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MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
October 30 2010 05:45 GMT
#21
We should really try to find/reupload the vide othat explained that all.
Someone made subtitle to a 15 minutes GOM video they brodcasted before season 1.
Everything was explained, code S, code A, seeds for the first season (now we are in pre season)
For some reason the video was removed from youtube because of copyright violation, but I guess that was a mistake, as this was free content.
Well, if the person who translate it is stil laround here, perhaps he could reup this vid.
Cyanocyst
Profile Joined October 2010
2222 Posts
October 30 2010 05:53 GMT
#22
Um I think we all know that S is Greater than A. However does anyone really know how it will be implemented?

I originally thought that S class players would just get favorable brackets and maybe even have to play preliminary anymore. And match-ups or high level players would happen later on in the tournament. Which is really good, since we wouldn't have any BS happening again like with Tester or Top for instance.

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andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
October 30 2010 05:53 GMT
#23
On October 30 2010 14:35 Ocedic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2010 14:17 andrewlt wrote:
Even in Japanese?


Especially in Japanese. I play SSF4 and S rank is commonly superior to A rank in fighting games. When people talk about character tiers S tier is above A tier as well.



Well, from researching around, it looks like this system of ranking originated in Japan. However, I highly doubt that the origin of the "S" rank is an English word.
Baarn
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2702 Posts
October 30 2010 05:56 GMT
#24
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=103435
There's no S in KT. :P
ey215
Profile Joined June 2010
United States546 Posts
October 30 2010 05:59 GMT
#25
I know of at least 4 threads this is posted in, here's the main news page.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=141496

Enjoy.
koppik
Profile Joined April 2010
United States676 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-30 06:06:12
October 30 2010 06:04 GMT
#26
I thought they were having separate tournaments for Code A and Code S players, or something. So the GSL would be amongst the top 32 players from the 3 "preseason" tournaments, with the Code A tournament is used for choosing candidates to compete for code S with their own "GSL tournament".
udgnim
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8024 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-30 06:17:58
October 30 2010 06:16 GMT
#27
in Brood War (which can eventually apply to SC 2), S class to me means the very top tier players. for example, currently in BW progaming, I only consider Flash and Jaedong to be in the S class category.

in terms of the GSL though, it just relates to their seeding structure for 2011 tournaments
E-Sports is competitive video gaming with a spectator fan base. Do not take the word "Sports" literally.
Cyanocyst
Profile Joined October 2010
2222 Posts
October 30 2010 06:21 GMT
#28
Thanks for the link Ey215. So it says Top 32 will become S-class. However Artosis made it sound like if you get top 8 in any of the 3 GSL's this year your automatically S-class.

Obviously 3*8=24 so theres 8 additional spots. Also double/triple counting for players that make top 8 more than once, will free up more spots. So while its favorable to make a Top 8 spot, its not necessary to get in to S-class.

Though it says that the total tournament will have 96 players, Does anybody know how that works? 96 boils down a 3 person finals. My best guess is all A-class players 33-96 will vs each other so that the Top 32 A-class players move on. Then in the round of 64 every S-Class player will receive an A-class player to face.
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keV.
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3214 Posts
October 30 2010 06:23 GMT
#29
On October 30 2010 13:25 Belligerent wrote:
In monster rancher, it was better than A


Confirmed. I miss that game ...
"brevity is the soul of wit" - William Shakesman
GagnarTheUnruly
Profile Joined July 2010
United States655 Posts
October 30 2010 06:24 GMT
#30
I agree that in BW the number of players considered 'S' class was pretty limited. Jaedong, Flash, Stork, and then maybe some other players if you're feeling generous.

As far as I know S rank comes from video games. Word on the street is that in Japan C is a pretty poor rank (whereas Americans find it acceptable). So programmers of games that provide ranks for things wanted to add another rank that's even awesomer than A, and they made up S-rank. In practically every game with a ranking system made in the past 10 years S rank has been the dop rank. No doubt BW was inspired by that.
keV.
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3214 Posts
October 30 2010 06:25 GMT
#31
On October 30 2010 14:53 andrewlt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2010 14:35 Ocedic wrote:
On October 30 2010 14:17 andrewlt wrote:
Even in Japanese?


