EPTMeatyOwlLegs first player to 4000 points! - Page 12
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On January 05 2011 16:44 frequency wrote: ITT: People are jealous that someone they don't like (even though it's only rumored to be Nani) is first in the world in ladder points. Jealousy? Seriously, no. I just have a problem with major douchebags setting records and being figureheads for the game. Also, it's not a rumor; check this thread for multiple sources of proof. There's nothing to like about this guy, there's no reason to cheer for him. He's approached gaming in the worst way possible, has done pretty much everything wrong he could and still got away with it, still is being supported in his behaviour and manner. That's ridiculous, it's sad, and it's a shame for the community. Most people here on TL agree that Esports is something good, an occupation/hobby that could use more popularity and general acceptance. People like Naniwa jeopardize this development, because he's the showcase example of the stereotypical gamer that throws his life, his education and his social contacts away just so he can play more. Cheer for him all you like, mock people criticizing him if you need to, but in the end, you're supporting the wrong person and you know it. | ||
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Reborn8u
United States1761 Posts
I went to sc2ranks and pulled up the top global players according to [point * ratio] on sc2 ranks. The 4th player on the list was ret, who can probably serve as a sort of control. His abilities are unquestionable. However some of the numbers look weird to me (how can people fly past a player like ret in points?). Please, don't call me stupid, I am just trying to pull some relevant data into the discussion. There seems to be a lot of random assumptions going on here. First of all, if you look at Meatyowllegs 3v3 games, Nani is a teammate one of them. + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://imgur.com/omzKr.png) So we can at least say for sure, nani knows who's account this is That out of the way, lets see the graph of our control, Ret. He came up as #4 globally on sc2ranks when sorted by [points*ratio] + Show Spoiler + (Red line indicates world rank, blue line is pts) ![[image loading]](http://imgur.com/6PEG3.png) Ret enters Diamond approximately oct 23rd with about 1400 pts, 74 days later he is about 3300pts Note: he has not played on this account in the last week Next this is the graph of Meatowllegs games the #1 player globally (he is on EU server) + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://imgur.com/avzGw.png) Meaty enters diamond near 1000 pts on Nov 1, 64 days ago, now having 4000pts This is the graph of the player who came up as #2 using the [point * ratio] sort on sc2 ranks, he is on the US server named "Goody" + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://imgur.com/RM45u.png) Goody enters diamond near 1200 pts on Dec 25th, 11 days ago, now having 3500 pts! This seems weird to me This is the graph of the #3 player "Kichi" who is on the EU server + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://imgur.com/VXJHf.png) Kichi enters diamond near 1500 pts Nov 7, 59 days ago, now having 3200 pts However, Look at the drastic point gains Well that's my contribution to the enigma of the point system, does anyone else see something wrong with these pictures?? (especially kichi's) | ||
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borny
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LenfaL
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http://sc2ranks.com/eu/203342/nAni He returned to his old account to do some 1v1 and got a pretty good winstreak. | ||
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ZombiesOMG
United States282 Posts
However, Look at the drastic point gains Did he really gain 786 points in 1 game? Or am I reading this wrong? Well that's my contribution to the enigma of the point system, does anyone else see something wrong with these pictures?? (especially kichi's) Idk why SC2 Ranks does that sort of thing but my profile has large point gains in that section as well. I don't ladder a ton, but I do see point gains 'between games' of +74, +52, etc. There was a +100something last week. But those point games seem to mirror how many points I gained in one day of laddering over 3-5 wins or w/e. I can tell you with confidence I've NEVER gained 74 points for one win, even though that section of sc2ranks looks that way. Gotta be something funky with how they run the site. Must run all point gains within a very short time period together for brevity's sake since that section is so small. | ||
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Goolpsy
Denmark301 Posts
So shouldn't it be possible to spend 350 of bonus pool in that time? (20-40 games won) | ||
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corpsepose
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On January 05 2011 17:39 LenfaL wrote: Seems like nAniwa found the protoss' key to success. http://sc2ranks.com/eu/203342/nAni He returned to his old account to do some 1v1 and got a pretty good winstreak. that would be impressive but it looks like he's sitting at 2.6k points after that huge win streak, which is basically considered mid-diamond or so. if he was mostly playing players in that echelon of skill then im honestly not surprised he racked up that many consecutive wins | ||
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Befree
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My biggest criticism of the situation is the low amount of games played. Just as a Bo7 is more indicative of skill than a Bo1, I'd imagine the mere 223 games played may be giving a less than accurate measure of ability. Especially when you consider that a portion of these games would have been played against lower level players as well. I suppose it is the bonus pool which allows for such sudden high ratings so I guess I will join in on that side of the argument. If something somewhat close to this win ratio/points (adding in inflation of course) were able to be maintained over a few hundred more games, I'd be much more willing to concede this to be a deserving achievement. But as it stands, I feel his ability on this account has not been extensively tested enough to rule out the effects of randomness/luck. On another note, I really hate that we have to call these points rather than rating. Perhaps such a situation like this could dissuade blizzard from using this bonus pool system and use a more standard rating system. If this truly is deserving, though, congratulations to him. But if he is as bad of a person as people are claiming, I really hope he tries to change his ways. | ||
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Reborn8u
United States1761 Posts
On January 05 2011 17:39 LenfaL wrote: Seems like nAniwa found the protoss' key to success. http://sc2ranks.com/eu/203342/nAni He returned to his old account to do some 1v1 and got a pretty good winstreak. WOW, you're right. Damn, whats his secret! How much for a lesson! Nice catch for a first post btw! ![[image loading]](http://imgur.com/uMeNX.png) Nani is in straight beast mode at the moment! I would love to see some replays! | ||
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YourMom
Romania565 Posts
On January 05 2011 10:17 GaussRoffle wrote: Q: How do these tiers impact matchmaking and points received per game? A: They don't. Matchmaking is determined by your MMR versus your opponent's MMR, and the point values per game is determined by your opponent's MMR versus your adjusted (division modifiers excluded) rating. from Z_Excalibur's division tiers thread. As much as I want to believe that his being in a "weak" division contributed toward his point total, it just seems like he somehow kept a relatively low MMR to his opponents long enough to get those +48 games in a decent number. Bleh, I hope it doesn't become a trend for a pro to get a new account before a reset or when bonus is pool is turned off (something blizzard plans to do in future ladders) and try to rush up to some absurd amount of points on a relatively low amount of games. Just feels like a complete mockery of the ladder for the people with games in the thousands sitting around 2900 and 3000 He kept a low MMR because that account is shared by his friend who does a lot of team games. MMR is one and the same for 1v1 as for team games (which kinda sux). | ||
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Reborn8u
United States1761 Posts
On January 05 2011 17:59 YourMom wrote: He kept a low MMR because that account is shared by his friend who does a lot of team games. MMR is one and the same for 1v1 as for team games (which kinda sux). So your saying this + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://imgur.com/s7lYr.png) is the reason for this + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://imgur.com/5iDkB.png) Damn, Im diamond in 1v1,2v2,3v3,4v4, No wonder I keep getting 2200 to 2600 pt diamonds in 1v1 when I'm only a 1000 pt diamond (makes it kinda tough for me to advance!) Well, I'm off to de-rank all my team games to bronze! | ||
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Goolpsy
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