL Open Season 3

MLG Raleigh

MLG Washington DC

MLG Dallas

Blizzcon 2010

IEM New York

IEM Cologne

Gstar 2010 All-Stars

Dreamhack Winter 2010

Swedish SC2 Tournament Pilot Season

GSL Jan.

Danawa Cup YGosu SC2 Invitational

Kaspersky Invitational

GainWard

Brainnox


Source
http://www.gomtv.net/2011gstl1/news/60890

Please note that this only reflects major 1v1 tournament earnings and not other things like show matches or team leagues
------

Look jinro is #9 \o/

Edit: I'd also like to point out that naama, who's never played in a GSL is rank 10. One way to look at it is this is how much people have earned in the 6 months that SC2 has been out.
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EDIT 2:
a lot of people are recommending this list for a more accurate account of earnings. It includes earnings from a lot more tournaments and even smaller events. The list goes on further than top 20. For those interested, here's the top 20 according to ehcg:

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source:
http://ehcg.djgamblore.com/index.php

It does change things but also note that it takes over a larger time period too.

Atlare
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Australia893 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-11 08:34:08
February 11 2011 08:33 GMT
#2
Great work! Nice to see!
Considering learning BW
speedphlux
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Bulgaria962 Posts
February 11 2011 08:35 GMT
#3
Awesome ! :D
Good amount of "aliens"

Jinro, Naama, Loner, IdrA and Fenix hwaiting !!!
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Fa1nT
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3423 Posts
February 11 2011 08:35 GMT
#4
Kinda wish GSL 1-3 were not so top heavy. Giving 75% of the prize pool to the first place person, especially when the game was still being figured out... eh. Giving like 50k to the top person and addind 2-3k to every spot below that to the top 32 would of helped a lot of people.
SmoKim
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark10305 Posts
February 11 2011 08:35 GMT
#5
wow, fucking awesome that they included other than GSL, was sure they would be to "snobbish" to do that

PROBS to Gom for that, i'm impressed
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iPood
Profile Joined January 2011
United States99 Posts
February 11 2011 08:35 GMT
#6
niceee nestea/fruitdealer z pride
Alphonsse
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States518 Posts
February 11 2011 08:35 GMT
#7
Where's White-Ra? I find it hard to believe he hasn't made more than 7k after his insane results in January.
shindigs
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States4795 Posts
February 11 2011 08:37 GMT
#8
TSL Rain and above actually making a decent living of eSports. Really insane when you think about it all.
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SC Trickster
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark100 Posts
February 11 2011 08:39 GMT
#9
mouz.Naama is the only guy on that list that hasn't participated in GSL right?
LittleAtari
Profile Joined August 2010
Jordan1090 Posts
February 11 2011 08:39 GMT
#10
On February 11 2011 17:37 shindigs wrote:
TSL Rain and above actually making a decent living of eSports. Really insane when you think about it all.

if you consider that it was about 6 months worth of work, I'd say that Rank #12 and up are pretty stable.
Spacekyod
Profile Joined December 2010
United States818 Posts
February 11 2011 08:41 GMT
#11
On February 11 2011 17:35 Alphonsse wrote:
Where's White-Ra? I find it hard to believe he hasn't made more than 7k after his insane results in January.


I second this. I'm guessing that a lot of the smaller tournaments that he's won aren't being taken into by GOM, but still, i'm positive he's won decent money at some more well known tourneys.
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LittleAtari
Profile Joined August 2010
Jordan1090 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-11 08:46:19
February 11 2011 08:41 GMT
#12
On February 11 2011 17:39 SC Trickster wrote:
mouz.Naama is the only guy on that list that hasn't participated in GSL right?

To my knowledge yes, also we can expect earnings to change over the course of this year with foreign tournaments having larger prize pools.

Edit: Nimic, below me pointed out that that fenix is also on the list and hasn't played in a GSL. OP updated.
Nimic
Profile Joined September 2010
Norway1360 Posts
February 11 2011 08:42 GMT
#13
On February 11 2011 17:39 SC Trickster wrote:
mouz.Naama is the only guy on that list that hasn't participated in GSL right?


Fenix as well.
GOMTV
Profile Joined August 2010
Korea (South)84 Posts
February 11 2011 08:44 GMT
#14
This list is to be updated ofc.
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ehcg
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada41 Posts
February 11 2011 08:46 GMT
#15
It's a good list and everything but http://ehcg.djgamblore.com/ has much better info if you are interested in that kind of thing.
Hoju
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States449 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-11 08:50:55
February 11 2011 08:50 GMT
#16
On February 11 2011 17:35 Alphonsse wrote:
Where's White-Ra? I find it hard to believe he hasn't made more than 7k after his insane results in January.

Edit: sniped by ehcg, check out his list, it's very nice and comprehensive

Sjow, Fenix, White-ra, and Naama are actually ahead of both Jinro and IdrA
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RushBoxer!
Profile Joined September 2010
United States173 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-11 08:52:18
February 11 2011 08:50 GMT
#17
I guess it pays to be Terran????

no pun intended

Edit: i just reread this and it's an awful pun. sorry everybody
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danielsan
Profile Joined December 2010
Romania399 Posts
February 11 2011 08:53 GMT
#18
do managers/teams have their share? or does it all go to players (minus taxes ofc)
gwixter
Profile Joined January 2011
Slovakia336 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-11 09:02:41
February 11 2011 08:59 GMT
#19
nuked by self ^^
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Frankon
Profile Joined May 2010
3054 Posts
February 11 2011 09:03 GMT
#20
176 Netherlands Nazgul Liquid $295.00 $130.00 ^^
undyinglight
Profile Joined December 2008
United States611 Posts
February 11 2011 09:05 GMT
#21
SlayerS_BoxeR still such a dominant force after all of this time. Incredible.
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Alethios
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
New Zealand2765 Posts
February 11 2011 09:08 GMT
#22
Huh. Very interesting.

