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AmiPolizeiFunk
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany804 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-27 15:57:09
November 27 2010 15:56 GMT
#21
On November 28 2010 00:47 razy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2010 00:03 maybe wrote:
my guess is it has to do something with theire criminal records


xDD
srsly guys ^^ he is like one of the most kind ppl in the world how can u claim such things when u even don't know him

Back in BW days Bratok was taken to russian army despite having some serious disease (and official documents proving it ofc but it's russia) then his friends\team managed to take him out of it somehow and he went ahead practicing ftw. His first visa deny was to Germany in 2008 and the official reason was "having no occupation after finishing college or university" (2 other finalists were denied btw so instead of having russia WCG08:BW top3 players perform we had top4-6 in the grand finals lol).

Some time after he went to Dreamhack winter using Finnish visa (that's how they usually do it in Saints Petersburg ^^). Due to crisis only he and his manager were able to go there out of whole team.

So when it came up to getting German visa again to go to IEM he got denied cause of some problem that popped out inb4 there was 1 day left for the tourney to start: German consul demanded the ESL CEO's inviting letter to be notary insured (or w/e is it called). There were several other strange requirements from him and ESL CEO had to send inviting letter 2 times using express delivery and stuff. Tones of calls to German embassy in Russia from ESL officials and rox's team managers didn't make that big of a difference.

When it came up to getting visa again for DH recently but he used his passport so guys in Finland saw 2 C1 denials (one of the most strict ones afaik) in German embassy. U can understand why he didn't get to Sweden the 2nd time. Although the official reason was "srs rule violation while using finnish visa before" but his manager traveled the exact same route Bratok did and was able to get his visa successfully.

I heard Bruce talking about this on diff streams. So it should be at least 90% true (knowing Bruce xD <3)


Thanks for the answers razy! It's fucked that previous denials now red-flag him for current requests. That just messed up.
out4blood
Profile Joined July 2010
United States313 Posts
November 27 2010 15:59 GMT
#22
On November 28 2010 00:18 gm.tOSS wrote:
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On November 28 2010 00:03 maybe wrote:
my guess is it has to do something with theire criminal records

Cheap call based on nothing but prejudice.

He might be suggesting it is based on the guy's repeated inability to secure a visa. Sure there can be trouble once in a while, but to be unable to travel multiple times? There's some other reason.
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Zandar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands1541 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-27 16:07:25
November 27 2010 16:06 GMT
#23
Can't we help the guy in some way? Like sending a petition to these embassies or some European union bureaucrat. And have that petition signed by all team liquid visitors, husky viewers etc?
They might start to listen when so many people are complaining
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
razy
Profile Joined February 2010
Russian Federation899 Posts
November 27 2010 16:16 GMT
#24
On November 28 2010 01:06 Zandar wrote:
Can't we help the guy in some way? Like sending a petition to these embassies or some European union bureaucrat. And have that petition signed by all team liquid visitors, husky viewers etc?
They might start to listen when so many people are complaining


i think his team manager's had enough of this troubles and they promised to deal w/ the prob so don't worry
Piski
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Finland3461 Posts
November 27 2010 16:39 GMT
#25
Hope they get it fixed soon. He is one of the best Terrans out there.
MasterFischer
Profile Joined August 2009
Denmark836 Posts
November 27 2010 17:14 GMT
#26
Brat okay is cool.
WHO is this who speaks to me as though I needed his advice?
Pulimuli
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Sweden2766 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-27 17:41:18
November 27 2010 17:40 GMT
#27
He's obviously a KGB agent

anyhow i really like his games, sucks that he couldnt participate
Rannasha
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Netherlands2398 Posts
November 27 2010 17:41 GMT
#28
I guess someone told the authorities that Brat_OK has access to nuclear friggin bombs
Such flammable little insects!
PhiliBiRD
Profile Joined November 2009
United States2643 Posts
November 27 2010 17:55 GMT
#29
On November 28 2010 00:06 OPSavioR wrote:
I dont think a starcarft nerd can be a terrorist.


i think anyone can be anyone they want
Patriot.dlk
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Sweden5462 Posts
November 27 2010 17:57 GMT
#30
Well sweden won't give it if they suspect he might stay here.
NexUmbra
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Scotland3776 Posts
November 27 2010 18:02 GMT
#31
Hope to see more from him at LANs in the future, he is very good ^^

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Condor
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Netherlands188 Posts
November 27 2010 18:03 GMT
#32
Jokes aside, it is true that having visa problems once will make it next to impossible to ever get a visa again. Just as the reverse is true, getting the first one is a hassle, then the next one is much easier.

Sucks for Brat_OK (and anyone having the same problem). He's probably going to need some "inside help" (such as ESL CEO intervention) in order to get this mess straightened out.
Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-27 18:08:23
November 27 2010 18:03 GMT
#33
The only Russian people allowed in Europe are KGB operatives, mobsters and whores.
I'm sorry for Brat_Ok but he is a starcraft player, this is way too suspicious.
fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
ggrrg
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Bulgaria2716 Posts
November 27 2010 18:10 GMT
#34
On November 28 2010 03:03 Boblion wrote:
The only Russian people allowed in Europe are KGB operatives, mobsters and whores.
I'm sorry for Brat_Ok but he is a starcraft player which is way too suspicious.


Lovely xD... and yet sadly it feels so true.

I'm not surprised at all that Russians have a hard time getting visas for Western Europe. It was just the same 15 years ago in Bulgaria. Waiting for a visa to Western Europe longer than 4-5 months was common; being denied was even more common...
TheToast
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4808 Posts
November 27 2010 18:14 GMT
#35
Likely it has nothing to do with his military service, as service in Russia is mandatory.

On November 28 2010 00:47 razy wrote:

So when it came up to getting German visa again to go to IEM he got denied cause of some problem that popped out inb4 there was 1 day left for the tourney to start: German consul demanded the ESL CEO's inviting letter to be notary insured (or w/e is it called). There were several other strange requirements from him and ESL CEO had to send inviting letter 2 times using express delivery and stuff. Tones of calls to German embassy in Russia from ESL officials and rox's team managers didn't make that big of a difference.


^That's actually really interesting, bureaucracy in action I guess.

Somehow I can't help but think that the recent tensions between the west and Russia isn't making it more difficult for everyone to get visas. But, that's politics for ya...
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