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MeatyOwlLegs first player to 4000 points! - Page 14
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NehR
Sweden87 Posts
Congrats Nani on beating b.net 2.0. Let's move on with our lives. | ||
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ChickenLips
2912 Posts
On January 06 2011 00:06 floor exercise wrote: Took me all of 30 seconds to find a working maphack for 1.13 that toggles player selections, camera movement etc. it would be very very easy for any player to toggle it on to check your build and toggle it off. When he went forge first at his nexus vs TLO my initial reaction was kinda like "uhh this guy is good?" but maybe early pools are super popular on Basin I have no idea, haven't played this game in a long ass time. I couldn't imagine wanting to cannon the nat on basin since they'd just counter you. Not saying he cheats, I just found the game peculiar TLO is known for going 12 pool in any matchup on most maps. Don't think I've really seen him go hatch first more than once or twice. | ||
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Deadlyfish
Denmark1980 Posts
On January 05 2011 23:15 Shinkugami wrote: There goes the pathetic "web 2.0" mentality that everything has to be sanitized so it doesn't even have the CHANCE of offending the most stuck-up kids and their soccer moms. Wish you were around in DOTA or even pre-retail CS for that matter, you would have a damn clue what real "bad manner" is. BM is what makes games entertaining. When Idra says to (i forgot who, recently casted by HD tho) another guy that he's a terran scum and should just stfu, most... well... long time players crack it and start laughing. All the kids rage and call bm and unacceptable and OMG so offensive WEDEMANDSANCTIONS because someone acted like a player should. If you rage and scream and "bm" after getting owned (or not, lol) by some stupid noobish all-in (or something else), it kinds of "make" you a good player because you care enough to get upset about it. I challenge you to go to youtube, find games where people rage (be it Idra or nani or anyone) and look at the comments. Guaranteed you won't find anyone crying bm who's above 20. People who get enraged about "bm" should just go back to their pokemon games. What the hell are you talking about? CoD community is probably the most BM racist community there is, and it consists of 12-17 year olds. I dont like BM because it just makes the player seem like an idiot. If he cant handle losing then i dont like him. I love to see BM players lose though. Your logic is so flawed i'm forced to believe you were being sarcastic. And btw, EVERYONE was around in DOTA times, you act as if most people are below 20 when infact it's the complete opposite. | ||
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cilinder007
Slovenia7251 Posts
On January 06 2011 00:57 Deadlyfish wrote: What the hell are you talking about? CoD community is probably the most BM racist community there is, and it consists of 12-17 year olds. I dont like BM because it just makes the player seem like an idiot. If he cant handle losing then i dont like him. I love to see BM players lose though. Your logic is so flawed i'm forced to believe you were being sarcastic. And btw, EVERYONE was around in DOTA times, you act as if most people are below 20 when infact it's the complete opposite. the cod comunity wasnt like this a few years ago  ..... | ||
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floor exercise
Canada5847 Posts
On January 06 2011 00:55 ChickenLips wrote: TLO is known for going 12 pool in any matchup on most maps. Don't think I've really seen him go hatch first more than once or twice. yeah I am definitely not accusing him after one game. Cheating will always exist online though | ||
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reapsen
Germany559 Posts
On January 05 2011 23:48 DND_Enkil wrote: I think you got it the wrong way around! Look at any community where it is socially acceptable to call the player you just beat a "fucking loser faggot" or similar and i guarantee that the average age in the community wont be above 16. All the kids rage and BM because they are immature and do not actually understand sportsmanship and no one on the internat can actually "raise" them and explain proper manners. If you get upset after losing a game in a bad way that is good! It shows you care and that is the right spirit to have. But that is really not at allt he same as being BM, if you are mature enough you have some kind of self-control. People who BM should just go back to "whatever is the currrent rage among 14-year olds" (prolly SC2 now that i think about it *sigh*). I'm afraid i have to disagree. Behaving in a "bad" way is not necessarily linked to the age. Take Quakelive for example. I assume most of the players are well above 16, in fact i know a lot of Quakelivers between 25 and 35. And stuff that is considered as beeing "bm" in the SC Community is really not worth mentioning for most QL Players. As i came to SC2 during the beta in march and started to look into the community i was utterly suprised of the standards for "good behavior". Its like coming from a shabby hotdog stand to a 4-star-restaurant. Suddenly you have to obey this code of behaviour that you are not used to. For me, i am totally fine with beeing called a "nub" or beeing "lol"ed at. The same way i throw out the occasional "lol" myself. Of course i am fine with players leaving without "gg", why should that bother me? Most of the times i even find it quite amusing. So eventually i figured i wouldn't write anything in the chat at all, but even thats considered bm by most players. I mean come on, give me a break. Good manners are important for the pro's, as they represent their teams and stuff, but for 95% of casuals and amateur players, i don't care at all. | ||