Remember that player's sponsorship and team salary would be separate to tournament winnings. I'd say most players on this list are making a decent living.
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Drake
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany6146 Posts
February 11 2011 09:14 GMT
#23
problem is they only take the BIGGEST events for them

white-ra won alot events with 1-3k price money so he is far ahead and also mana told he earned about 14k in sc2 so far
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imax
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden31 Posts
February 11 2011 09:14 GMT
#24
Do we know anything about sponsorship? except for the big slayers one.
hugman
Profile Joined June 2009
Sweden4644 Posts
February 11 2011 09:18 GMT
#25
SjoW would probably be on the list if all his winnings were counted
SmoKim
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark10305 Posts
February 11 2011 09:20 GMT
#26
On February 11 2011 18:14 CoR wrote:
problem is they only take the BIGGEST events for them

white-ra won alot events with 1-3k price money so he is far ahead and also mana told he earned about 14k in sc2 so far


yes, but the problem is that since the start of beta there has been what thousands of tournaments, big and small, so it's hard to keep up =)
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Striding Strider
Profile Joined February 2011
United Kingdom787 Posts
February 11 2011 09:21 GMT
#27
Nice to see HongUn doing so well. =)
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cuppatea
Profile Joined April 2010
United Kingdom1401 Posts
February 11 2011 09:23 GMT
#28
A top tier BW pro who switched to SC2 as soon as the beta was released could have made an absolute killing by now. Someone like Fantasy could have probably made about $200k in a few months if he'd gone into hardcore SC2 practice made from day 1.
RainWhisper
Profile Joined May 2009
United Arab Emirates333 Posts
February 11 2011 09:23 GMT
#29
Nestea,,why you so good? <3 Nestea
Hi can i get one McGracken please?
branflakes14
Profile Joined July 2010
2082 Posts
February 11 2011 09:25 GMT
#30
Zerg earnings are OP.
disciple
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
9071 Posts
February 11 2011 09:28 GMT
#31
On February 11 2011 18:23 cuppatea wrote:
A top tier BW pro who switched to SC2 as soon as the beta was released could have made an absolute killing by now. Someone like Fantasy could have probably made about $200k in a few months if he'd gone into hardcore SC2 practice made from day 1.


most of the top BW players are doing good enuf already

[image loading]
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Zips
Profile Joined August 2010
United States146 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-12 12:16:07
February 11 2011 09:29 GMT
#32
User was warned for this post

/edit Good luck to all the gsl players

Also, I wonder how much tastosis makes.. I guess posting that would be kind of rude, though.
taichou
Profile Joined February 2010
Lithuania108 Posts
February 11 2011 09:36 GMT
#33
where's MorroW? he won IEM Cologne..
Blaz3k
Profile Joined November 2008
Slovenia71 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-11 09:40:19
February 11 2011 09:39 GMT
#34
This is only money from tournaments, without their salarys right? The numbers are kinda odd tho :D
TheSilverfox
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden1928 Posts
February 11 2011 09:41 GMT
#35
It's a great list but there's a lot of pretty large tournaments that's not included. For instance there's only two IEMs on the list and you can't see IEM Kiev and also some pretty large tournaments like SC2Reddit etc.

I havn't checked it but if you added those tournaments I think that both SjoW and White-Ra would be included in top 20.
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Spiro
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom17 Posts
February 11 2011 09:42 GMT
#36
How does this compare to BW earnings in the same time period? That would be an interesting comparison.
Sub40APM
Profile Joined August 2010
6336 Posts
February 11 2011 09:45 GMT
#37
the disparity between earnings is astonishing. Top 3 made more than a lawyer in a big American law firm [after tax]. Then the next 2 made more than the average income in the United States and another three did pretty well for themselves too.
AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
February 11 2011 09:46 GMT
#38
On February 11 2011 17:46 ehcg wrote:
It's a good list and everything but http://ehcg.djgamblore.com/ has much better info if you are interested in that kind of thing.



That seems to be a much better list.

Longshank
Profile Joined March 2010
1648 Posts
February 11 2011 09:49 GMT
#39
On February 11 2011 18:46 AxionSteel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2011 17:46 ehcg wrote:
It's a good list and everything but http://ehcg.djgamblore.com/ has much better info if you are interested in that kind of thing.



That seems to be a much better list.



Indeed, that list has been around for a while so I don't see the point of releasing a less detailed list.
FractalsOnFire
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Australia1756 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-11 09:56:31
February 11 2011 09:50 GMT
#40
On February 11 2011 18:28 disciple wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2011 18:23 cuppatea wrote:
A top tier BW pro who switched to SC2 as soon as the beta was released could have made an absolute killing by now. Someone like Fantasy could have probably made about $200k in a few months if he'd gone into hardcore SC2 practice made from day 1.


most of the top BW players are doing good enuf already

[image loading]


Wow Ferrari F430 O_O. Is that really real? For some reason it feels shopped... But then again Bisu earned something like 200k just in salary the past few years sooo...

EDIT: Oh its in a photoshoot thread goddamn...

EDIT2: 360 Modena, not a F430
Striding Strider
Profile Joined February 2011
United Kingdom787 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-11 09:55:54
February 11 2011 09:51 GMT
#41
On February 11 2011 18:28 disciple wrote:[image loading]


B I S U number plate LOL
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mapthesoul
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Trinidad/Tobago429 Posts
February 11 2011 09:55 GMT
#42
On February 11 2011 18:51 Striding Strider wrote:
[image loading]

B I S U number plate LOL

Number plate is shopped. :p

[image loading]
disciple
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
9071 Posts
February 11 2011 09:56 GMT
#43
have you ever seen a plate with nothing written on ? your picture is shopped !
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Striding Strider
Profile Joined February 2011
United Kingdom787 Posts
February 11 2011 09:57 GMT
#44
He should soooooo do it.

<3 Bisu.
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alepov
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands1132 Posts
February 11 2011 10:01 GMT
#45
On February 11 2011 18:45 Sub40APM wrote:
the disparity between earnings is astonishing. Top 3 made more than a lawyer in a big American law firm [after tax]. Then the next 2 made more than the average income in the United States and another three did pretty well for themselves too.

top lawyer only makes 100k in usa? :/ thought its the land of golden opportunities and shit
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bigjenk
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1543 Posts
February 11 2011 10:01 GMT
#46
On February 11 2011 18:45 Sub40APM wrote:
the disparity between earnings is astonishing. Top 3 made more than a lawyer in a big American law firm [after tax]. Then the next 2 made more than the average income in the United States and another three did pretty well for themselves too.


Those are first year numbers for graduates from a decent law school, or city or county lawyers. Most private lawyers make 250k+ and partners in major firms 500k+

Wish numbers were more accurate with checking 500-3k tournies as some players have racked up a lot of money nickel and diming around.
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Sub40APM
Profile Joined August 2010
6336 Posts
February 11 2011 10:10 GMT
#47
On February 11 2011 19:01 bigjenk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2011 18:45 Sub40APM wrote:
the disparity between earnings is astonishing. Top 3 made more than a lawyer in a big American law firm [after tax]. Then the next 2 made more than the average income in the United States and another three did pretty well for themselves too.


