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[GSL] Who is worthy of competing in Code A - Page 76

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taskmgr.exe
Profile Joined February 2010
Russian Federation134 Posts
January 12 2011 21:01 GMT
#1501
On January 13 2011 05:59 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2011 05:40 taskmgr.exe wrote:
Oh god, seriously?
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Bratok#Achievements
http://www.gosugamers.net/starcraft2/rankings/7113
He just have Visa issues and can't go anywhere in Europe currently. Also he was very busy last 2 months because of Beeline tournament, which he won btw. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=177726

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Sjow#Achievements

I mean, sure brat_ok is good, but I definitely wouldn't have him compete in the GSL favor of players like Sjow, Morrow, and HuK.

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Jinro#Achievements
And where is he now?
JMDj
Profile Joined September 2010
United States454 Posts
January 12 2011 21:09 GMT
#1502
On January 13 2011 05:53 taskmgr.exe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2011 05:45 Xde wrote:
If he is unable to attend LANs becuase of visa issues, how is he going to get to Korea?

Also winning a tournament in which you're the only good player isn't very impressive.

You can stop trying to make an argument for him just because he is from your country. While he is an awesome player and clearly the best player from Russia, he just isn't relative enough in the foreign SC2 scene.

Since when Korea is in Europe?

I'm not trying to make an argument, I want to say that you have no idea who he is and what he can do. You probably should watch his stream, he does that often. I voted for him not because he is just from my country, I voted for him because he is awesome and absolutely deserves it. I also listed HuK and Darkforce if you missed that, look at the page 73.


So if Brat_OK only had visa issues for entering Europe why did he not attend MLG or other non European LANs?

Also "because he is awesome and deserves it" really doesn't have any merit to it whatsoever. There isn't really any actual evidence to suggest that he is one of the top 4 foreign sc2 players.
lexxus661
Profile Joined January 2011
Russian Federation5 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-12 21:14:37
January 12 2011 21:13 GMT
#1503
There are 2 simple things that no one can deny:

1) BRAT_OK has at least the same level of skills as all other players on this list. Otherwise he won't be on the list, right? Right.
2) There is no nationality bias. BRAT_OK is great player, excellent first person streamer and has a lot of fans. Otherwise he won't be supported more than thousand of people, right? Damn right.

So please stop talking about nationality here. We are just supporting a skilled player, superb first person streamer. That's it.
taskmgr.exe
Profile Joined February 2010
Russian Federation134 Posts
January 12 2011 21:14 GMT
#1504
Did you see alot of non-NA players in MLG? Which other LANs? Afrika's ones?

And once again, go watch some replays\VODs of him. I'm tired of this.
JMDj
Profile Joined September 2010
United States454 Posts
January 12 2011 21:14 GMT
#1505
On January 13 2011 06:01 taskmgr.exe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2011 05:59 Shikyo wrote:
On January 13 2011 05:40 taskmgr.exe wrote:
Oh god, seriously?
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Bratok#Achievements
http://www.gosugamers.net/starcraft2/rankings/7113
He just have Visa issues and can't go anywhere in Europe currently. Also he was very busy last 2 months because of Beeline tournament, which he won btw. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=177726

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Sjow#Achievements

I mean, sure brat_ok is good, but I definitely wouldn't have him compete in the GSL favor of players like Sjow, Morrow, and HuK.

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Jinro#Achievements
And where is he now?


He's dominating GSL. But doing so AFTER winning MLG (an event in which most of the top notch foreign sc2 players competed) and after qualifying for GSL through his preliminary matches, not automatically.
kOre
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada3642 Posts
January 12 2011 21:15 GMT
#1506
Liking the new GOM icon beside Junkkas name
http://www.starcraftmecca.net - Founder
taskmgr.exe
Profile Joined February 2010
Russian Federation134 Posts
January 12 2011 21:17 GMT
#1507
On January 13 2011 06:14 Xde wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2011 06:01 taskmgr.exe wrote:
On January 13 2011 05:59 Shikyo wrote:
On January 13 2011 05:40 taskmgr.exe wrote:
Oh god, seriously?
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Bratok#Achievements
http://www.gosugamers.net/starcraft2/rankings/7113
He just have Visa issues and can't go anywhere in Europe currently. Also he was very busy last 2 months because of Beeline tournament, which he won btw. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=177726

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Sjow#Achievements

I mean, sure brat_ok is good, but I definitely wouldn't have him compete in the GSL favor of players like Sjow, Morrow, and HuK.

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Jinro#Achievements
And where is he now?


He's dominating GSL. But doing so AFTER winning MLG (an event in which most of the top notch foreign sc2 players competed) and after qualifying for GSL through his preliminary matches, not automatically.

Yes, he's dominating. But list of his acomplishments before GSL is not very long. That's the point.
JMDj
Profile Joined September 2010
United States454 Posts
January 12 2011 21:17 GMT
#1508
On January 13 2011 06:14 taskmgr.exe wrote:
Did you see alot of non-NA players in MLG? Which other LANs? Afrika's ones?

And once again, go watch some replays\VODs of him. I'm tired of this.


Jinro, Ret, Socke, Sen, Haypro, Nazgul, and Fenix all competed in MLG. lol
CagyStalker
Profile Joined January 2011
14 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-12 21:18:40
January 12 2011 21:17 GMT
#1509
I dont like this situation with "national voting" (its not only about bratok fans, there are so many guys writing about Moonglade, Kiwikaki, Tyler, Huk, QXC, Fenix) Its a common... As i wrote some time ago, my opinion pretty much close to Jinro, as soon as he played enough with all this players.

