EPTSomebody should do an expose on this and get the down and dirty. Inquiring minds want to know.
Brat_OK's visa troubles?
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AmiPolizeiFunk
Germany804 Posts
Somebody should do an expose on this and get the down and dirty. Inquiring minds want to know. | ||
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frd
France164 Posts
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Phonics
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[SuNdae]
Finland323 Posts
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maybe
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my guess is it has to do something with theire criminal records | ||
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OPSavioR
Sweden1465 Posts
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gm.tOSS
Germany898 Posts
On November 28 2010 00:03 maybe wrote: my guess is it has to do something with theire criminal records Cheap call based on nothing but prejudice. | ||
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Gryffes
United Kingdom763 Posts
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NarutO
Germany18839 Posts
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AmiPolizeiFunk
Germany804 Posts
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Too_MuchZerg
Finland2818 Posts
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AmiPolizeiFunk
Germany804 Posts
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AVV
Russian Federation20 Posts
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
On November 28 2010 00:19 G.s)NarutO wrote: It could be because he was in the Russian Army ;-) I think that is the case ;( | ||
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MiraKul
Malaysia498 Posts
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Asta
Germany3491 Posts
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Nyx
Rwanda460 Posts
On November 28 2010 00:35 MiraKul wrote: for IEM visa troubles : ANSWERS Yup, and his second failed application was because of his first. | ||
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LittLeD
Sweden7973 Posts
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razy
Russian Federation899 Posts
On November 28 2010 00:03 maybe wrote: my guess is it has to do something with theire criminal records xDD srsly guys ^^ he is like one of the most kind ppl in the world how can u claim such things when u even don't know him Back in BW days Bratok was taken to russian army despite having some serious disease (and official documents proving it ofc but it's russia) then his friends\team managed to take him out of it somehow and he went ahead practicing ftw. His first visa deny was to Germany in 2008 and the official reason was "having no occupation after finishing college or university" (2 other finalists were denied btw so instead of having russia WCG08:BW top3 players perform we had top4-6 in the grand finals lol). Some time after he went to Dreamhack winter using Finnish visa (that's how they usually do it in Saints Petersburg ^^). Due to crisis only he and his manager were able to go there out of whole team. So when it came up to getting German visa again to go to IEM he got denied cause of some problem that popped out inb4 there was 1 day left for the tourney to start: German consul demanded the ESL CEO's inviting letter to be notary insured (or w/e is it called). There were several other strange requirements from him and ESL CEO had to send inviting letter 2 times using express delivery and stuff. Tones of calls to German embassy in Russia from ESL officials and rox's team managers didn't make that big of a difference. When it came up to getting visa again for DH recently but he used his passport so guys in Finland saw 2 C1 denials (one of the most strict ones afaik) in German embassy. U can understand why he didn't get to Sweden the 2nd time. Although the official reason was "srs rule violation while using finnish visa before" but his manager traveled the exact same route Bratok did and was able to get his visa successfully. I heard Bruce talking about this on diff streams. So it should be at least 90% true (knowing Bruce xD <3) | ||
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0neder
United States3733 Posts
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AmiPolizeiFunk
Germany804 Posts
On November 28 2010 00:47 razy wrote: xDD srsly guys ^^ he is like one of the most kind ppl in the world how can u claim such things when u even don't know him Back in BW days Bratok was taken to russian army despite having some serious disease (and official documents proving it ofc but it's russia) then his friends\team managed to take him out of it somehow and he went ahead practicing ftw. His first visa deny was to Germany in 2008 and the official reason was "having no occupation after finishing college or university" (2 other finalists were denied btw so instead of having russia WCG08:BW top3 players perform we had top4-6 in the grand finals lol). Some time after he went to Dreamhack winter using Finnish visa (that's how they usually do it in Saints Petersburg ^^). Due to crisis only he and his manager were able to go there out of whole team. So when it came up to getting German visa again to go to IEM he got denied cause of some problem that popped out inb4 there was 1 day left for the tourney to start: German consul demanded the ESL CEO's inviting letter to be notary insured (or w/e is it called). There were several other strange requirements from him and ESL CEO had to send inviting letter 2 times using express delivery and stuff. Tones of calls to German embassy in Russia from ESL officials and rox's team managers didn't make that big of a difference. When it came up to getting visa again for DH recently but he used his passport so guys in Finland saw 2 C1 denials (one of the most strict ones afaik) in German embassy. U can understand why he didn't get to Sweden the 2nd time. Although the official reason was "srs rule violation while using finnish visa before" but his manager traveled the exact same route Bratok did and was able to get his visa successfully. I heard Bruce talking about this on diff streams. So it should be at least 90% true (knowing Bruce xD <3) Thanks for the answers razy! It's fucked that previous denials now red-flag him for current requests. That just messed up. | ||
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out4blood
United States313 Posts
On November 28 2010 00:18 gm.tOSS wrote: Cheap call based on nothing but prejudice. He might be suggesting it is based on the guy's repeated inability to secure a visa. Sure there can be trouble once in a while, but to be unable to travel multiple times? There's some other reason. | ||
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Zandar
Netherlands1541 Posts
They might start to listen when so many people are complaining | ||
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razy
Russian Federation899 Posts
On November 28 2010 01:06 Zandar wrote: Can't we help the guy in some way? Like sending a petition to these embassies or some European union bureaucrat. And have that petition signed by all team liquid visitors, husky viewers etc? They might start to listen when so many people are complaining i think his team manager's had enough of this troubles and they promised to deal w/ the prob so don't worry  | ||
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Piski
Finland3461 Posts
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MasterFischer
Denmark836 Posts
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Pulimuli
Sweden2766 Posts
anyhow i really like his games, sucks that he couldnt participate | ||
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Rannasha
Netherlands2398 Posts
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PhiliBiRD
United States2643 Posts
On November 28 2010 00:06 OPSavioR wrote: I dont think a starcarft nerd can be a terrorist. i think anyone can be anyone they want | ||
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Patriot.dlk
Sweden5462 Posts
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NexUmbra
Scotland3776 Posts
FOR THE MOTHERLAND!!! | ||
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Condor
Netherlands188 Posts
Sucks for Brat_OK (and anyone having the same problem). He's probably going to need some "inside help" (such as ESL CEO intervention) in order to get this mess straightened out. | ||
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Boblion
France8043 Posts
I'm sorry for Brat_Ok but he is a starcraft player, this is way too suspicious. | ||
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ggrrg
Bulgaria2716 Posts
On November 28 2010 03:03 Boblion wrote: The only Russian people allowed in Europe are KGB operatives, mobsters and whores. I'm sorry for Brat_Ok but he is a starcraft player which is way too suspicious. Lovely xD... and yet sadly it feels so true. I'm not surprised at all that Russians have a hard time getting visas for Western Europe. It was just the same 15 years ago in Bulgaria. Waiting for a visa to Western Europe longer than 4-5 months was common; being denied was even more common... | ||
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TheToast
United States4808 Posts
On November 28 2010 00:47 razy wrote: So when it came up to getting German visa again to go to IEM he got denied cause of some problem that popped out inb4 there was 1 day left for the tourney to start: German consul demanded the ESL CEO's inviting letter to be notary insured (or w/e is it called). There were several other strange requirements from him and ESL CEO had to send inviting letter 2 times using express delivery and stuff. Tones of calls to German embassy in Russia from ESL officials and rox's team managers didn't make that big of a difference. ^That's actually really interesting, bureaucracy in action I guess. Somehow I can't help but think that the recent tensions between the west and Russia isn't making it more difficult for everyone to get visas. But, that's politics for ya... | ||
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