Those are first year numbers for graduates from a decent law school, or city or county lawyers. Most private lawyers make 250k+ and partners in major firms 500k+

Wish numbers were more accurate with checking 500-3k tournies as some players have racked up a lot of money nickel and diming around.

Those are first year numbers for graduates from a top 10 law school, taking into account taxes. In NYC it would be around 93k actually, if you dont have to pay SS and medicare taxes because you are a foreigner.

Partners in major law firms make a minimum of 800k and up, with the 'best' law firms averaging at around 3 million. But imagine how that skews the overall salary scale. But to make partner, well good luck! out of maybe 100 graduates, maybe 1 or 2 will make it.

MrSexington
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1768 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-11 10:16:16
February 11 2011 10:16 GMT
#48
Why does MVP have less than $87,000?

bigjenk
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1543 Posts
February 11 2011 10:16 GMT
#49
On February 11 2011 19:10 Sub40APM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2011 19:01 bigjenk wrote:
On February 11 2011 18:45 Sub40APM wrote:
the disparity between earnings is astonishing. Top 3 made more than a lawyer in a big American law firm [after tax]. Then the next 2 made more than the average income in the United States and another three did pretty well for themselves too.


Those are first year numbers for graduates from a decent law school, or city or county lawyers. Most private lawyers make 250k+ and partners in major firms 500k+

Wish numbers were more accurate with checking 500-3k tournies as some players have racked up a lot of money nickel and diming around.

Those are first year numbers for graduates from a top 10 law school, taking into account taxes. In NYC it would be around 93k actually, if you dont have to pay SS and medicare taxes because you are a foreigner.

Partners in major law firms make a minimum of 800k and up, with the 'best' law firms averaging at around 3 million. But imagine how that skews the overall salary scale. But to make partner, well good luck! out of maybe 100 graduates, maybe 1 or 2 will make it.



Honestly those numbers include a high number of do gooders who do non profit or government work which pays crap compared to private sector. Would be pretty cool if they had a list as acurate as they do with athletes including endorsements and private appearences.
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NeWnAr
Profile Joined April 2010
Singapore231 Posts
February 11 2011 10:19 GMT
#50
Holy cow Fruitdealer at nearly 100k.
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Sub40APM
Profile Joined August 2010
6336 Posts
February 11 2011 10:19 GMT
#51
On February 11 2011 19:16 bigjenk wrote:

Honestly those numbers include a high number of do gooders who do non profit or government work which pays crap compared to private sector. Would be pretty cool if they had a list as acurate as they do with athletes including endorsements and private appearences.


Someone making 50k on government salary skews the numbers worst than someone making 3 million when the 'median' is at 100k? ^_^
Again, iam talking about people from a top 10 law school where no one voluntarily works for government or non profit stuff [unless its some high end shit that they then parlay into something lucrative].

Plus there is the little matter of those crippling 10% student loans.

Trust me -- being a lawyer in the states, in this economy, is super super overrated. Hence the significantly larger number of alcoholics and drug addicts in the profession as compared to the general population.
Smigi
Profile Joined April 2010
United States328 Posts
February 11 2011 10:31 GMT
#52
On February 11 2011 19:16 MrSexington wrote:
Why does MVP have less than $87,000?



Thats what I was wondering.
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Mithriel
Profile Joined November 2010
Netherlands2969 Posts
February 11 2011 10:33 GMT
#53
#1 in gsl jan, only got 45k orso, unlike the gsl seasons in 2010
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uNiGNoRe
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
Germany1115 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-11 10:34:49
February 11 2011 10:33 GMT
#54
On February 11 2011 19:16 MrSexington wrote:
Why does MVP have less than $87,000?


Because 1st place is 44300$. Only the pre seasons had that much.

For reference
Smigi
Profile Joined April 2010
United States328 Posts
February 11 2011 12:29 GMT
#55
Nestea is making some $$$!!

However, if MVP's earning are calculated into the mix, he would be the highest for sure.
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Tachion
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada8573 Posts
February 11 2011 12:36 GMT
#56
On February 11 2011 21:29 Smigi wrote:
Nestea is making some $$$!!

However, if MVP's earning are calculated into the mix, he would be the highest for sure.

...His earnings are calculated in. Unless he got a small extra amount from the team league, those figures are up to date.
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Profile Joined March 2010
United States2583 Posts
February 11 2011 12:37 GMT
#57
On February 11 2011 19:01 alepov wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2011 18:45 Sub40APM wrote:
the disparity between earnings is astonishing. Top 3 made more than a lawyer in a big American law firm [after tax]. Then the next 2 made more than the average income in the United States and another three did pretty well for themselves too.

top lawyer only makes 100k in usa? :/ thought its the land of golden opportunities and shit

We have a too many lawyers...
Roggay
Profile Joined April 2010
Switzerland6320 Posts
February 11 2011 12:39 GMT
#58
I don't see the point of that list since there is one much more accurate already for some time.
Weavel
Profile Joined January 2010
Finland9223 Posts
February 11 2011 12:46 GMT
#59
On February 11 2011 17:46 ehcg wrote:
It's a good list and everything but http://ehcg.djgamblore.com/ has much better info if you are interested in that kind of thing.
Yeah this list is so much better. Good effort by GOM though.
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MrSexington
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1768 Posts
February 11 2011 12:50 GMT
#60
On February 11 2011 21:46 Weavel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2011 17:46 ehcg wrote:
It's a good list and everything but http://ehcg.djgamblore.com/ has much better info if you are interested in that kind of thing.
Yeah this list is so much better. Good effort by GOM though.


Weird.

Why did some people's earnings go down compared to the GOM list... like everyone in between Jinro and Idra.

O well... doesn't matter.
s.a.y
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Croatia3840 Posts
February 11 2011 13:03 GMT
#61
They need to include cups also.

Zotac handed 40x100 euro, that's not a figure you can just avoid.
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shucklesors
Profile Joined May 2010
Singapore1176 Posts
February 11 2011 13:04 GMT
#62
the Z distribution is kinda funny, 2 at the top, and then ridiculous scarcity.
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Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States792 Posts
February 11 2011 13:08 GMT
#63
On February 11 2011 19:16 MrSexington wrote:
Why does MVP have less than $87,000?



The prize pool for the GSL that he won didn't have a prize of $87,000, I believe only the first one had a prize that high.
Railgan
Profile Joined August 2010
Switzerland1507 Posts
February 11 2011 13:10 GMT
#64
On February 11 2011 22:03 s.a.y wrote:
They need to include cups also.

Zotac handed 40x100 euro, that's not a figure you can just avoid.