On January 06 2011 16:00 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
Well, Huk and Hayder obv, already here afterall. And Huk is sick good now.

After that, its harder but I think these 3 have all expressed interest;
Xiaot - Best chinese player ATM I think.
SjoW - I think he expressed interest in going in the past, and hes been beasting EU for the past months.
Brat_OK - Just a total boss terran~~

JMDj
Profile Joined September 2010
United States454 Posts
January 12 2011 21:18 GMT
#1510
On January 13 2011 06:17 taskmgr.exe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2011 06:14 Xde wrote:
On January 13 2011 06:01 taskmgr.exe wrote:
On January 13 2011 05:59 Shikyo wrote:
On January 13 2011 05:40 taskmgr.exe wrote:
Oh god, seriously?
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Bratok#Achievements
http://www.gosugamers.net/starcraft2/rankings/7113
He just have Visa issues and can't go anywhere in Europe currently. Also he was very busy last 2 months because of Beeline tournament, which he won btw. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=177726

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Sjow#Achievements

I mean, sure brat_ok is good, but I definitely wouldn't have him compete in the GSL favor of players like Sjow, Morrow, and HuK.

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Jinro#Achievements
And where is he now?


He's dominating GSL. But doing so AFTER winning MLG (an event in which most of the top notch foreign sc2 players competed) and after qualifying for GSL through his preliminary matches, not automatically.

Yes, he's dominating. But list of his acomplishments before GSL is not very long. That's the point.


but he wasn't given an AUTOMATIC QUALIFICATION. If Brat_OK wants he should go and qualify on his own because there are many other foreigners more deserving of an automatic qualification.
taskmgr.exe
Profile Joined February 2010
Russian Federation134 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-12 21:21:03
January 12 2011 21:18 GMT
#1511
And most of them from TLAF and got paid to fly to USA, yeah.

Edit: Ok, i'm out. The growth of stupidity in this thread makes my head hurt.
JMDj
Profile Joined September 2010
United States454 Posts
January 12 2011 21:20 GMT
#1512
On January 13 2011 06:13 lexxus661 wrote:
There are 2 simple things that no one can deny:

1) BRAT_OK has at least the same level of skills as all other players on this list. Otherwise he won't be on the list, right? Right.
2) There is no nationality bias. BRAT_OK is great player, excellent first person streamer and has a lot of fans. Otherwise he won't be supported more than thousand of people, right? Damn right.

So please stop talking about nationality here. We are just supporting a skilled player, superb first person streamer. That's it.


Yes there is nationality bias. People like you with only 5 posts on team liquid creating accounts just to vote for Brat_OK is extremely biased. And of course Brat_OK is going to be supported by thousands of RUSSIANS because he is the only good player from Russia.
JMDj
Profile Joined September 2010
United States454 Posts
January 12 2011 21:22 GMT
#1513
On January 13 2011 06:18 taskmgr.exe wrote:
And most of them from TLAF and got paid to fly to USA, yeah.

Edit: Ok, i'm out. The growth of stupidity in this thread makes my head hurt.


Thank god. Please don't come back.

PS- Of course Team Liquid paid for them to come to MLG, just as other players teams pay for them to go to other LANs.
Omigawa
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1556 Posts
January 12 2011 21:22 GMT
#1514
Brat_OK and DIMAGA PLZ
sixfour
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
England11062 Posts
January 12 2011 21:24 GMT
#1515
Huk, Demuslim, White-Ra, Morrow
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
Jager
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom140 Posts
January 12 2011 21:25 GMT
#1516
On January 06 2011 15:15 hmunkey wrote:
Guys, stop suggesting players who you like but don't stand a good chance at getting into Code S. Pick the best of the best, so we can at least have some more foreigners in the GSL.

This shouldn't be some popularity contest based on how amicable a player is. (Like iNcontrol -- yeah, he's a funny guy but the foreigner scene has far better players than him).

I'd suggest HuK, Select, possibly qxc, Naama, and Whitera. They're extremely skilled, have taken wins lately, and actually could make it to Code S.


those two out, add in Sjow and EGDeMusliM
sushiman
Profile Joined September 2003
Sweden2691 Posts
January 12 2011 21:25 GMT
#1517
Dimaga, Ra, Mana, Kiwikaki.

My two cents.
1000 at least.
mistgun_EU
Profile Joined October 2010
309 Posts
January 12 2011 21:27 GMT
#1518
did ppl forget about Sen ? or is he in code A already ?
DownMaxX
Profile Joined August 2008
Canada1311 Posts
January 12 2011 21:32 GMT
#1519
HuK for sure.

Then.. Machine, Fenix.. and Select. Or does he count? If not, Strelok.
parasite
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
January 12 2011 21:35 GMT
#1520
On January 13 2011 06:22 Xde wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2011 06:18 taskmgr.exe wrote:
And most of them from TLAF and got paid to fly to USA, yeah.

Edit: Ok, i'm out. The growth of stupidity in this thread makes my head hurt.


Thank god. Please don't come back.

PS- Of course Team Liquid paid for them to come to MLG, just as other players teams pay for them to go to other LANs.

I wonder, how much have you actually seen of BratOk's play?
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
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