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Carl_Sagan
Profile Joined March 2010
United States226 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-30 02:05:39
November 30 2010 01:34 GMT
#1
So I'm a zerg playing against a terran on steppes of war, and after fending off a double bunker on my ramp and a 3rax allin, I roll over his army with a bunch of banelings.

I'm feeling great about myself having just beaten a terran on steppes of war, when my opponent then proceeds to type "Banelings OP" and a window pops up on my screen. It said "waiting for server," with a button saying "surrender" on it. I've never seen this screen before. I eventually had to press surrender.

Did I just have some horrible luck with a weird battlenet glitch, or are there drop hacks going around?

**it appears battlenet was simply having issues that many other people were also experiencing, and I just happened to be winning decisively when it happened*
Ksyper
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Bulgaria665 Posts
November 30 2010 01:36 GMT
#2
How much time did you wait before you pressed surrender?
That screen pops up when you lag usually, maybe your internet provider did something wrong or something.
AndrewZorn
Profile Joined November 2010
United States56 Posts
November 30 2010 01:37 GMT
#3
A lot of people are getting this right now, I know I did (confirmed on Blizzard forums).
SoaDMTGguy
Profile Joined September 2010
United States47 Posts
November 30 2010 01:38 GMT
#4
I had this same thing happen. I was playing a game with a friend of mine and just as I was about to nuke his base, we both got the "waiting for server" error. It appears to be a Battle.net issue.
Reason.SC2
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1047 Posts
November 30 2010 01:38 GMT
#5
lol please use the search function.

There's already a thread for this: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=151244

Also you should include a replay before you publicly accuse someone of being a hacker.

Also, do you have any reason to believe that the drop had nothing to do with you losing connectivity or your internet briefly cutting out?

Anyways this thread will be closed soon please think more before posting is the moral of the story
RaLakedaimon
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1564 Posts
November 30 2010 01:39 GMT
#6
That happens to a ton of people and i think whether or not someoen has a hack to make it happen to a specific person has yet to be found out i do know its happend to me before maybe six or seven times since release and often it happens on days when the server is going to be turned off or however its called for maintenance or a patch. Whether or not someones using a hack i have heard rumors of it before but never seen any thing posted on the blizzard forums about whether or not its a real thing, even if it is you can kinda rest assure that the person or whoever created the hack will be "punished" if you can call losing 60 bucks a punishment. Not a ton of info but i hope this helps
Carl_Sagan
Profile Joined March 2010
United States226 Posts
November 30 2010 01:46 GMT
#7
I actually did a search for "Drop hack" and didn't find anything useful. It appears to be a battlenet problem though, and I just happened to get hit by it at a really bad time.

As I said Reason.SC2, I'd never had this happen and it seems coincidental for it to happen right as somebody yells "BANELING OP!" as I'm winning.
ch33psh33p
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
7650 Posts
November 30 2010 02:06 GMT
#8
Bnet problem, going on right now.
secret - never again
Shadowolf
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada12 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-30 02:07:38
November 30 2010 02:06 GMT
#9
There was a really good post on SC2 networking principles a while but for the life of me I can't find it. It might have been a tangent in another thread.

Anyways in principle no drop hacks shouldn't be possible , unlike SC:BW ;SC2 isn't peered. you don't have a direct connection to your opponent. Everything runs through battle.net which acts as a middle man.

Because of this level of indirection between clients there no way to really disrupt your opponents connection i.e. some kind of DOS attack or Forged UDP packet
Mortis
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States217 Posts
November 30 2010 02:10 GMT
#10
On November 30 2010 11:06 Shadowolf wrote:
There was a really good post on SC2 networking principles a while but for the life of me I can't find it. It might have been a tangent in another thread.

Anyways in principle no drop hacks shouldn't be possible , unlike SC:BW ;SC2 isn't peered. you don't have a direct connection to your opponent. Everything runs through battle.net which acts as a middle man.