That's a whole lot of work to do
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phisku
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Belgium864 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-11 13:11:48
February 11 2011 13:10 GMT
#65
whoops

edit: i'm an idiot.
Razyel
Profile Joined May 2010
295 Posts
February 11 2011 13:13 GMT
#66
White-Ra should be in that top for sure he won in January 2011 3 tournaments in a weekend or something like that and the prize pool for all 3 of them was like 4K euro and second place in IEM Kiev was like 3,5K $ i believe and these are just for January 2011.
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m3rciless
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1476 Posts
February 11 2011 13:24 GMT
#67
On February 11 2011 22:13 Razyel wrote:
White-Ra should be in that top for sure he won in January 2011 3 tournaments in a weekend or something like that and the prize pool for all 3 of them was like 4K euro and second place in IEM Kiev was like 3,5K $ i believe and these are just for January 2011.


Ra only started to make serious bank in 2011, before that he did make something, but apparently not in tournaments that were high-profile enough for the koreans to care about.
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JDestiny
Profile Joined July 2010
Ukraine6 Posts
February 11 2011 13:30 GMT
#68
White-Ra

Clan: Duckload
Winnings: $20,590.00
Best Finish: $5,000.00

Past Results

* 3 Place - BlizzCon - 2010-10-24 - $5,000.00
* 2 Place - IEM European Championships Kiev - 2011-01-23 - $3,500.00
* 1 Place - Homestory Cup #2 - 2011-01-16 - $2,275.00
* 1 Place - ROOT Warzone - 2011-01-16 - $2,000.00
* 1 Place - HDH Invitational - 2010-05-23 - $2,000.00
* 1 Place - Global Gamers Invitational - 2010-12-05 - $1,400.00
* 1 Place - SC Reddit Invitational - 2011-01-16 - $1,200.00
* 1 Place - ESL Go4SC2 - 2010-04-30 - $650.00
* 1 Place - Altitude TL Invitational - 2010-05-29 - $600.00
* 9-12 Place - IEM Global Challenge Cologne - 2010-08-22 - $400.00
* 1 Place - GosuCoaching Tour of Duty EU #1 - 2010-12-03 - $330.00
* 1 Place - TeamLiquid SC2 Invitational #1 - 2010-03-27 - $300.00
* 1 Place - Cerberus 3D Cup #2 - 2010-12-04 - $195.00
* 1 Place - Gosucoaching KOTH Showdown White-Ra v. Assem - 2010-04-24 - $150.00
* 1 Place - ESL Go4SC2 - 2010-04-10 - $130.00
* 1 Place - ESL Go4SC2 - 2010-08-08 - $130.00
* 1 Place - TeamSpeak TL Open #11 - 2011-01-29 - $100.00
* 1 Place - SC2Vision Showmatch White-Ra v. Dimaga - 2010-11-12 - $100.00
* 3 Place - 4Player Close Combat Cup - 2010-10-18 - $65.00
* 3 Place - 4Player Close Combat Cup - 2010-12-30 - $65.00
LittleAtari
Profile Joined August 2010
Jordan1090 Posts
February 11 2011 13:31 GMT
#69
i updated the Op with ehcg rankings for those who wanted to know based on more events. It does change things but also note that it takes over a larger time period too.
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
February 11 2011 13:33 GMT
#70
Top 5 (comprehensive) foreigner earnings:

SjoW: $22,690.00
Fenix: $21,045.00
White-Ra: $20,590.00
Naama: $19,480.00
Jinro: $19,375.00

===

Cool of GOM to post a major tournament list though =)
shaunnn
Profile Joined October 2010
Ireland1230 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-11 13:40:12
February 11 2011 13:36 GMT
#71
On February 11 2011 22:33 Asha` wrote:
Top 5 (comprehensive) foreigner earnings:

SjoW: $22,690.00
Fenix: $21,045.00
White-Ra: $20,590.00
Naama: $19,480.00
Jinro: $19,375.00

===

Cool of GOM to post a major tournament list though =)


Interesting to see jinro only nr5 and idra not there even though he won an mlg and has been in every single gsl and is s class, fenix seems to come top3 every single tournament hes in and white-ra and sjow are white-ra and sjow and i guess dreamhack is the only thing keeping naama in top5

Also highest american not in korea is qxc at 33 wow, i guess most of NA's talent is canadian
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mmdmmd
Profile Joined June 2007
722 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-11 13:40:00
February 11 2011 13:38 GMT
#72
edit
MrSexington
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1768 Posts
February 11 2011 13:40 GMT
#73
On February 11 2011 22:31 LittleAtari wrote:
i updated the Op with ehcg rankings for those who wanted to know based on more events. It does change things but also note that it takes over a larger time period too.


I'm still not sure why players like Kyrix, Boxer, Loner, and Ensnare have decreased earnings in the EHCG list. It's supposed to contain more tournament earnings over a longer period of time, yes?
BroodjeBaller
Profile Joined January 2011
125 Posts
February 11 2011 13:48 GMT
#74
I guess this list is excluding sponsorships and team salary?
Keitzer
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2509 Posts
February 11 2011 13:56 GMT
#75
That's a ridiculous amount of money for playing a game... Even if people like NesTea and FruitDealer quit for a year, they still have money left over
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floor exercise
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada5847 Posts
February 11 2011 13:56 GMT
#76
Anyone else find it kind of strange for GOM to put this out there? Are they trying to attract players or something?
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-11 14:01:08
February 11 2011 14:00 GMT
#77
On February 11 2011 22:56 floor exercise wrote:
Anyone else find it kind of strange for GOM to put this out there? Are they trying to attract players or something?


I would imagine this would have the opposite effect. It shows how meaningless not placing top 4 is in GSL and thus how lopsided GSL prize distribution is. For many players it's just a massive pay cut to go to GSL. So no, I doubt GOM is doing this to try market themselves. If they were they would make Code A have some actual security(Money) for players and cut a bit off the top 2.

Anyway super interesting to see Fenix there. Didn't think he managed to win that much cash. I mean he's an awesome player but just didn't imagine that.
Amanitar
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands26 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-11 14:19:40
February 11 2011 14:15 GMT
#78
If MVP's GSL win would have been counted he would've had like 140k.

Edit: Nevermind, he just won less money in his GSL win than the others had.
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shaunnn
Profile Joined October 2010
Ireland1230 Posts
February 11 2011 14:37 GMT
#79
On February 11 2011 23:00 Numy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2011 22:56 floor exercise wrote:
Anyone else find it kind of strange for GOM to put this out there? Are they trying to attract players or something?


