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Keitzer
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2509 Posts
January 03 2011 21:11 GMT
#41
imo, the OP should contact Blizzard and see what's up.. or maybe prodiG, since hey, everyone who keeps asking to contact iCCup, he's part of iCCup....
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StuBob
Profile Joined March 2010
United States373 Posts
January 03 2011 21:11 GMT
#42
I would love this
I play RANDOM!
prodiG
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada2016 Posts
January 03 2011 21:12 GMT
#43
On January 04 2011 06:10 Keitzer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2011 06:08 prodiG wrote:
If someone can prove to me that Blizzard is fine with this sort of thing, I am willing to consider it.


see, prodiG, that's where i'd love to come in and show you a full transcript of blizzard's words, but i just don't have that...



i know that it seems oh see legit, but at the same time oh so sketchy.

When I say proof I mean reaching out to blizzard and asking them if that sort of thing is okay. I might actually just do it myself 8)
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Keitzer
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2509 Posts
January 03 2011 21:14 GMT
#44
On January 04 2011 06:12 prodiG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2011 06:10 Keitzer wrote:
On January 04 2011 06:08 prodiG wrote:
If someone can prove to me that Blizzard is fine with this sort of thing, I am willing to consider it.


see, prodiG, that's where i'd love to come in and show you a full transcript of blizzard's words, but i just don't have that...



i know that it seems oh see legit, but at the same time oh so sketchy.

When I say proof I mean reaching out to blizzard and asking them if that sort of thing is okay. I might actually just do it myself 8)


yaya, i know what you mean, just that i don't think anyone has contacted them about this (since it's fairly recent post i'm not surprised)

if we really wanna hear their say, the sooner the better since so many people are getting (and will get) hyped about this whole project.
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Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
January 03 2011 21:22 GMT
#45
On January 04 2011 06:14 Keitzer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2011 06:12 prodiG wrote:
On January 04 2011 06:10 Keitzer wrote:
On January 04 2011 06:08 prodiG wrote:
If someone can prove to me that Blizzard is fine with this sort of thing, I am willing to consider it.


see, prodiG, that's where i'd love to come in and show you a full transcript of blizzard's words, but i just don't have that...



i know that it seems oh see legit, but at the same time oh so sketchy.

When I say proof I mean reaching out to blizzard and asking them if that sort of thing is okay. I might actually just do it myself 8)


yaya, i know what you mean, just that i don't think anyone has contacted them about this (since it's fairly recent post i'm not surprised)

if we really wanna hear their say, the sooner the better since so many people are getting (and will get) hyped about this whole project.


I can't really see why they would be against it. It's almost the same thing as having in-game leaderboards/stats that save between games, except you need a client to collect the information as it is happening across different maps. This can also easily exist within the framework of Bnet 2.0, so it's not like Blizzard is going to be losing any money. In fact, they may be making money, if word of mouth spreads and this attracts people who wouldn't want to play the Blizz ladder, but are fans of Iccup.
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tnud
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Sweden2233 Posts
January 03 2011 21:24 GMT
#46
On January 04 2011 06:22 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2011 06:14 Keitzer wrote:
On January 04 2011 06:12 prodiG wrote:
On January 04 2011 06:10 Keitzer wrote:
On January 04 2011 06:08 prodiG wrote:
If someone can prove to me that Blizzard is fine with this sort of thing, I am willing to consider it.


see, prodiG, that's where i'd love to come in and show you a full transcript of blizzard's words, but i just don't have that...



i know that it seems oh see legit, but at the same time oh so sketchy.

When I say proof I mean reaching out to blizzard and asking them if that sort of thing is okay. I might actually just do it myself 8)


yaya, i know what you mean, just that i don't think anyone has contacted them about this (since it's fairly recent post i'm not surprised)

if we really wanna hear their say, the sooner the better since so many people are getting (and will get) hyped about this whole project.


I can't really see why they would be against it. It's almost the same thing as having in-game leaderboards/stats that save between games, except you need a client to collect the information as it is happening across different maps. This can also easily exist within the framework of Bnet 2.0, so it's not like Blizzard is going to be losing any money. In fact, they may be making money, if word of mouth spreads and this attracts people who wouldn't want to play the Blizz ladder, but are fans of Iccup.

You'd be surprised how the mind of a huge ass company works...
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Noxie
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2227 Posts
January 03 2011 21:24 GMT
#47
Its interesting.. and I see so much potential.. I am just not sure now is the right time to introduce this. I think the ladder is doing its purpose as of now, and blizzard will be in full support of it for a while.
jcroisdale
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States1543 Posts
January 03 2011 21:24 GMT
#48
this is so weird i was thinking of something similar to this last night while taking a shower crazy how the next day you made this post.
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dementrio
Profile Joined November 2010
678 Posts
January 03 2011 21:26 GMT
#49
I think a chat bot would be handy for matchmaking. since the custom games section wont let you decide who you play against, and you can't really have 100 versions of every map to split up skill levels, what we are left with is having everyone spam "D+ msg me" in a chat room
Gnome983
Profile Joined December 2010
Albania39 Posts
January 03 2011 21:28 GMT
#50
I like the idea a lot whether or not it will come through is something else, gogo F-A rankings.
asdas45
Mindcrime
Profile Joined July 2004
United States6899 Posts
January 03 2011 21:29 GMT
#51
On January 04 2011 05:59 Keitzer wrote:
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On January 04 2011 05:47 dementrio wrote:
with the upcoming chat channels will it be possible to connect to the channels using a client other than starcraft (one that would allow a bot to be scripted)?


what does that have to do with a custom ladder?


ever heard of wgt?
That wasn't any act of God. That was an act of pure human fuckery.
Keitzer
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2509 Posts
January 03 2011 21:40 GMT
#52
On January 04 2011 06:26 dementrio wrote:
I think a chat bot would be handy for matchmaking. since the custom games section wont let you decide who you play against, and you can't really have 100 versions of every map to split up skill levels, what we are left with is having everyone spam "D+ msg me" in a chat room


you wouldn't need 100 of each map... just 1. 1 that connected with the server and added or subtracted based on the results and who was playing against who.


and no i've never heard of wgt. looking it up now.
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echO [W]
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1495 Posts
January 03 2011 21:46 GMT
#53
I have a question about this, I realize Blizzard didn't care about iCCup for BW, what would Blizzard stand to lose should they partner with iCCup and create an iCCup ladder all official like and on the up and up?

