EPTOn February 07 2011 06:13 k!llua wrote:
running for a spot on the writer's team i see; good luck
running for a spot on the writer's team i see; good luck
this; great writeup
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anatem
Romania1369 Posts
this; great writeup | ||
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Trion
Canada291 Posts
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zev318
Canada4306 Posts
even if they really pay 200k a year to the average gamer, which i dunno, seems really out there. if u had a 10 player team, that's only 2 million. salary i would think is where the majority of the cost come from. as the players all live together, i think travel/living expenses wouldn't be as much as it would if they lived apart. looking at these gaming house videos, it's not like the progamers are living in a mansion with swimming pools. they're mostly just living in a big apartment, obviously i dunno the price of such apartments in seoul, but i can't imagine it costing that much to rent per year (or buy). | ||
bkrow
Australia8532 Posts
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weeA
India442 Posts
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Canada3336 Posts
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United States129 Posts
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Arcanewinds
United Kingdom197 Posts
On February 08 2011 01:12 Protoss_Carrier wrote: I only read the first paragraph due to constraint of time, but if you are trying to introduce someone who is new to the scene, you may not want to use term like "Terran macro player". WTF is terran, or macro player? Terran is one of the races of starcraft, macro is economy, unit production, spending money efficiently. So he is a Terran player who is known for having a good economy, spending his money effeciently and coming out with insane amounts of units in order to win. Micro players focus on controlling small groups of units to do as much damage as possible in order to take the game. Tbh, seeing as the article is based on starcraft, these two terms are pretty common within the topic and are expected to be known among 99% of the readers. Edit: I just read over the article again, and it even says what Terran is after first referencing it. Readers with a good understanding of English could probably decipher what macro means. | ||
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Mandalor
Germany2362 Posts
On February 08 2011 01:18 Arcanewinds wrote: Terran is one of the races of starcraft, macro is economy, unit production, spending money efficiently. So he is a Terran player who is known for having a good economy, spending his money effeciently and coming out with insane amounts of units in order to win. Micro players focus on controlling small groups of units to do as much damage as possible in order to take the game. Tbh, seeing as the article is based on starcraft, these two terms are pretty common within the topic and are expected to be known among 99% of the readers. Edit: I just read over the article again, and it even says what Terran is after first referencing it. Readers with a good understanding of English could probably decipher what macro means. Seeing as this is a starcraft forum and the guy you replied to calls himself "Protoss_Carrier", he most likely knows what a terran macro player is lol. What he wanted to say is if he wants his text to appeal to people who have no idea what starcraft is, you don't want to throw around game specific terms in the first paragraph. | ||
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MHT
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Oxb
199 Posts
Hope SC2 can grow in Korea and slowly, by increasing it's skill etc, take over SC:BW. Korea all the way! | ||
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Oxb
199 Posts
On February 07 2011 06:46 zev318 wrote: 20 million USD a year to run a team, really? even if they really pay 200k a year to the average gamer, which i dunno, seems really out there. if u had a 10 player team, that's only 2 million. salary i would think is where the majority of the cost come from. as the players all live together, i think travel/living expenses wouldn't be as much as it would if they lived apart. looking at these gaming house videos, it's not like the progamers are living in a mansion with swimming pools. they're mostly just living in a big apartment, obviously i dunno the price of such apartments in seoul, but i can't imagine it costing that much to rent per year (or buy). Sorry what?... Clearly you are knew to 'truelly proffesional gaming :-) 20milion USD for a SC:BW team, easily. Edit: costs for example include: players salary, bonusses, rent/food/living costs/gym cost (no, players don't pay that by them selves), managers get a salary too, teams are easily up to 15, maybe 20 people, rent, electricity, best internet available, traveling costs, in case of international events: traveling fee, hotel fee, tournament participation fees (also goes for Korean tournaments), etc.. :-) | ||
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Mr.Pyro
Denmark959 Posts
I know that BW in fact sold 11 million copies. Maybe you got them mixed up? | ||
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Mr.Pyro
Denmark959 Posts
On February 07 2011 05:27 yejin wrote: I remember reading it years ago, it isn't yours, is it ? More info on this please? | ||
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Deckkie
Netherlands1595 Posts
enjoyed it a lot and very interesting. Thanls a lot for all the trouble! :D | ||
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weeA
India442 Posts
I will work on some more stuff!!! Thanks you all again!!!! People who think i just copy pasted it then well I gave u my reference list . | ||
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