I would imagine this would have the opposite effect. It shows how meaningless not placing top 4 is in GSL and thus how lopsided GSL prize distribution is. For many players it's just a massive pay cut to go to GSL. So no, I doubt GOM is doing this to try market themselves. If they were they would make Code A have some actual security(Money) for players and cut a bit off the top 2.

Anyway super interesting to see Fenix there. Didn't think he managed to win that much cash. I mean he's an awesome player but just didn't imagine that.


Well he did go under the radar with his 3rd at dreamhack and first at the gamegune tournament that no one went to with a 20k prizepool, that+ iem northamerica is pretty huge when u actually think about it
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floor exercise
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada5847 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-11 14:44:51
February 11 2011 14:43 GMT
#80
On February 11 2011 23:00 Numy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2011 22:56 floor exercise wrote:
Anyone else find it kind of strange for GOM to put this out there? Are they trying to attract players or something?


I would imagine this would have the opposite effect. It shows how meaningless not placing top 4 is in GSL and thus how lopsided GSL prize distribution is. For many players it's just a massive pay cut to go to GSL. So no, I doubt GOM is doing this to try market themselves. If they were they would make Code A have some actual security(Money) for players and cut a bit off the top 2.

Anyway super interesting to see Fenix there. Didn't think he managed to win that much cash. I mean he's an awesome player but just didn't imagine that.


I agree that it likely has the opposite effect, I am just curious what their intention was in posting it. GSL doesn't even pay the 87k for first place anymore that put the top players where they are on the list.

I am just curious why GOM themselves would add up everyones winnings and publicize it, and adjusting it to USD, obviously for the consumption of the foreign audience. Are they trying to attract more foreigners or something?
m3rciless
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1476 Posts
February 11 2011 14:52 GMT
#81
Lol jinro right above idra in the corrected earnings list. GOTTA STING!
White-Ra fighting!
sudzy
Profile Joined October 2010
United States58 Posts
February 11 2011 14:57 GMT
#82
That's an awfully bad way to make a living...If your not @ the top of the heap, ramen noodle time!
Old, slow, and bald...
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
February 11 2011 15:09 GMT
#83
That list is very inaccurate in terms of money earned by foreigners.
danl9rm
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States3111 Posts
February 11 2011 15:18 GMT
#84
On February 11 2011 19:16 MrSexington wrote:
Why does MVP have less than $87,000?



All the GSL winners get prorated according to their race. Terran gets the least, obviously.
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CTStalker
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Canada9720 Posts
February 11 2011 15:26 GMT
#85
On February 11 2011 23:43 floor exercise wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2011 23:00 Numy wrote:
On February 11 2011 22:56 floor exercise wrote:
Anyone else find it kind of strange for GOM to put this out there? Are they trying to attract players or something?


I would imagine this would have the opposite effect. It shows how meaningless not placing top 4 is in GSL and thus how lopsided GSL prize distribution is. For many players it's just a massive pay cut to go to GSL. So no, I doubt GOM is doing this to try market themselves. If they were they would make Code A have some actual security(Money) for players and cut a bit off the top 2.

Anyway super interesting to see Fenix there. Didn't think he managed to win that much cash. I mean he's an awesome player but just didn't imagine that.


I agree that it likely has the opposite effect, I am just curious what their intention was in posting it. GSL doesn't even pay the 87k for first place anymore that put the top players where they are on the list.

I am just curious why GOM themselves would add up everyones winnings and publicize it, and adjusting it to USD, obviously for the consumption of the foreign audience. Are they trying to attract more foreigners or something?

it can be explained by looking at other professional tournament sports -- both golf and tennis supply these sorts of lists regularly, even though, for a given tournament, the majority of the money on the list didn't come from the present tournament's sponsors. they're just promoting the money that sponsors put into sc2
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tGFuRy
Profile Joined September 2010
United States537 Posts
February 11 2011 15:34 GMT
#86
On February 11 2011 23:57 sudzy wrote:
That's an awfully bad way to make a living...If your not @ the top of the heap, ramen noodle time!

lol thats why most people have a back up plan.
Always a Gamer
TheLight
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia410 Posts
February 11 2011 15:59 GMT
#87
On February 11 2011 23:57 sudzy wrote:
That's an awfully bad way to make a living...If your not @ the top of the heap, ramen noodle time!


Do remember that most gamers listed are sponsored to some degree. For instance if a player is in a Korean team, they have no expenditure except for luxuries and entertainment. So everything you get from prizes is yours to spend.

In a standard job you have to pay for your house, water, gas, electricity, food, wife, transport etc.
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cordlc
Profile Joined November 2010
United States360 Posts
February 11 2011 16:01 GMT
#88
Though Idra's total winnings seems low, you can see on the ehcg list how his highest earnings from a tournament is only ~$2600. Besides him, none of the players around the top have anything below $4k until Socke, at #25.

Thought that was interesting
CrayonKing
Profile Joined August 2010
Cambodia124 Posts
February 11 2011 16:06 GMT
#89
tbh I'd say only 50k and above would be considered decent...yeah I understand its only been 6 months but you cannot really assume they'll earn double the amount.

Yes if your the top of the pact (top 5) you are doing really well (100k is a very good amount for esports + sponsorship ) but if you consider the amount of people playing sc2 versus the amount actually getting paid its actually pretty bad. The 20th highest paid player is only getting 10k?? That is the 20th player out of the how many thousands (maybe hundreds if you only include those who've dedicated their life to this game)

Yeah it'd be a sick experience and lots of fun but @ the end of the day not practical. just my opinion tho.
imyzhang
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada809 Posts
February 11 2011 16:07 GMT
#90
cmonnn tester, gotta bring home that bacon.
bleh
Logo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States7542 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-11 16:52:29
February 11 2011 16:51 GMT
#91
On February 12 2011 01:06 CrayonKing wrote:
tbh I'd say only 50k and above would be considered decent...yeah I understand its only been 6 months but you cannot really assume they'll earn double the amount.

Yes if your the top of the pact (top 5) you are doing really well (100k is a very good amount for esports + sponsorship ) but if you consider the amount of people playing sc2 versus the amount actually getting paid its actually pretty bad. The 20th highest paid player is only getting 10k?? That is the 20th player out of the how many thousands (maybe hundreds if you only include those who've dedicated their life to this game)

Yeah it'd be a sick experience and lots of fun but @ the end of the day not practical. just my opinion tho.


Tournament winnings also aren't 100% of your income though. For many of the top players they have team provided housing (and/or food, I dunno how it works) which accounts for a lot as well as money from their team, their sponsors, streaming and coaching.