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papaz
Sweden4149 Posts
if you can be the first in the world to get 4000 you must have some clue of SC2 regardless of bnets matchmaking system. Its not like you can have a 80% win/loss ration at those ratings by just cheesing. gz to MeatyOwlLegs, impressive! | ||
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rO_Or
United States306 Posts
On January 06 2011 00:57 Deadlyfish wrote: What the hell are you talking about? CoD community is probably the most BM racist community there is, and it consists of 12-17 year olds. I dont like BM because it just makes the player seem like an idiot. If he cant handle losing then i dont like him. I love to see BM players lose though. Your logic is so flawed i'm forced to believe you were being sarcastic. And btw, EVERYONE was around in DOTA times, you act as if most people are below 20 when infact it's the complete opposite. COD community is basically candy land. DOTA was filled with the most unhelpful and pretentious gamers while Counter Strike had "BM" that would make most SC players cry on the spot. The SC community is so nice and responsive it's kinda sickening because I'm used to such vile gaming communities. Not to even mention Gears of War, that has to be top 3 for worst communities. | ||
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Sheep_Chutney
Sweden5 Posts
Instead of congratulating MeatyOwlLegs for being the first to 4k points, you have to find something wrong with it and spill it out like verbal puke. It is confirmed that MeatyOwlLegs is Naniwa, a player with a bad rep but who, according to himself and some others, are trying to change. Some even say that he has. Maybe he finally has woken up and realised that his bad behaviour was hurting himself the most. I can't judge on that, and I won't make any assumptions as to where his manners will be in the future. But please separate the achievement from the image you have of the man behind it. It is also quite sad that people just have to express what they believe as the truth. 80% of the posts in this thread are just dead wrong. Factually wrong, no arguing about it, wrong! He is 4k but only due to abuse - Proven wrong due to him winning over all the top EU players He plays Team games badly to lower his mmr for having better gain from playing 1on1 - Blizzard have themselves said that these are not connected besides used to give a starting mmr. He is maphacking - There is no proof what so ever. And to accuse someone for maphacking when you have no proof must be the lowest thing you can do in the SC community, even lower than actually maphacking imo! Both are despicable acts, but the only one that is proven right now is the despicable accusations, really shame on you. He cannot have 80% win ratio, he is too bad/unknown/has not enough tournament wins - Naniwa was destroying the EPS before he was kicked out. He has by many been considered the top, or one of the top, EU protoss players since release. Looking at recent tournaments, he has been doing quite well. It's not possible to have that high win ratio as a pro - Please tell that to DeMuslim. Also it's quite funny how so many "good" players want to bring down this achievement as if Naniwa was bragging about it all over the world, proclaiming himself as the best player that has ever existed. Actually when asked the question by rakaka.se he replied: - haha, it's nothing special really, just a fun thing to do and it doesn't mean that I am the best  For those who have been following puckelrygg/meatyowllegs progress you can also tell that his win ratio has actually improved over the last 50 or so games. Which ofc is when he has had the toughest opponents. Opponents like SjoW, MorroW, TLO, Socke etc etc etc... name a top 10 EU player and he has faced him and, most likely, won. Damn, just close your bigoted eyes and look at the achievement alone, it's pretty darn impressive. Congratulations to the player who achieved this. | ||
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sVnteen
Germany2238 Posts
dont you think that the pros he plays against would notice if that guy would cheat? i mean they would know if they get hardcountered every game and they would start complaining about that thats not the job of the community i think but ... edit:: gz nani | ||
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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
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LittLeD
Sweden7973 Posts
On January 06 2011 01:26 rO_Or wrote: COD community is basically candy land. DOTA was filled with the most unhelpful and pretentious gamers while Counter Strike had "BM" that would make most SC players cry on the spot. The SC community is so nice and responsive it's kinda sickening because I'm used to such vile gaming communities. Not to even mention Gears of War, that has to be top 3 for worst communities. What exactly are you trying to imply? You can't possibly want the SC community to be more badmannered can you? Can't we all just agree, the more mannered and mature a community is, the better it is seen from a bigger perspective. | ||