Especially in Japanese. I play SSF4 and S rank is commonly superior to A rank in fighting games. When people talk about character tiers S tier is above A tier as well.



Well, from researching around, it looks like this system of ranking originated in Japan. However, I highly doubt that the origin of the "S" rank is an English word.


Actually, I'm pretty sure it's from "Super" or "Special"
"brevity is the soul of wit" - William Shakesman
Fa1nT
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3423 Posts
October 30 2010 06:30 GMT
#32
D -> C -> B -> A -> S

That's how most ranking work in everything that exists.

But America has to be super special awesome and leave out S rank in most things because we are cool like that =/

bjwithbraces
Profile Joined April 2010
United States549 Posts
October 30 2010 06:39 GMT
#33
psssh i was doing s class dark poeta runs like woah
http://steamcommunity.com/id/unipolarity/inventory/
lim1017
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1278 Posts
October 30 2010 06:44 GMT
#34
all S class players would be seeded away from each other in the qualifiers? or are they automatically entered into the next GSL?

if they auto qualify for how long? i think it would be unfair for a player who achieve S class once to get seeded into GSL top 64 for the next year or w/e. (espically if they cant keep up)

ive actully never heard of A class, how would seeding of A class players work?

Niick
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia426 Posts
October 30 2010 06:49 GMT
#35
@ lim, the bottom 8 s class players and the top 8 A class willl play off regularly to swap spots, A class seeding will work like S class, its just the next players below the top 32 from the 3 GSLs
You'll have to speak up, I'm wearing a towel.
Sobba
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden576 Posts
October 30 2010 06:51 GMT
#36
When i read about it, it looked like it would be one tourny for the S-class players and 1 for the A-class. Then the worst in the S-class and best in the A class would change places. And the worst in the A-class would drop out for some top of the ladder thingi.
JoeJin
Profile Joined September 2010
United States77 Posts
October 30 2010 07:01 GMT
#37
S stands for sexy, because you gotta do some sexy shi* to get it.
cablesc
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States1540 Posts
October 30 2010 07:03 GMT
#38
There's a lot of misinformation still over this issue.

There are two separate tournaments. The S-class and the A-class will not play against each other. The S-class tournament is a 32 player tournament that will be the top tournament with the higher profile, prestige, and presumably prize pool.

The A-class tournament is a 64 player tournament that is the lessor tournament in terms of attention and probably prize money. It's similar to what happens in college basketball in the US. There's a top tournament (NCAA's) and a secondary tournament (NIT).

In order to keep things fresh and allow players improve their standings, after every GSL there will be a qualifying round to promote/demote players. The bottom S-class players will play against the top A-class players for a spot in the S-league. The bottom A-class players will play against the top 32 in battlenet for a spot in the A-league.

Hope this clears things up.
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Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
October 30 2010 07:07 GMT
#39
S class in Broodwar was, more or less, the top 3 (or 4) players at the current time. Not much more to it then that - though its very subjective
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Sobba
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden576 Posts
October 30 2010 07:11 GMT
#40
On October 30 2010 16:03 cablesc wrote:
There's a lot of misinformation still over this issue.

There are two separate tournaments. The S-class and the A-class will not play against each other. The S-class tournament is a 32 player tournament that will be the top tournament with the higher profile, prestige, and presumably prize pool.

The A-class tournament is a 64 player tournament that is the lessor tournament in terms of attention and probably prize money. It's similar to what happens in college basketball in the US. There's a top tournament (NCAA's) and a secondary tournament (NIT).

In order to keep things fresh and allow players improve their standings, after every GSL there will be a qualifying round to promote/demote players. The bottom S-class players will play against the top A-class players for a spot in the S-league. The bottom A-class players will play against the top 32 in battlenet for a spot in the A-league.

Hope this clears things up.


Ye thats how i understood it. But i think this sucks.. it will be almost impossible for any foreigners now to make a namn for themselfs unless they go to GSL 3.
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