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On January 05 2011 02:12 Ragoo wrote:Show nested quote +On January 05 2011 02:01 Deadlyfish wrote:
There must be some kind of error in the system, because obviously this player isnt 500 points better than everyone else, i mean i've never seen Naniwa win anything, i wouldnt even put him in top10 europe. People like Dimaga, Whitera or TLO are surely better than this guy, so why does he have 500 more points than them? I dont get it.
If he really was the best player in Europe (as this suggests, i mean 500 points more than anyone else) then why hasnt he won any big tournaments or anything. Naniwa won 4 or 5 Zotac Cups, last Zotac final a month or so ago I saw between him and Dimaga he won 3-0 and he was on his way to the EPS Finals when he was kicked out. I wouldn't say he is necessarily worse than Dimaga, Whitera or TLO. Even though many people wish he would be that bad because of his sick amount of BM and thus underestimate him.
This he is extremely underestimated just coz people dont like him but he is definitely in the top5 eu protoss
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On January 05 2011 02:13 Meldrath wrote:Show nested quote +On January 05 2011 02:10 euroboy wrote:On January 05 2011 02:08 Meldrath wrote:On January 05 2011 01:24 Shikyo wrote:On January 05 2011 01:20 donut boi wrote:
MeatyOwlLegs... it's not often I come across a name that instantly strikes me as being totally baller
but yea hes abusing the bonus pool shit... i was watching drewbie's stream where he was playing on his smurf... basically he always played favored ppl and gained 40-50 points per win and lost 0-1 points when he lost. It is quite silly that accounts like these receive no penalty for losing That is because of his winloss ratio and the extremely low amount of games played, it has nothing to do with bonus pool. Im pretty sure recieving double the points for every single win he gets helps so yeah it kinda has something to do with the bonus pool. not to mention it will inflat and inflat standings forever. Bonus pool is bullshit and needs to be removed and allow people to mitigate to a normal elo style like chess. It has nothing to do with bonus pool, it's the same for everyone. If you have used your bonus pool you have the EXACT same bonus points as meaty. Im not saying we don't Im saying the bonus pool system is bullshit and it is... its a horrible system.. that means 3k today is great... when 3k tomorrow is garbage... the bar shouldnt keep moving becuase the system keeps inflating the points... the system should be like chess where 2k+ is great with only a select few reaching elo's of 2800+ in chess if you have a elo of 2700-2800 your a god among men.. a grandmaster chess player. Should be the same here... not this ever changing shit storm "omg 4k points" next week it will be OMG 5k points.
I don't get why it bothers you so much. Just substract the bonus pool total...
In some more recent chessmetric systems the points actually decreases when you don't play a fixed number of tournaments each year (to promote activity and discourage rating protection) so it has a kind of bonus point too except negative bonus points. Would you rather have your point decrease after a month of inactivity rather than everyone else's up?
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On January 05 2011 01:27 Gigaudas wrote:Show nested quote +On January 05 2011 01:25 YourMom wrote:On January 05 2011 01:22 gaston116 wrote:
Confirmed its SjoWs toss account! Because of APM ? I really want to see sum replays of this 4k dood... Yes, the 500+ APM confirms that it's SjoW and not Nani as Sjow is well known for his high APM.
Sarcasm meter is beeping like crazy.
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On January 05 2011 02:28 SecondChance wrote:Show nested quote +On January 05 2011 01:27 Gigaudas wrote:On January 05 2011 01:25 YourMom wrote:On January 05 2011 01:22 gaston116 wrote:
Confirmed its SjoWs toss account! Because of APM ? I really want to see sum replays of this 4k dood... Yes, the 500+ APM confirms that it's SjoW and not Nani as Sjow is well known for his high APM. Sarcasm meter is beeping like crazy.
You must have the platinum edition, mines on fire.
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On January 05 2011 02:25 shaunnn wrote:Show nested quote +On January 05 2011 02:12 Ragoo wrote:On January 05 2011 02:01 Deadlyfish wrote:
There must be some kind of error in the system, because obviously this player isnt 500 points better than everyone else, i mean i've never seen Naniwa win anything, i wouldnt even put him in top10 europe. People like Dimaga, Whitera or TLO are surely better than this guy, so why does he have 500 more points than them? I dont get it.
If he really was the best player in Europe (as this suggests, i mean 500 points more than anyone else) then why hasnt he won any big tournaments or anything. Naniwa won 4 or 5 Zotac Cups, last Zotac final a month or so ago I saw between him and Dimaga he won 3-0 and he was on his way to the EPS Finals when he was kicked out. I wouldn't say he is necessarily worse than Dimaga, Whitera or TLO. Even though many people wish he would be that bad because of his sick amount of BM and thus underestimate him. This he is extremely underestimated just coz people dont like him but he is definitely in the top5 eu protoss
People don't like him because his skill decreases dramatically once he is "forced" to play macro - hell I come from wc3 and still don't like it how he simply relies on players not being able to defend his 1-2 base semi all-ins.
Just look up his latest games vs Kuba Go4Sc2, both his losses in long games 2 of his 3 wins in/around 10 minutes (last win in game 5 was 18 minutes; also a nice example of his awful behaviour: http://www.sc2rep.com/replays/(P)nAni_vs_(Z)Kuba_metalopolis_sc2rep_com_20101230/4021 ). BM makes matters worse indeed, but he also has a really undewhelming style.
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Of course the bonus pool helped him to get 4k that fast, nonetheless he went 26-2 against the best european players, so obviously he is incredibly good.
