.. Is a new channel started on the EU server. People have been playing and coaching each other for a while now, I joined during the weekend that passed, and in that short time I learned so much I can't believe it. Right now I'm watiitng for a match on Shakuras to start, and 9 spectators are about to watch, and most of these players are bronze to gold, all learning from each other.

so, in short, if u want to join the channel, please do, if only to spectate or even play a game or two, we welcome you gladly.

Keitzer

United States2509 Posts

January 17 2011 20:05 GMT

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=183961

post it there

Ingebrigtsen

Norway343 Posts

January 17 2011 22:00 GMT

Thanks man, already got a few new chatties cause of that and this post, Team liquid <3

Janaros

United Kingdom58 Posts

January 18 2011 12:28 GMT

This channel is open for everyone. It's intended for the help of lower level players, but the community there is awesome, and like yesterday we played some Raynor party at 5am. So much fun.

We also had some Diamond v Diamond and Masters v Diamond show matches, with bronze people watching and learning. After the game the higher tier players told the bronze players what to look at in their play. I've also agreed to look at the replays of some newer players, helping them find what to improve upon.

Thing is, the whole "BUILD WORKERS AND SUPPLY" advice is sound and all, but for a newer player that's like yelling "FLAP YER BLOODY ARMS AND LEGS" when they're drowning.

I was also thinking about organizing some sort of "newbie team battles". As an example, Me and Eldrythan (masters and Diamond), will be taking 3 bronze-gold leaguers, and battling them against each other, while giving feedback and help at the same time. This will familiarize the newer players with some healthy competition, making the ladder a less scary experience.

We were even thinking about setting up some Skype/TeamSpeak/Ventrilo groups in order to help people real time.

Personally, I think that this channel is one of the best things that has happened to the community in a while. It really goes to show what can happen when nice, helpful people get together in a channel, and just enjoy the game.

universalwill

United States654 Posts

January 18 2011 12:47 GMT

while i think it's great that you are all having a good time practicing with each other, don't necessarily try to learn from each other. people at a bronze level don't really understand the fundamental concepts of starcraft. so it's good that you're practicing against each other, since practice always brings improvement. just don't... learn things from them. you're not going to learn things sufficient for diamond.

for instance, i have a bronze account given to me by a friend who quit sc2. with it i have discovered that hydralisk rushes are viable vs bronze terrans. but that isn't a sufficient strategy to take me to higher skill levels, since hydralisks actually really suck vs master terrans. if i were a low level player going by what i learned at low levels of play, i would constat

so i'd suggest maybe seeing if you can get a master league player to pop into chat sometime to teach you a few things, or maybe you all could take a concept from a day9 daily and just spend a few hours practicing that against each other.

Janaros

United Kingdom58 Posts

January 18 2011 13:11 GMT

You really did not read my post, did you Universalwill? :-)

We have 3-4 "regular" Masters/Diamond people there, me included. Don't worry, we are teaching these newbies how to work the basics as well. ;>

brichals

Germany50 Posts

January 18 2011 13:18 GMT

My first post here to endorse this channel. Its great. You don't need to be only bronze. You can also play with your terrible offrace here, can match up in team games with mixed skill and so on. There are also higher level showmatches going on from the more proficient chatties, which everybody likes to spectate. Please check it out if you want to learn or teach or both!

Roggle

United States142 Posts

January 18 2011 13:21 GMT

Practicing with other players of similar skill level when you're in a lower league outside of laddering constantly is less about learning which strategies to take with you at higher levels of play, and more about having a learning-focused environment where players can play against each other and each has a specific learning goal in mind.

For instance, one of the most (if not the single most) useful things to practice at lower levels is maintaining consistently good macro practices during your games, and if you have two people going into a game with that goal in mind, you're not going to end up with loads of cannon rushes, 6-pools, and bunker rushes. Not to mention, being in custom games where you're both out to learn takes a lot of the "I need to win this game" stress out of the equation, which allows players to focus more on their learning goals while winning takes a temporary back seat.

Good luck with the continued success of the channel. If I had access to an EU account, you'd definitely find me there.

Eluadyl

Turkey364 Posts

January 18 2011 13:28 GMT

On January 18 2011 22:21 Roggle wrote:
Practicing with other players of similar skill level when you're in a lower league outside of laddering constantly is less about learning which strategies to take with you at higher levels of play, and more about having a learning-focused environment where players can play against each other and each has a specific learning goal in mind.

For instance, one of the most (if not the single most) useful things to practice at lower levels is maintaining consistently good macro practices during your games, and if you have two people going into a game with that goal in mind, you're not going to end up with loads of cannon rushes, 6-pools, and bunker rushes. Not to mention, being in custom games where you're both out to learn takes a lot of the "I need to win this game" stress out of the equation, which allows players to focus more on their learning goals while winning takes a temporary back seat.

Good luck with the continued success of the channel. If I had access to an EU account, you'd definitely find me there.

I'm on EU so I can't do anything about it but why don't you start a similar channel on US? If you like the idea, there should be others to like it too.

gTank

Austria2603 Posts

January 18 2011 13:59 GMT

#10

Hi there.

First of all its my first post here so "servus leute".

I found out about the chat here on TL and it really helped me a lot to get immediate feedback on my games in a non-stressful environment. (Not like ladder for example).

goneim

China201 Posts

January 18 2011 14:04 GMT

#11

This sounds great, will join u guys later xD

Edit: This channel is really really great! Joined this tonight, played some 1v1 games and always could get some nice tips from the obs, luv u guys! :D

MousecL1ck1

187 Posts

January 18 2011 14:18 GMT

#12

Cool, I can help out if you would like. I play random, master league.

sleepingdog

Austria6145 Posts

January 18 2011 14:34 GMT

#13

On January 18 2011 05:05 Keitzer wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=183961

post it there

Don't agree, the OP hasn't updated EU-channels...well...ever.

Sounds like a really nice idea, especially if there are already some master/diamond-players joining in. I'll definitely stop by to help some of you in case I'm tired and don't feel like practicing myself.

Maybe ask an admin to edit the title of the thread to something more insightful like "EU-channel: Bronze practice". This way it seems like you are a bronze player looking for practice partners.

LeSioN

United States325 Posts

January 18 2011 14:41 GMT

#14

ther is already a channel for this on us called "b 1v1"

Roggle

United States142 Posts

January 18 2011 14:42 GMT

#15

On January 18 2011 22:28 Eluadyl wrote:

Show nested quote +

I'm on EU so I can't do anything about it but why don't you start a similar channel on US? If you like the idea, there should be others to like it too.

I may just do that.

TFB

United Kingdom89 Posts

January 18 2011 15:16 GMT

#16

Very interesting, this. Will hopefully get my bronze zerg self in there later. Are there any particular forms of etiquette to which it is hoped one would adhere, or is it a "show up, say Hi, see what happens" kinda deal?