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zine
Germany67 Posts
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BasedSwag
Algeria418 Posts
Even at LANs for most other games people talk shit to each other, which I don't think anyone in SC2 has a reputation for yet. | ||
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ChickenLips
2912 Posts
On January 06 2011 02:15 BasedSwag wrote: Yeah, these people who cry "bad manners" must have never played another online game before.. Nothing anyone has ever said at the end of a game of SC2 has ever fazed me. Even at LANs for most other games people talk shit to each other, which I don't think anyone in SC2 has a reputation for yet. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qtbxb6X3kYY&feature=related People like this being the norm at CS or whatever actually speaks against those games' communities. I mean look at this fat raging nerd calling people 'faggots'... If he was laughing & enjoying himself I'd be all for it I call friends all kinds of stuff on bnet and they know that im just kidding and laughing while typing that stuff. Here you have some loser who is actually visibly upset and he expresses himself by acting like a 12 year old. Thank god these idiots are in the minority in SC2. | ||
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Shinkugami
England74 Posts
On January 06 2011 00:06 floor exercise wrote: When he went forge first at his nexus vs TLO my initial reaction was kinda like "uhh this guy is good?" but maybe early pools are super popular on Basin I have no idea, haven't played this game in a long ass time. I couldn't imagine wanting to cannon the nat on basin since they'd just counter you. Not saying he cheats, I just found the game peculiar Haven't played the game for like one month, logged yesterday and still did fairly good in 3 games (even tho I lost them). I was at around 2K when I stopped playing and now that I relog I find my RTS-crippled skills to match people floating around the 2.8k mark... Overall skill and strategies haven't improved. At ALL. It is still the same dumbass turtle terran -> banshees or the protoss quick FE camp camp camp -> 4 colossus 1a. :/ | ||
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ChickenLips
2912 Posts
On January 06 2011 02:34 Shinkugami wrote: Haven't played the game for like one month, logged yesterday and still did fairly good in 3 games (even tho I lost them). I was at around 2K when I stopped playing and now that I relog I find my RTS-crippled skills to match people floating around the 2.8k mark... Overall skill and strategies haven't improved. At ALL. It is still the same dumbass turtle terran -> banshees or the protoss quick FE camp camp camp -> 4 colossus 1a. :/ 2.8k is garbage, even people I face at 3.1k are garbage (like garbage-garbage garbage) although it gets slightly better. This game is so new and everyone outside Korea is so bad that it's not very surprising. Good players and good strategies take time to surface. | ||
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eviltomahawk
United States11135 Posts
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SchAmToo
United States1141 Posts
On January 06 2011 00:59 cilinder007 wrote: the cod comunity wasnt like this a few years ago .....I miss the old days of Call of Duty 1 and United Offensive, such a gentlemen's game. I hate saying i played them because now i'm associated with the tyrants of CoDMW and what not. Call of Duty used to be such a good game... now...garbage =\ Edit; On topic, I still want to see an inquiry or revision on the whole bonus pool system... | ||
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Shinkugami
England74 Posts
On January 06 2011 01:16 reapsen wrote: I'm afraid i have to disagree. Behaving in a "bad" way is not necessarily linked to the age. Take Quakelive for example. I assume most of the players are well above 16, in fact i know a lot of Quakelivers between 25 and 35. And stuff that is considered as beeing "bm" in the SC Community is really not worth mentioning for most QL Players. As i came to SC2 during the beta in march and started to look into the community i was utterly suprised of the standards for "good behavior". Its like coming from a shabby hotdog stand to a 4-star-restaurant. Suddenly you have to obey this code of behaviour that you are not used to. For me, i am totally fine with beeing called a "nub" or beeing "lol"ed at. The same way i throw out the occasional "lol" myself. Of course i am fine with players leaving without "gg", why should that bother me? Most of the times i even find it quite amusing. So eventually i figured i wouldn't write anything in the chat at all, but even thats considered bm by most players. I mean come on, give me a break. Good manners are important for the pro's, as they represent their teams and stuff, but for 95% of casuals and amateur players, i don't care at all. At long last someone with enough video game background to understand that. To be honest this virtual bull "code of conduct" is more offensive than any bm anyone could ever throw around. I mean for people who made their way with video games like quake 1-2-3 tf/dota etc where death threats, racist abuse and totally rampant profanity, the "sc2 bm of not gg'ing or saying noob" is a total laughingstock and it truly puzzles me how anyone could be "offended" by such minor shit ? | ||
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