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asin
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia24 Posts
February 23 2011 22:15 GMT
#901
great job with getting all the pros on btw... much appreciated and can't stress enough how great that is for all the sc2 community
synapse
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-23 23:58:11
February 23 2011 22:46 GMT
#902
I'm enjoying them tunes

EDIT: Okay honestly, I MUST know where you are getting this music. So good ~
:)
Twitches
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada365 Posts
February 23 2011 22:47 GMT
#903
im falling behind on some of these videos, but they've been amazing from the beginning. Thanks Mr.Bitter, you are a gentleman and a scholar.

This content quite frankly kicks ass.. Thanks again =)
Gravity is just a feeble plot.
Klonere
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Ireland4123 Posts
February 23 2011 22:56 GMT
#904
On February 24 2011 07:47 .Theory wrote:
im falling behind on some of these videos, but they've been amazing from the beginning. Thanks Mr.Bitter, you are a gentleman and a scholar.

This content quite frankly kicks ass.. Thanks again =)


I second this, I really need to catch up but damn Mr.Bitter you are unreal.

Also, you seem to have an impeccable taste in music .Theory
Zerokaiser
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada885 Posts
February 24 2011 01:12 GMT
#905
On February 24 2011 07:46 synapse wrote:
I'm enjoying them tunes

EDIT: Okay honestly, I MUST know where you are getting this music. So good ~


MrBitter gets his music from http://vip.aersia.net/vip.swf
Lanaia is love.
TomSturgis_
Profile Joined January 2011
United States20 Posts
February 24 2011 03:11 GMT
#906
On February 22 2011 06:57 MrBitter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2011 06:56 Valette1565 wrote:
Thank you Mr. Bitter, this show is extremely insightful and useful. We can only hope a show like yours will appear for terran and protoss. Thank you ! ! !


All things in time!

We're already planning a Protoss segment for when the Zerg show ends.

edit:

Also, the TLO VOD just started converting. It should be watchable within the hour:
http://mrbitter.blip.tv/file/4795574/

Thats awesome to hear. I main protoss but I have watched almost every episode you do (even the zvts and zvzs). I'm always yelling at my roommate (who mains zerg) and trying to tell him how to play zerg. Seriously though, you are a treasure to the community.
Logginurkeyz
Profile Joined September 2010
United States375 Posts
February 24 2011 03:55 GMT
#907
I suppose it should be noted- but Cella will not be starting in 5 minutes- it will be in 1hour and 5minutes... Scheduling miscommunication...

Fret Not, TeamLiquid stream-watching community! Cella WILL be here... just an hour later than the calendar says...
Jemag... Jemag... you're like an alcoholic telling me why you drink... you have your reasons, but it's still bad... <3 iNcontroL
phnix
Profile Joined September 2010
United States45 Posts
February 24 2011 16:16 GMT
#908
Will the be an episode about how to deal with the PvZ from Imbalanced. VR+ Colossus with little gateway support. Not sure if that Aquanda episode was supposed to deal with that or not.
Alg
Profile Joined July 2010
Hungary111 Posts
February 24 2011 18:33 GMT
#909
Just wanted to thank you (and all of the guys involved) for this awesome show - i found it after I got demoted from diamond (after 2 months without even launching the game)

Now i can finally beat P, understand ZvZ and have fun in all of the matchups again. Great, great stuff, kepp it up!
"What is the build order to 'roach ling all-in'? Build until you're max" - MrBitter
SCbiff
Profile Joined May 2010
110 Posts
February 24 2011 19:50 GMT
#910
On February 23 2011 06:15 Xorphene wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2011 05:45 Mr. Wiggles wrote:

You could get IdrA too, that'd be cool, if you could afford it, or he wanted to. :p (If what the guy said about IdrA being interested in infestor ZvT is true).


IdrA has already been on the show, three times.


WOW, that's amazing! But somebody should get IdrA on the show ASAP!

=P

In seriousness though, these have been great. Thanks for sharing with all of us.
ALPINA
Profile Joined May 2010
3791 Posts
February 24 2011 20:28 GMT
#911
I just watched aquanda's vod and I think that he opening is really not good. I mean he gets his evo pretty late, so he can't get +1 ready when 4 gate comes and he does not get baneling nest vs. 4 gate either. I prefer going either very fast +1 or fast baneling nest.
You should never underestimate the predictability of stupidity
ABOOMAN
Profile Joined October 2010
Burma156 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-24 21:12:41
February 24 2011 21:03 GMT
#912
loved aquanda's vod, my zvp now forming to be much more solid than playing standard roach 2base midgame into later 3rd, it definatly feels more "zergy" and less like u are a terran on expansion going for a timing push


Cellas vod was extremly fun to watch :D But when you youself started to play it really showed the weakness of the infestor build all around.
Basicly you are saying that infestor build is more forgiving and u need a pro control for muta harass to work. I disagree with this 100%, in my opinion for this 2x evo ling infestor build to work u need 3x more apm and insane multitasking and micro.