That's not to say it's a great sum of money for anyone past the top 10-20 people, but these numbers don't reflect the entirety of the situation.
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Ome
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada157 Posts
February 11 2011 17:42 GMT
#92
On February 12 2011 01:06 CrayonKing wrote:

Yeah it'd be a sick experience and lots of fun but @ the end of the day not practical. just my opinion tho.


While true, it's like many competitive sports in the world. It's the same for football, baseball, soccer, hockey etc, hundreds of thousands of people play those sports, many hoping to get paid to do so, but there's only so much room at the top (for example there are currently 1300 players in MLB, and it's estimated that something like 42 million people play baseball in America).

Of course, pro sports players get paid a hell of a lot more then Nestea or MVP, but at the same time, almost every major sport has existed for atleast 50 years, with many much older then that (100 years or more). In the NHL, the average salary for players in 2008 was 1.9 million, while in 1960 it was $25000 (around 160k today) for the best players. The best players in hockey make over 7 million.

Give it time and I think there will be much more money to go around, but still only for the very best.
ehcg
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada41 Posts
February 11 2011 18:21 GMT
#93
To answer the questions about why Koreans seem to have lower income on my site than on the GOM rankings, I would assume it is based on a difference in exchange rate when converting the currencies.
Ownos
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2147 Posts
February 11 2011 21:19 GMT
#94
$10K is minumum wage in some US states. Good enough to live on (nothing luxrious, but you can support yourself.. just yourself though). If it's true some of these guys do not pay for their upkeep that should definitely be a huge plus. What's the cost of living in Korea anyway? That's pretty good for 6 months of playing video games. I'd rather do that than slave over at a burger joint or something.

But yeah the GSL 1st place finish is so lopsided. It's not like anyone can consistently get 1st place. But at least if you do hit first it's good enough to live off of for a couple years assuming you don't go on a shopping spree and don't earn anything else. So you could then keep playing professionally and earn a few extra bucks from a couple 4th place finishes or something.
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blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
February 11 2011 21:21 GMT
#95
Wow Jinro's made 20 grand in the past 3 months? thats sick lol.
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chenchen
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1136 Posts
February 11 2011 21:30 GMT
#96
On February 12 2011 06:19 Ownos wrote:
$10K is minumum wage in some US states. Good enough to live on (nothing luxrious, but you can support yourself.. just yourself though). If it's true some of these guys do not pay for their upkeep that should definitely be a huge plus. What's the cost of living in Korea anyway? That's pretty good for 6 months of playing video games. I'd rather do that than slave over at a burger joint or something.

But yeah the GSL 1st place finish is so lopsided. It's not like anyone can consistently get 1st place. But at least if you do hit first it's good enough to live off of for a couple years assuming you don't go on a shopping spree and don't earn anything else. So you could then keep playing professionally and earn a few extra bucks from a couple 4th place finishes or something.


I believe that Seoul (where most progamers live) rank consistently in the top ten for cities with highest cost of living.
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Raiznhell
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada786 Posts
February 11 2011 23:21 GMT
#97
I think it kinda sucks that 1st prize is so overwhelmingly larger than 2nd and the rest of the prizes. Especially being as high as it is when a game isn't perfectly balanced yet. Batting thousands and thousands on chance for 1st place this early is a good way to scare a lot of players out of staying in Korea to play.
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m3rciless
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1476 Posts
February 11 2011 23:24 GMT
#98
On February 12 2011 06:30 chenchen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2011 06:19 Ownos wrote:
$10K is minumum wage in some US states. Good enough to live on (nothing luxrious, but you can support yourself.. just yourself though). If it's true some of these guys do not pay for their upkeep that should definitely be a huge plus. What's the cost of living in Korea anyway? That's pretty good for 6 months of playing video games. I'd rather do that than slave over at a burger joint or something.

But yeah the GSL 1st place finish is so lopsided. It's not like anyone can consistently get 1st place. But at least if you do hit first it's good enough to live off of for a couple years assuming you don't go on a shopping spree and don't earn anything else. So you could then keep playing professionally and earn a few extra bucks from a couple 4th place finishes or something.


I believe that Seoul (where most progamers live) rank consistently in the top ten for cities with highest cost of living.


for a normal person maybe. Living in a teamhouse, your cost of living is as low as your threshold for shitty food, pretty much.

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fishinguy
Profile Joined November 2010
Russian Federation798 Posts
February 11 2011 23:31 GMT
#99
Wow, I didnt understand being a sc2 pro gamer could be this bad, especially out of korea. Even in korea you need to be top 10 to get a decent ammount of money. I doubt sponsor money is enough to live on outside of korea and I dont know how these guys manage on minimum wage.
chenchen
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1136 Posts
February 11 2011 23:41 GMT
#100
On February 12 2011 08:24 m3rciless wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2011 06:30 chenchen wrote:
On February 12 2011 06:19 Ownos wrote:
$10K is minumum wage in some US states. Good enough to live on (nothing luxrious, but you can support yourself.. just yourself though). If it's true some of these guys do not pay for their upkeep that should definitely be a huge plus. What's the cost of living in Korea anyway? That's pretty good for 6 months of playing video games. I'd rather do that than slave over at a burger joint or something.

But yeah the GSL 1st place finish is so lopsided. It's not like anyone can consistently get 1st place. But at least if you do hit first it's good enough to live off of for a couple years assuming you don't go on a shopping spree and don't earn anything else. So you could then keep playing professionally and earn a few extra bucks from a couple 4th place finishes or something.


I believe that Seoul (where most progamers live) rank consistently in the top ten for cities with highest cost of living.


for a normal person maybe. Living in a teamhouse, your cost of living is as low as your threshold for shitty food, pretty much.


Lol . . anyone that's been to the oGs-TL house can tell you that the maids there cook pretty good food. Even in documentaries about BW prohouses, you can see that the food is pretty typical tasty Korean food.
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Char711
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States862 Posts
February 11 2011 23:44 GMT
#101
Naama, proving esports is legitimate outside of Korea since 2010. (This, just by itself, causes him to rise up in my esteem considerably. Such a good example).

Still, loving the absolutely massive slope on that graph. It's akin to taking a running start, jumping off a cliff and then face-planting at the bottom.
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Euronyme
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden3804 Posts
February 11 2011 23:46 GMT
#102
http://ehcg.djgamblore.com/compare.php?field=country
wow... Sweden is on second place behind Korea in most money earned... that's pretty insane.
I bet i can maı̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̨̨̨̨̨̨ke you wipe your screen.
KevinIX
Profile Joined October 2009
United States2472 Posts
February 11 2011 23:47 GMT
#103
Dreamhack had a ton of money last year. But MLG this year is going to totally outdo it. Can't wait for SC2 in 2011.
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kdmx
Profile Joined April 2010
United States23 Posts
February 11 2011 23:47 GMT
#104
On February 12 2011 06:19 Ownos wrote:
$10K is minumum wage in some US states. Good enough to live on (nothing luxrious, but you can support yourself.. just yourself though). If it's true some of these guys do not pay for their upkeep that should definitely be a huge plus. What's the cost of living in Korea anyway? That's pretty good for 6 months of playing video games. I'd rather do that than slave over at a burger joint or something.