But can't remember that he was that good, maybe he figured out some awesome new builds or something like that. Don't have another explanation for this rise in skill or whatever it is.
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On January 05 2011 02:40 Krafty wrote:http://sc2ranks.com/div/52745/division-marine-psigarbage divison. Edit: I'm assuming he kept doing placement matches in order to get in the worst possible division before starting to ladder. Quite pathetic actually.
Do you even know how the matchmaking system works?
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On January 05 2011 02:40 Krafty wrote:http://sc2ranks.com/div/52745/division-marine-psigarbage divison. Edit: I'm assuming he kept doing placement matches in order to get in the worst possible division before starting to ladder. Quite pathetic actually.
Wth. Yes his points are blown up because of his division. EVEN SO, subtracting that he's still #1.
I wish there was a report button on TL lol.
EDIT: How the hell do you "keep doing placement matches" ?
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On January 05 2011 02:35 Cripp wrote:
Of course the bonus pool helped him to get 4k that fast, nonetheless he went 26-2 against the best european players, so obviously he is incredibly good.
But can't remember that he was that good, maybe he figured out some awesome new builds or something like that. Don't have another explanation for this rise in skill or whatever it is.
At least it didn't help him more than anyone else. Regardless if its a smurf a new account a pro did. Bonus pool is not the culprit for his being the first that high.
Let me help you understand. Say the total bonus pool is 2k2. Well then you can say that MeatyOwlLegs's achievement is being the first at 1800.
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On January 05 2011 02:43 LoLAdriankat wrote:Do you even know how the matchmaking system works?
Apparently it hasn't gone through to his head after almost half a year.
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On January 05 2011 02:40 Krafty wrote:http://sc2ranks.com/div/52745/division-marine-psigarbage divison. Edit: I'm assuming he kept doing placement matches in order to get in the worst possible division before starting to ladder. Quite pathetic actually.
What the fuck? Why would even write that? It makes no sense at all. Assuming something, then jump over to how pathetic that assumption is? Now thats really pathetic.
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On January 05 2011 02:47 AkobeS wrote:What the fuck? Why would even write that? It makes no sense at all. Assuming something, then jump over to how pathetic that assumption is? Now thats really pathetic.
http://sc2ranks.com/masters/eu
Ladder ranks assuming all divisions are equal
Edit:fixed
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On January 05 2011 02:49 Krafty wrote:Show nested quote +On January 05 2011 02:47 AkobeS wrote:On January 05 2011 02:40 Krafty wrote:http://sc2ranks.com/div/52745/division-marine-psigarbage divison. Edit: I'm assuming he kept doing placement matches in order to get in the worst possible division before starting to ladder. Quite pathetic actually. What the fuck? Why would even write that? It makes no sense at all. Assuming something, then jump over to how pathetic that assumption is? Now thats really pathetic. http://sc2ranks.com/masters/usLadder ranks assuming all divisions are equal
PSSSSSSSSSSSSST
He's EU
http://sc2ranks.com/masters/eu
Moron lol
EDIT: Note: marine psi exist in EU
EDIT2: Hopefully with that edit he realises he's still #1
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On January 05 2011 02:45 tnud wrote:Wth. Yes his points are blown up because of his division. EVEN SO, subtracting that he's still #1. I wish there was a report button on TL lol. EDIT: How the hell do you "keep doing placement matches" ? I haven't actually tried this, but if you keep creating trial accounts and playing your placements untill you get a really bad division, then buy the game for that account should actually work.
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I'm really looking forward to see him performing in tournaments.
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On January 05 2011 02:51 tnud wrote:Show nested quote +On January 05 2011 02:49 Krafty wrote:On January 05 2011 02:47 AkobeS wrote:On January 05 2011 02:40 Krafty wrote:http://sc2ranks.com/div/52745/division-marine-psigarbage divison. Edit: I'm assuming he kept doing placement matches in order to get in the worst possible division before starting to ladder. Quite pathetic actually. What the fuck? Why would even write that? It makes no sense at all. Assuming something, then jump over to how pathetic that assumption is? Now thats really pathetic. http://sc2ranks.com/masters/usLadder ranks assuming all divisions are equal PSSSSSSSSSSSSST He's EU http://sc2ranks.com/masters/euMoron lol EDIT: Note: marine psi exsist in EU
Thanks, fixed. still doesn't change my point. this shows that the divs are clearly a factor in his getting 4000 points.
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On January 05 2011 02:47 AkobeS wrote:What the fuck? Why would even write that? It makes no sense at all. Assuming something, then jump over to how pathetic that assumption is? Now thats really pathetic.
I agree his conclusion is rather bias but his actual findings aren't. There isn't a player yet at 4k points. Since points across divisions aren't the same the "masters" is the true reflection of how many points he has. He's good, he's number 1 but he's not at 4k points.
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On January 05 2011 02:51 Mise wrote:Show nested quote +On January 05 2011 02:45 tnud wrote:On January 05 2011 02:40 Krafty wrote:http://sc2ranks.com/div/52745/division-marine-psigarbage divison. Edit: I'm assuming he kept doing placement matches in order to get in the worst possible division before starting to ladder. Quite pathetic actually. Wth. Yes his points are blown up because of his division. EVEN SO, subtracting that he's still #1. I wish there was a report button on TL lol. EDIT: How the hell do you "keep doing placement matches" ? I haven't actually tried this, but if you keep creating trial accounts and playing your placements untill you get a really bad division, then buy the game for that account should actually work.
Yeah. I think that might be what he did. Can't be sure though.
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