I am 3k master zerg with about 150apm and i still feel pretty hopeless vs terrans who just decide to mass medivacs and drop 3-4 places at once while macroing behind siege tank lanes. I've tried to rush for overlord speed and spread them out but its still so extremely hard to watch minimap every 5 seconds for red dots

3-3 Ultra's transition is nice in some games, but in others it feels like your last hope to get back any sort of a momentum, it gets kinda countered by a nice sim city expansions and walloffs and make me cry

To sum up i agree with Idra on this build that it gives too much control of the game in the hands of terran, he has opinion either to slowly expand everywhere or drop you until your macro/apm finally slips and u will fall behind. And if he is macroing really well he doesnt even need to watch/micro his drops, like 1 medivac with 4-5 marines on each base at some point will cost him absolutely nothing and he can click drop on the minimap and forget about it while you need to be on top of everything always

Sorry for a rant, its an interesting build but i think its somewhat gimmicky and really made me rage alot trying to work with it. It really gives you perspective and shows that mutas are popular for a reason and not just "coz they good"



It would be nice to have a ZvT centric vod again using the more standard muta style and current metagame trends focusing on countering popular terran openings such as 2rax CC into marine/tanks, hellions into CC into pure mech or bio/mech and CC 1st into MASS rax crazy marine rally pressure. If i could choose a pro to get into that it will probably be a machine or someone with similiar style, someone who can really focus on timing and specifics of countering terran's early to midgame plan


Thats ofc just a personal preference tho. Forgot to say that what you doing is amazing :D
lolo
BlackOmega
Profile Joined August 2010
United States26 Posts
February 24 2011 21:04 GMT
#913
Can't wait to see the new videos, once they are posted. This has been a great series for a lil bronzer like me.
aquanda
Profile Joined January 2003
United States477 Posts
February 24 2011 21:12 GMT
#914
On February 25 2011 05:28 Alpina wrote:
I just watched aquanda's vod and I think that he opening is really not good. I mean he gets his evo pretty late, so he can't get +1 ready when 4 gate comes and he does not get baneling nest vs. 4 gate either. I prefer going either very fast +1 or fast baneling nest.

The build isn't meant to counter 4 gate, you don't put down another hatchery until you know he's expanding. If you scout 4 gate you do whatever you can to live which usually includes spines or roach.
decaf
Profile Joined October 2010
Austria1797 Posts
February 24 2011 21:19 GMT
#915
You could do the Immortal, HT, (Blink) Stalker build with Incontrol
ALPINA
Profile Joined May 2010
3791 Posts
February 24 2011 21:19 GMT
#916
On February 25 2011 06:12 aquanda wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2011 05:28 Alpina wrote:
I just watched aquanda's vod and I think that he opening is really not good. I mean he gets his evo pretty late, so he can't get +1 ready when 4 gate comes and he does not get baneling nest vs. 4 gate either. I prefer going either very fast +1 or fast baneling nest.

The build isn't meant to counter 4 gate, you don't put down another hatchery until you know he's expanding. If you scout 4 gate you do whatever you can to live which usually includes spines or roach.


Thx for answer. Ahh well then it's pretty hard to defend 4 gate I think. Recently I was facing 3 gate fake expand build where toss gets a lot of sentries from actually 4 gates (1 hidden) and he is faking expand and then pushes and adds zealots/stalkers, so you won't have roaches in time I guess and invested money into +1 is useless at that moment so defending mass sentry push is very hard (even with banelings).
You should never underestimate the predictability of stupidity
aquanda
Profile Joined January 2003
United States477 Posts
February 24 2011 21:29 GMT
#917
Yah, although I'd argue that almost any econ focused build would have a hard time dealing with a 4 gate. The most important aspect of any game is the information gained from scouting.
Angelbelow
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3728 Posts
February 24 2011 22:59 GMT
#918
Hey guys, what was the pornstar interview MrBitter and TLO referenced to? I tried to do a search for "pornstar" but it didnt work out.
You may delay, but time will not. Current Music obsession: Opeth
Logginurkeyz
Profile Joined September 2010
United States375 Posts
February 24 2011 23:20 GMT
#919
On February 25 2011 07:59 Angelbelow wrote:
Hey guys, what was the pornstar interview MrBitter and TLO referenced to? I tried to do a search for "pornstar" but it didnt work out.


The thread title on TL is: "[NSFW] Porn star talks StarCraft"
Jemag... Jemag... you're like an alcoholic telling me why you drink... you have your reasons, but it's still bad... <3 iNcontroL
hunts
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2113 Posts
February 25 2011 01:10 GMT
#920
whoo titan next week! :D extremely awesome and extremely underrated zerg!
twitch.tv/huntstv 7x legend streamer
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