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Cathasaigh
Profile Joined April 2010
United States285 Posts
January 12 2011 20:20 GMT
#1481
On January 13 2011 05:15 taskmgr.exe wrote:
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I would hate for GOM to see just this poll and invite a player like BratOK over some other players that may be more deserving.

Like who? Do you really think Bratok doesn't deserve this?


He might deserve to be in the discussion but the poll makes it seem like he's the clear #1 choice to send over when I don't think he is and based on what other people are saying, a lot of other people would agree.
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JMDj
Profile Joined September 2010
United States454 Posts
January 12 2011 20:21 GMT
#1482
On January 13 2011 05:18 urdak wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2011 05:12 Xde wrote:
On January 13 2011 05:08 Sein wrote:
On January 13 2011 03:18 CagyStalker wrote:
On January 13 2011 03:02 Sein wrote:
Can we please try to set aside the national bias? Recommend players who deserve it on merit. This isn't a topic for discussing who your favorite player is.

So tell us plz about players who deserves, im very interested.


I already did a while ago, but I understand you could've missed it because it is a chore to go through 75 pages of posts. I believe I said Sen and Huk should be no brainers, although after posting that I think I've read somewhere that Sen plans on finishing university first before going back to Korea. Not sure if I mentioned anyone else.

BratOK is an excellent player and I would not be against him receiving Code A, but I hope you understand me getting a bit annoyed with this. I have no problem with all these people from the Russian site coming here , but it does bother me that every single one of them has been "voting" for BratOK. Like I already said, he is a very good player, but would you agree with me in that the national bias is rather obvious here?


I agree with this guy. The poll is a little misleading... I was extremely surprised to see so many votes for BratOk.

I would hate for GOM to see just this poll and invite a player like BratOK over some other players that may be more deserving. But GOM is a really great organization and I'm sure they'll make the most well-informed decisions.

And how do we know who deserves to get in the most? You must also understand that they also want to increase the popularity of GSL and thus BratOK might be a good choice.


GSL isn't a popularity contest... it's a competition to determine who the best starcraft2 players in the world are.
{ToT}ColmA
Profile Joined November 2007
Japan3260 Posts
January 12 2011 20:22 GMT
#1483
On January 13 2011 05:21 Xde wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2011 05:18 urdak wrote:
On January 13 2011 05:12 Xde wrote:
On January 13 2011 05:08 Sein wrote:
On January 13 2011 03:18 CagyStalker wrote:
On January 13 2011 03:02 Sein wrote:
Can we please try to set aside the national bias? Recommend players who deserve it on merit. This isn't a topic for discussing who your favorite player is.

So tell us plz about players who deserves, im very interested.


I already did a while ago, but I understand you could've missed it because it is a chore to go through 75 pages of posts. I believe I said Sen and Huk should be no brainers, although after posting that I think I've read somewhere that Sen plans on finishing university first before going back to Korea. Not sure if I mentioned anyone else.

BratOK is an excellent player and I would not be against him receiving Code A, but I hope you understand me getting a bit annoyed with this. I have no problem with all these people from the Russian site coming here , but it does bother me that every single one of them has been "voting" for BratOK. Like I already said, he is a very good player, but would you agree with me in that the national bias is rather obvious here?


I agree with this guy. The poll is a little misleading... I was extremely surprised to see so many votes for BratOk.

I would hate for GOM to see just this poll and invite a player like BratOK over some other players that may be more deserving. But GOM is a really great organization and I'm sure they'll make the most well-informed decisions.

And how do we know who deserves to get in the most? You must also understand that they also want to increase the popularity of GSL and thus BratOK might be a good choice.


GSL isn't a popularity contest... it's a competition to determine who the best starcraft2 players in the world are.


by that definition bratok is someone to pick
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Barif
Profile Joined January 2011
Ukraine2 Posts
January 12 2011 20:24 GMT
#1484
Hi, i want see some of this players on GSL:
White-Ra
Bratok
Dimaga

They are awesome xD
Grend
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
1600 Posts
January 12 2011 20:24 GMT
#1485
Wow, so much cheating going on in this thread. 1 post east european extravaganza
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Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada5847 Posts
January 12 2011 20:26 GMT
#1486
I'd have a problem with it if they weren't nominating incredibly good players who probably deserve the opportunity more than alot of the other names thrown around.
taskmgr.exe
Profile Joined February 2010
Russian Federation134 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-12 20:28:59
January 12 2011 20:26 GMT
#1487
On January 13 2011 05:18 Xde wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2011 05:15 taskmgr.exe wrote:
I would hate for GOM to see just this poll and invite a player like BratOK over some other players that may be more deserving.

Like who? Do you really think Bratok doesn't deserve this?


Brat_OK is an extremely good starcraft player but foreigners like HuK, WhiteRa, Naama, DeMuslim, Mana, and Sjow have accomplished quite a lot more and are just better players than him.

Obviously you don't know anything about Bratok if you determine all of that players "just better". Also discuss WhiteRa in this thread is really stupid because he's married and won't go anywhere.
-Strider-
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Mexico1605 Posts
January 12 2011 20:29 GMT
#1488
DEmuslim since he is going to korea, huk, White-ra and select
What is up? IM NESTEAAAA!
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
January 12 2011 20:31 GMT
#1489
On January 13 2011 05:18 Xde wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2011 05:15 taskmgr.exe wrote:
I would hate for GOM to see just this poll and invite a player like BratOK over some other players that may be more deserving.

Like who? Do you really think Bratok doesn't deserve this?