But yeah the GSL 1st place finish is so lopsided. It's not like anyone can consistently get 1st place. But at least if you do hit first it's good enough to live off of for a couple years assuming you don't go on a shopping spree and don't earn anything else. So you could then keep playing professionally and earn a few extra bucks from a couple 4th place finishes or something.


Which states would these be? I remember making about $30k a year out of college and I could barely live on that.
Euronyme
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden3804 Posts
February 11 2011 23:47 GMT
#105
On February 12 2011 08:44 Char711 wrote:
Naama, proving esports is legitimate outside of Korea since 2010. (This, just by itself, causes him to rise up in my esteem considerably. Such a good example).

Still, loving the absolutely massive slope on that graph. It's akin to taking a running start, jumping off a cliff and then face-planting at the bottom.


Well, if you check a more updated list, you see that WhiteRa, Fenix and Sjow are ahead of naama.
I bet i can maı̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̨̨̨̨̨̨ke you wipe your screen.
Char711
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States862 Posts
February 11 2011 23:51 GMT
#106
On February 12 2011 08:46 Euronyme wrote:
http://ehcg.djgamblore.com/compare.php?field=country
wow... Sweden is on second place behind Korea in most money earned... that's pretty insane.

Yet entirely expected. Sweden dominates so much! (<3 you guys!)

I feel like, even when Jinro isn't involved, there is always a good Swedish player around in most tournaments.
"If you can chill, chill." -Liquid`Tyler "Special tactics." -White-Ra
Char711
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States862 Posts
February 11 2011 23:54 GMT
#107
On February 12 2011 08:47 Euronyme wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2011 08:44 Char711 wrote:
Naama, proving esports is legitimate outside of Korea since 2010. (This, just by itself, causes him to rise up in my esteem considerably. Such a good example).

Still, loving the absolutely massive slope on that graph. It's akin to taking a running start, jumping off a cliff and then face-planting at the bottom.


Well, if you check a more updated list, you see that WhiteRa, Fenix and Sjow are ahead of naama.

I should clarify.

Naama is, out of those, one of the ones I've heard about the least from America. WhiteRa and Fenix are the ones I've seen the most games of and SjoW has been brought up so often simply because I saw him in a lot of early tournaments and he's been doing so well lately.

So, even with that updated list, I feel like Naama is a good example for a relatively "mid-tier" player that has been doing pretty damn well for himself. I don't been that Naama isn't good, because he's awesome, but more that I feel he's just a notch below that "elite" level that players like WhiteRa are on.

Is this just my perception or do other people see it in the same way? Maybe I'm just not watching enough EU stuff.
"If you can chill, chill." -Liquid`Tyler "Special tactics." -White-Ra
Euronyme
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden3804 Posts
February 11 2011 23:54 GMT
#108
And for all the people saying it's too little.
Imagine playing proffessional football. You're probably gonna make less than a hobo just from winning tournaments, but the team (ie sponsors) give a pretty badass salary. Bet we're gonna see alot of team shirts with duck sperm (duckload lmao) and whatnot on them pretty soon.
For instance TL is only (as far as I know) sponsored by TLAF. Imagine if they had like 5 mainstream companies sponsoring tem.. would be pretty awesome
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TheWarbler
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1659 Posts
February 12 2011 00:07 GMT
#109
I really wonder how much they are taxed on winning. Like how much did MVP acutally get from the prize money from Code S
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BrenttheGreat
Profile Joined July 2010
United States150 Posts
February 12 2011 00:10 GMT
#110
Unless you are in the top 8 best players in the world you stand no chance playing the game for a living without living in your Mothers basement. Sad.
Kamais_Ookin
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada4218 Posts
February 12 2011 00:16 GMT
#111
That's a lot of money in total, thanks for data!
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Turgid
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1623 Posts
February 12 2011 00:21 GMT
#112
On February 12 2011 09:10 BrenttheGreat wrote:
Unless you are in the top 8 best players in the world you stand no chance playing the game for a living without living in your Mothers basement. Sad.


Well, more likely you're just gonna live in a team house either way, so...
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Taylor Hall
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada44 Posts
February 12 2011 00:24 GMT
#113
On February 12 2011 02:42 Ome wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2011 01:06 CrayonKing wrote:

Yeah it'd be a sick experience and lots of fun but @ the end of the day not practical. just my opinion tho.


While true, it's like many competitive sports in the world. It's the same for football, baseball, soccer, hockey etc, hundreds of thousands of people play those sports, many hoping to get paid to do so, but there's only so much room at the top (for example there are currently 1300 players in MLB, and it's estimated that something like 42 million people play baseball in America).

Of course, pro sports players get paid a hell of a lot more then Nestea or MVP, but at the same time, almost every major sport has existed for atleast 50 years, with many much older then that (100 years or more). In the NHL, the average salary for players in 2008 was 1.9 million, while in 1960 it was $25000 (around 160k today) for the best players. The best players in hockey make over 7 million.

Give it time and I think there will be much more money to go around, but still only for the very best.

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SexyHyung
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
42 Posts
February 12 2011 00:35 GMT
#114
i think you also have to consider sponsorships and stuff, such as if they are getting paid for being on a team, for instance wasn't boxer getting like 180k sponsorship or something? that would put him on top
Offhand
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1869 Posts
February 12 2011 00:49 GMT
#115
On February 12 2011 09:35 SexyHyung wrote:
i think you also have to consider sponsorships and stuff, such as if they are getting paid for being on a team, for instance wasn't boxer getting like 180k sponsorship or something? that would put him on top


I think this is in winnings. Not player sponsorship/salaries.
happyness
Profile Joined June 2010
United States2400 Posts
February 12 2011 00:55 GMT
#116
On February 12 2011 02:42 Ome wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2011 01:06 CrayonKing wrote:

Yeah it'd be a sick experience and lots of fun but @ the end of the day not practical. just my opinion tho.


While true, it's like many competitive sports in the world. It's the same for football, baseball, soccer, hockey etc, hundreds of thousands of people play those sports, many hoping to get paid to do so, but there's only so much room at the top (for example there are currently 1300 players in MLB, and it's estimated that something like 42 million people play baseball in America).