Because of this level of indirection between clients there no way to really disrupt your opponents connection i.e. some kind of DOS attack or Forged UDP packet

Drop hacks definitely do exist in SC2. I know the thread you're referring to and they went back and said their post was incorrect.
TheGiftedApe
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1243 Posts
November 30 2010 02:14 GMT
#11
I get this atleast once a week, randomly in games, team games, 1v1, coop, custom games, doesnt seem to matter just happens randomly I drop, dont even get kicked out of bnet. Heres the crazy part:

When in team games 2v2 3v3 4v4 with my friends, I can TALK TO THEM ON VOICE CHAT while being dropped, I haev a couple screen shots of me getting a 15mbps downlaod speed on a speed test during the dropout..
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KrosKoua
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada3 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-09 09:19:29
March 09 2011 09:18 GMT
#12
I wanted to bring this thread back again for there are people who actually abuses drophacks for an easy win. This is a message I've posted on Blizzard forum and their support forum:

So I encountered a rare drophack that I havent seen since SC broodwar. basically character name sLy, using a throwaway account Slybone has been abusing wins using drophacks with his buddies Youreatowel and MaKo.

Basically the drophack says the person is slowing down the game and kicks us off one by one until we are eliminated. His friend MaKo has even admitted that his buddy was hacking and we shouldnt report for it was a 'One Time' thing. However I did create a lynch mob by finding the people who they 've dropped using their match history and made them report all 3 of them.

However when I started digging deeper, I was able to learn that slybone was merely a throwaway account from his match history and soon learned his main account is sLy. sLy's account 3648 league wins which I was quite impressed and made me wondered what could have made him actually use a hack to win, but when I even dug deeper, in his match history all of his games were less than 30 seconds and he always somehow won, and when I checked his name through www.sc2ranks.com, his account was nowhere to be found which was really fishy since he has 6100+ games played alone in 1v1. So I'm really expecting Blizzard to fix this problem quick and ban this player so he won't be able to make people frustrated and angry.

If you are curious, go to my match history and find them and look at THEIR match history

TL;DR A player uses hacks the past few thousands of games and still isn't banned or even dealt with made me curious why and how blizzard hasn't made a move yet.
Team Kros
Argoneus
Profile Joined July 2009
Czech Republic283 Posts
March 09 2011 09:35 GMT
#13
Blizzard acts like they dont see it, making up lists, and then they ban thousands of people at once.
Terran OP
Hellhammer
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada144 Posts
March 09 2011 09:52 GMT
#14
On March 09 2011 18:35 Argoneus wrote:
Blizzard acts like they dont see it, making up lists, and then they ban thousands of people at once.

+1 Probably next patch we may see a wave of bans.
If Jesus comes, kill him again.
Phayze
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada2029 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-09 09:53:57
March 09 2011 09:52 GMT
#15
Drop hacks in the generic sense are impossible as every game is controlled server sided. You failed to show the actual profile of the individual you are accusing (there are 20+ sLy's on sc2ranks, and none of them have over 1500 games played or a >70% win rate). Show the battlenet profile etc, it's not hard to get an identifier.
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DaCruise
Profile Joined July 2010
Denmark2457 Posts
March 09 2011 10:01 GMT
#16
I hope drop hack is harder to make in SC2 than in WC3. In WC3 1/3 of the playerbase ended up using drop hack. In response an anti-drop hack hack was made and it was really a requirement to install it if you wanted a playable game.
KrosKoua
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada3 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-09 10:06:57
March 09 2011 10:06 GMT
#17
Again I wasn't able to find his actual profile on Bnet so here's a screenshot

http://i.imgur.com/NFyfL.jpg
Team Kros
Baarn
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2702 Posts
March 09 2011 10:10 GMT
#18
This happens sometimes for me and I just wait until they leave before I click on anything. It's pretty stupid you get a "surrender" button because some closes the game (rage quits.)
There's no S in KT. :P
BadWolf0
Profile Joined September 2010
United States300 Posts
March 09 2011 10:13 GMT
#19
there was a guy streamin a while back who actually demonstrated drop hacks nap hacks and a buncha other stuff. threads got closed about it too... Blizzard'll take care of it in a big wave probly when they figure out how he did it/how to block it hopefully...
All hail the Queen!!!
Mentalizor
Profile Joined January 2011
Denmark1596 Posts
March 09 2011 10:15 GMT
#20
On March 09 2011 19:06 KrosKoua wrote:
Again I wasn't able to find his actual profile on Bnet so here's a screenshot

http://i.imgur.com/NFyfL.jpg


This doesn't look like a good win/loss rate at all - especially not if he's using hacks. Are you sure he's just not wintrading in bottom bronze - like tons of other players? It's really common to wintrade in bottom bronze just for achievements
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