Brat_OK is an extremely good starcraft player but foreigners like HuK, WhiteRa, Naama, DeMuslim, Mana, and Sjow have accomplished quite a lot more and are just better players than him.

How are they ''just better players than him''? BratOk hasn't been able to compete in the major tournaments due to Visa issues and whatnot...
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
Tigi
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany472 Posts
January 12 2011 20:32 GMT
#1490
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL DeMuslim over Brat_OK ?? That's the real joke. Obvisiously Brat_OK deserves it.
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JMDj
Profile Joined September 2010
United States454 Posts
January 12 2011 20:35 GMT
#1491
On January 13 2011 05:26 taskmgr.exe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2011 05:18 Xde wrote:
On January 13 2011 05:15 taskmgr.exe wrote:
I would hate for GOM to see just this poll and invite a player like BratOK over some other players that may be more deserving.

Like who? Do you really think Bratok doesn't deserve this?


Brat_OK is an extremely good starcraft player but foreigners like HuK, WhiteRa, Naama, DeMuslim, Mana, and Sjow have accomplished quite a lot more and are just better players than him.

Obviously you don't know anything about Bratok if you determine all of that players "just better". Also considering WhiteRa in this thread is really stupid because he's married and won't go anywhere.


The only events Brat_OK has gotten first place in were various small weekly/monthly tournaments on battle.net. How can you honestly believe that he deserves to be automatically qualified over other foreigners who have won MLGs,Dreamhacks,IEMs, and other big LANs?

Brat_OK simply doesn't have the results to suggest that he deserves to automatically qualify over other foreigners.
taskmgr.exe
Profile Joined February 2010
Russian Federation134 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-12 20:41:03
January 12 2011 20:40 GMT
#1492
Oh god, seriously?
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Bratok#Achievements
http://www.gosugamers.net/starcraft2/rankings/7113
He just have Visa issues and can't go anywhere in Europe currently. Also he was very busy last 2 months because of Beeline tournament, which he won btw. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=177726
JMDj
Profile Joined September 2010
United States454 Posts
January 12 2011 20:45 GMT
#1493
If he is unable to attend LANs becuase of visa issues, how is he going to get to Korea?

Also winning a tournament in which you're the only good player isn't very impressive.

You can stop trying to make an argument for him just because he is from your country. While he is an awesome player and clearly the best player from Russia, he just isn't relative enough in the foreign SC2 scene.
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-12 20:49:57
January 12 2011 20:46 GMT
#1494
Bratok is very good and deserves it, but it's a shame so many people are only voting players of their own nationality. Obviously not singling out CIS, the same applies to a lot people in this thread. Props to russians who didn't JUST vote for CIS nationals. Also nice to see SC2 is really popular over there, but I kind of knew that already since bratok's stream always had so many viewers

e: and yes, I agree Bratok might some language difficulties in Korea if he stays longer than for one code A qualifier/tournament
Turgid
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1623 Posts
January 12 2011 20:47 GMT
#1495
On January 13 2011 05:45 Xde wrote:
If he is unable to attend LANs becuase of visa issues, how is he going to get to Korea?

Also winning a tournament in which you're the only good player isn't very impressive.

You can stop trying to make an argument for him just because he is from your country. While he is an awesome player and clearly the best player from Russia, he just isn't relative enough in the foreign SC2 scene.

Well... you listed Demuslim who I'm pretty sure is actually less accomplished than Bratok in SC2.
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Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
January 12 2011 20:52 GMT
#1496
On January 13 2011 05:45 Xde wrote:
If he is unable to attend LANs becuase of visa issues, how is he going to get to Korea?

Also winning a tournament in which you're the only good player isn't very impressive.

You can stop trying to make an argument for him just because he is from your country. While he is an awesome player and clearly the best player from Russia, he just isn't relative enough in the foreign SC2 scene.

I'm from Sweden, and I consider BratOk to be one of the absolutely most skilled players on the foreign scene.
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
mistgun_EU
Profile Joined October 2010
309 Posts
January 12 2011 20:52 GMT
#1497
KawaiiRice deserves a chance
This guy streams his ladder games(KR ladder), and he beat LeenockfOu(no cheese) and many other good players from fOu, iM, Nex etc
taskmgr.exe
Profile Joined February 2010
Russian Federation134 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-12 20:54:48
January 12 2011 20:53 GMT
#1498
On January 13 2011 05:45 Xde wrote:
If he is unable to attend LANs becuase of visa issues, how is he going to get to Korea?

Also winning a tournament in which you're the only good player isn't very impressive.

You can stop trying to make an argument for him just because he is from your country. While he is an awesome player and clearly the best player from Russia, he just isn't relative enough in the foreign SC2 scene.

Since when Korea is in Europe?

I'm not trying to make an argument, I want to say that you have no idea who he is and what he can do. You probably should watch his stream, he does that often. I voted for him not because he is just from my country, I voted for him because he is awesome and absolutely deserves it. I also listed HuK and Darkforce if you missed that, look at the page 73.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
January 12 2011 20:59 GMT
#1499
On January 13 2011 05:40 taskmgr.exe wrote:
Oh god, seriously?
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Bratok#Achievements
http://www.gosugamers.net/starcraft2/rankings/7113
He just have Visa issues and can't go anywhere in Europe currently. Also he was very busy last 2 months because of Beeline tournament, which he won btw. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=177726

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Sjow#Achievements

I mean, sure brat_ok is good, but I definitely wouldn't have him compete in the GSL favor of players like Sjow, Morrow, and HuK.
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Rags
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden11 Posts
January 12 2011 21:01 GMT
#1500
Go BratOK, Dimaga, White-RA && Huk!
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