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MeatyOwlLegs first player to 4000 points!

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ChickenLips
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
2912 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-05 00:02:53
January 04 2011 16:16 GMT
#1
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Formerly known as Puckelrygg, MeatyOwlLegs has reached 4000 points on the EU ladder. It seems pretty much is confirmed that is is Naniwa. Our bm superhero Congrats on bringing the newest 1k ladder increment achievement to the EU servers!

His division has a division offset of +315
He is however at the top of EU Masters League
http://sc2ranks.com/masters/eu


"Who's MeatyOwlLegs?"
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=181011

SC2 Ladder Analysis: Division Tiers
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=169830

On November 18 2010 05:22 Excalibur_Z wrote:
FAQ
Q: Why is it this way?
A: The answer is twofold. Blizzard's intent is for players to focus on their assigned division. To that end, divisions cover a relatively narrow range of skill. The objective is that players who are both active and skilled will reach the top of their division.

The tier to which you are assigned contains a rating offset in order to normalize ratings. If tiers didn't exist, it would be immediately evident that certain divisions are worse than others. While a top player's division may have many players around 2000 rating, a weaker player's division may have their average closer to 1500. However, after normalization, it may turn out that the weaker player's division has an average closer to 1815, which is much more competitive. This creates incentive for the lower-tier players to continue playing because the gap appears to be more manageable.

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Klamity
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States994 Posts
January 04 2011 16:18 GMT
#2
hopefully blizzard takes a hard look at this and kills the bonus pool as a result.
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ScrubS
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands436 Posts
January 04 2011 16:19 GMT
#3
He hasn't confirmed to be Naniwa yet right? If so, its still uncertain who he actually is (I think he's bat/superman).
donut boi
Profile Joined October 2010
United States154 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-04 16:22:19
January 04 2011 16:20 GMT
#4
MeatyOwlLegs... it's not often I come across a name that instantly strikes me as being totally baller

but yea hes abusing the bonus pool shit... i was watching drewbie's stream where he was playing on his smurf... basically he always played favored ppl and gained 40-50 points per win and lost 0-1 points when he lost. It is quite silly that accounts like these receive no penalty for losing
donut the bronut
ROOTheognis
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
United States4482 Posts
January 04 2011 16:21 GMT
#5
Naniwa... first player to reach 3k in NA server... first player to reach 4k everywhere??

Holy crap he's amazing lol...
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Spikeworld
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany61 Posts
January 04 2011 16:22 GMT
#6
Its never never never ever Naniwa! Naniwa could never get such a win/loss ratio not in 1000 years!
gaston116
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden73 Posts
January 04 2011 16:22 GMT
#7
Confirmed its SjoWs toss account!
413X
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden203 Posts
January 04 2011 16:22 GMT
#8
Insane
The pro noob
Jayson X
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Switzerland2431 Posts
January 04 2011 16:23 GMT
#9
That's only 223 games o_o
I feel like shit... :D
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
January 04 2011 16:24 GMT
#10
On January 05 2011 01:20 donut boi wrote:
MeatyOwlLegs... it's not often I come across a name that instantly strikes me as being totally baller

but yea hes abusing the bonus pool shit... i was watching drewbie's stream where he was playing on his smurf... basically he always played favored ppl and gained 40-50 points per win and lost 0-1 points when he lost. It is quite silly that accounts like these receive no penalty for losing

That is because of his winloss ratio and the extremely low amount of games played, it has nothing to do with bonus pool.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Weavel
Profile Joined January 2010
Finland9221 Posts
January 04 2011 16:25 GMT
#11
Ladder superhero!
Life/Seed//Mvp/NaNiwa fighting! ZeNEX forever!
YourMom
Profile Joined April 2010
Romania565 Posts
January 04 2011 16:25 GMT
#12
On January 05 2011 01:22 gaston116 wrote:
Confirmed its SjoWs toss account!


Because of APM ? I really want to see sum replays of this 4k dood...
I'm very good at making carriers.
TBO
Profile Joined September 2009
Germany1350 Posts
January 04 2011 16:26 GMT
#13
and being in rather new division which is on a lower tier (his points are worth less than those of other divisions). He is still #1 in masters league by quite some margin though: http://sc2ranks.com/masters/eu
Gigaudas
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Sweden1213 Posts
January 04 2011 16:27 GMT
#14
On January 05 2011 01:25 YourMom wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2011 01:22 gaston116 wrote:
Confirmed its SjoWs toss account!


Because of APM ? I really want to see sum replays of this 4k dood...


Yes, the 500+ APM confirms that it's SjoW and not Nani as Sjow is well known for his high APM.
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euroboy
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden536 Posts
January 04 2011 16:27 GMT
#15
Grats SjoW!
Jerax
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada189 Posts
January 04 2011 16:28 GMT
#16
On January 05 2011 01:25 YourMom wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2011 01:22 gaston116 wrote:
Confirmed its SjoWs toss account!


Because of APM ? I really want to see sum replays of this 4k dood...


Actually, I was watching TLO's stream yesterday and he hit MeatyOwlLegs on the ladder...

MeatyOwlLegs had a really weird build order too..it was interesting to watch (he won).
Erectum
Profile Joined August 2010
France194 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-04 16:31:40
January 04 2011 16:30 GMT
#17
His 4k as nothing to do with bonus pool abuse but all about smurfing on a new account went other top player are all at really high ELO/MMR ranking.

It means that as he started at a low ELO every games he will win he would gain the maximum of point until he feels the gap to rearn his true MMR ranking. Every other top player will do the same result on a smurf.

That shows imo that's there is a lot of difference between the MMR/ELO ranking of a top player and a fresh new dilaond promoted player
Talkerst
Profile Joined October 2010
124 Posts
January 04 2011 16:31 GMT
#18
On January 05 2011 01:24 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2011 01:20 donut boi wrote:
MeatyOwlLegs... it's not often I come across a name that instantly strikes me as being totally baller

but yea hes abusing the bonus pool shit... i was watching drewbie's stream where he was playing on his smurf... basically he always played favored ppl and gained 40-50 points per win and lost 0-1 points when he lost. It is quite silly that accounts like these receive no penalty for losing

That is because of his winloss ratio and the extremely low amount of games played, it has nothing to do with bonus pool.

It is about the bonus pool as the most points you can ever receive without the bonus pool is 25. So to get 40-50 a match he has to be burning through a huge bonus pool. The account was started only 2 months ago so he would have had a starting pool of well over 1000. Given that he didn't play much the first month or so it would proably be close to 1300. Without the bonus pool he could not have achieved his score with his record, not even close.

That's not to say he doesn't have an insane amount of talent. Just that the bonus pool skews things heavily in favor of smurfs.
green.at
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Austria1459 Posts
January 04 2011 16:32 GMT
#19
its neither sjow nor naniwa -.-
Inputting special characters into chat should no longer cause the game to crash.
Scoop
Profile Joined August 2010
Finland482 Posts
January 04 2011 16:33 GMT
#20
On January 05 2011 01:24 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2011 01:20 donut boi wrote:
MeatyOwlLegs... it's not often I come across a name that instantly strikes me as being totally baller

but yea hes abusing the bonus pool shit... i was watching drewbie's stream where he was playing on his smurf... basically he always played favored ppl and gained 40-50 points per win and lost 0-1 points when he lost. It is quite silly that accounts like these receive no penalty for losing

That is because of his winloss ratio and the extremely low amount of games played, it has nothing to do with bonus pool.


Are you just trolling here?

Extremely low amount of games played = a lot of points without bonus pool?
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