Would it be a lost in terms of reputation (lol), rather than a financial loss?
"Or a school bus over a bunch of kids" - Tasteless --- “A man's errors are his portals of discovery.” - James Joyce
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
January 03 2011 21:52 GMT
#54
On January 04 2011 06:46 echO [W] wrote:
I have a question about this, I realize Blizzard didn't care about iCCup for BW, what would Blizzard stand to lose should they partner with iCCup and create an iCCup ladder all official like and on the up and up?

Would it be a lost in terms of reputation (lol), rather than a financial loss?

It would essentially be a slap to the face for all of blizzards mapmaking and ladder designers, as well as bnet .02 in general. Basically it would be akin to them saying: "ok, we fucked up, battle.net sucks and we are completely inept, so we'll have the people who actually know what they are doing help us out."

It also gives them less control over the ladder system, and destroys their planned bnet ladder into supertournament strategy.
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echO [W]
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1495 Posts
January 03 2011 21:57 GMT
#55
On January 04 2011 06:52 Two_DoWn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2011 06:46 echO [W] wrote:
I have a question about this, I realize Blizzard didn't care about iCCup for BW, what would Blizzard stand to lose should they partner with iCCup and create an iCCup ladder all official like and on the up and up?

Would it be a lost in terms of reputation (lol), rather than a financial loss?

It would essentially be a slap to the face for all of blizzards mapmaking and ladder designers, as well as bnet .02 in general. Basically it would be akin to them saying: "ok, we fucked up, battle.net sucks and we are completely inept, so we'll have the people who actually know what they are doing help us out."

It also gives them less control over the ladder system, and destroys their planned bnet ladder into supertournament strategy.


I hope Blizzard considers Starcraft 2's HEALTHY longevity while they consider their own reputation. Say they decide to partner with iCCup, while they suffer a slap to the face now, I'm certain in 5-6 years down the line we'll look back and applaud a decision to partner with iCCup.

Lets hope they actually think long and hard about this and not just brush it off.
"Or a school bus over a bunch of kids" - Tasteless --- “A man's errors are his portals of discovery.” - James Joyce
dementrio
Profile Joined November 2010
678 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-03 22:01:51
January 03 2011 21:59 GMT
#56
On January 04 2011 06:40 Keitzer wrote:

you wouldn't need 100 of each map... just 1. 1 that connected with the server and added or subtracted based on the results and who was playing against who.


and no i've never heard of wgt. looking it up now.


the point of a ladder would be that players are ranked and you play people who are around your skill level. you can't do that with how the custom game lobby works; you have to create and invite people, or play whoever decides to join the map otherwise. a bot that hears you saying "i want to play" and answers "random guy around your level is waiting for a game" would help.
One that creates games itself and invites players would be better but if the chat channels work under some known protocol a channel bot would be much easier to script.
Keitzer
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2509 Posts
January 03 2011 22:00 GMT
#57
On January 04 2011 06:57 echO [W] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2011 06:52 Two_DoWn wrote:
On January 04 2011 06:46 echO [W] wrote:
I have a question about this, I realize Blizzard didn't care about iCCup for BW, what would Blizzard stand to lose should they partner with iCCup and create an iCCup ladder all official like and on the up and up?

Would it be a lost in terms of reputation (lol), rather than a financial loss?

It would essentially be a slap to the face for all of blizzards mapmaking and ladder designers, as well as bnet .02 in general. Basically it would be akin to them saying: "ok, we fucked up, battle.net sucks and we are completely inept, so we'll have the people who actually know what they are doing help us out."

It also gives them less control over the ladder system, and destroys their planned bnet ladder into supertournament strategy.


I hope Blizzard considers Starcraft 2's HEALTHY longevity while they consider their own reputation. Say they decide to partner with iCCup, while they suffer a slap to the face now, I'm certain in 5-6 years down the line we'll look back and applaud a decision to partner with iCCup.

Lets hope they actually think long and hard about this and not just brush it off.


which might be the reason we don't hear back from them for a few days (that or they just don't feel like answering due to laziness)
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lofung
Profile Joined October 2010
Hong Kong298 Posts
January 03 2011 22:08 GMT
#58
sure i would love to join it after i get all my wanted protriats
How do you counter 13 carriers? Well first of all you gave me brain cancer. -Tasteless
Darksoldierr
Profile Joined May 2010
Hungary2013 Posts
January 03 2011 22:10 GMT
#59
Blizz wont like you, using the amazing Bnet 2.0 and not playing on its ladder, thats a big minus 50 dkp
What do humans know of our pain? We have sung songs of lament since before your ancestors crawled on their bellies from the sea.
crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
January 03 2011 22:14 GMT
#60
this would be really cool and not only make matches more enjoyable (pick map/race) but also give a better scope on your skill. I'm sorry but diamond rankings under about 3100 its a crap shoot if the player is good or not.

A custom ladder with another A-D system would be so much fun. Also NO BLIZZARD MAPS!!
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