Of course, pro sports players get paid a hell of a lot more then Nestea or MVP, but at the same time, almost every major sport has existed for atleast 50 years, with many much older then that (100 years or more). In the NHL, the average salary for players in 2008 was 1.9 million, while in 1960 it was $25000 (around 160k today) for the best players. The best players in hockey make over 7 million.

Give it time and I think there will be much more money to go around, but still only for the very best.


But the way the current system is with soooo much money at the top of tournaments often times the best players can get a string of bad luck and be eliminated early on. It's only bo3 after all.

But at least it's not as ridiculous as the first 2 seasons. The prize earnings have evened out a bit.
ehcg
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada41 Posts
February 12 2011 01:15 GMT
#117
I'm going to start tweeting updates to the site as I make them because why not since I check twitter all day. So @thisisehcg should have future updates in terms of functionality.
shaunnn
Profile Joined October 2010
Ireland1230 Posts
February 12 2011 01:24 GMT
#118
On February 12 2011 10:15 ehcg wrote:
I'm going to start tweeting updates to the site as I make them because why not since I check twitter all day. So @thisisehcg should have future updates in terms of functionality.


Awesome initiative to start the site btw
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DrainX
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Sweden3187 Posts
February 12 2011 01:39 GMT
#119
On February 12 2011 09:10 BrenttheGreat wrote:
Unless you are in the top 8 best players in the world you stand no chance playing the game for a living without living in your Mothers basement. Sad.

That's not really true. If you are among the ~50-100 best players in the world and get sponsored into a korean team house, the sponsors will pay for your food and house. You don't really need that much to make a living on top of that. I bet team houses will start popping up in Europe soon too and we will see a similar development there.
BluePabs
Profile Joined November 2010
United States317 Posts
February 12 2011 02:32 GMT
#120
Thanks for posting this. I was always curious to how much they were actually making and it must feel pretty good to be Nestea right now.
1Eris1
Profile Joined September 2010
United States5797 Posts
February 12 2011 02:38 GMT
#121
People also forget this is by no means the sole income for players.
Think of sponserships/coaching/advertisement/ and even donations
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FlamingTurd
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1059 Posts
February 12 2011 03:15 GMT
#122
Wow, that's pretty cool to see all those numbers for once. However it is pretty disappointing to see how few players have actually earned almost any real money at all. Remember how many hundreds and thousands of hours these people spend on practicing etc. Wish there were a lot more people earning a lot more money than this in SC2.
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ehcg
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada41 Posts
February 12 2011 05:43 GMT
#123
I've created a new page based on a summary post that someone posted earlier in another thread

http://ehcg.djgamblore.com/rankings.php

It is a weighted ranking of results over time - More recent results are weighted higher than old results. This is similar to the way that KESPA ranks BroodWar players, although they rank based on wins and not prize money and it takes longer for results to drop off.

Is this something people are interested in?
slained
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada966 Posts
February 12 2011 05:56 GMT
#124
Yes ehcg, this is really really cool. I can see a lot more tournaments you can add and stuff

(woot at being #322)
ehcg
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada41 Posts
February 12 2011 06:00 GMT
#125
Yeah I'm going to add a form to let people tell me about events that are missing at some point in the future.
skrzmark
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1528 Posts
February 12 2011 06:43 GMT
#126
wheres the Nestea sponsorship from Nestea????!!
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Phanekim
Profile Joined April 2003
United States777 Posts
February 12 2011 10:58 GMT
#127
interesting post. it seems like the payouts are way too topheavy. it just doesn't seem fair. if its too topheavy this pretty much kills the progaming scene. but i guess they want to make it exciting cuz there's more "at stake". which is bs. unless there's a more progressive structure there's little incentive for there to be players.
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AF Essence
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1 Post
Last Edited: 2011-02-13 00:27:57
February 13 2011 00:27 GMT
#128
INSANE WARP-PRISM MICRO?12:37


How Do You Do That?

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Chicane
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7875 Posts
February 13 2011 00:32 GMT
#129
Very cool! I'm glad it's not just the GSL. I hope to see more of these in the future.
Sc2ttyl
Profile Joined October 2010
United States245 Posts
February 13 2011 02:21 GMT
#130
hehe zergs make the most and complain the most ! i love that
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Cobbbler
Profile Joined July 2010
United States60 Posts
February 13 2011 10:27 GMT
#131
It's awesome that the 3 at the top of that list are all invites for the TSL. All we need is MVP and every GSL champion will be in the TSL as well. Whoever is putting that together is doing an amazing job.
SmoKim
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark10305 Posts
February 13 2011 10:31 GMT
#132
On February 13 2011 09:27 AF Essence wrote:
INSANE WARP-PRISM MICRO?12:37
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2mAcMzrqvk

How Do You Do That?


that is just ridiculous o_0 wtf?!
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andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
April 07 2011 18:31 GMT
#133
This is just in tournament winnings in a new scene. Compare that to the tournament winnings + salary + sponsorships in an established one like BW.
Turgid
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1623 Posts
April 07 2011 18:33 GMT
#134
On April 08 2011 03:31 andrewlt wrote:
This is just in tournament winnings in a new scene. Compare that to the tournament winnings + salary + sponsorships in an established one like BW.


Interesting bump. I thought the chart in the OP was recent, was wondering how the fuck MC had less than 100k.
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Alejandrisha
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6565 Posts
April 07 2011 18:48 GMT
#135
On February 12 2011 08:46 Euronyme wrote:
http://ehcg.djgamblore.com/compare.php?field=country
wow... Sweden is on second place behind Korea in most money earned... that's pretty insane.


not insane at all! jinro, morrow, sjow, haypro, naniwa, thorzain.. do you need more??

What's insane in that the avg winnings for swedish players is only 900 less than for korean players.
Another outlier is Peru, but they really only have one player.
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Parodoxx
Profile Joined May 2010
United States549 Posts
April 07 2011 18:51 GMT
#136
Wow Idra, everyone has the bulk of their pay come from 1 tournament win but Idra does not, he just wins a lot of small stuff I guess?
andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
April 07 2011 19:20 GMT
#137
On April 08 2011 03:33 Turgid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2011 03:31 andrewlt wrote:
This is just in tournament winnings in a new scene. Compare that to the tournament winnings + salary + sponsorships in an established one like BW.


Interesting bump. I thought the chart in the OP was recent, was wondering how the fuck MC had less than 100k.



Yeah, oops. I thought the OP was being updated with the results from that other site.
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