BroodWar -> StarCraft2 Damage Types and Inflation - Page 6

Archael

United States15 Posts

October 15 2010 08:26 GMT

#101

This just in!

Blizzard now feels like buildings need more HP to resist the ridiculous amount of damage being thrown out by units.

Let's increase building HP but keep insane DPS vs Armored the same.

Oh well, atleast it's cool seeing a Nexus with 1000 / 1000 under it's wire-frame icon.

EDIT: And Spawning Pools with 1000 Health. This just keeps getting more ridiculous. Blizzard will do whatever it takes to try and balance using this system instead of a DPS backpedal.

GagnarTheUnruly

United States655 Posts

October 15 2010 18:30 GMT

#102

On October 15 2010 16:28 nalgene wrote:

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he's talking about marauders though...

Cooldown on sc1 rines after stim = 7.5frames / 24 or 0.3125 = up to 3.2x hits a sec ( slightly less though supposedly due to random delay intervals ) ( almost as high as marauders in sc2 dps when both stimmed ~19.2 vs 1.5 x 20 / 1.5 )

Cooldown on sc2 rines after stim = 0.86 x ( 1/ 1.5 ) = 0.573 = 1.74x hits a sec

I meant that Slago was complaining that marauder drops are too strong, DPS too much against buildings. I was just pointing out that in BW marines kill buildings insanely fast. One dropship of marines is super cheap and can kill bases in seconds.

If you compare DPS charts the big picture isn't really that much different BW vs SC2. It's just that people use units differently.

Grond

599 Posts

October 16 2010 08:01 GMT

#103

Agree somewhat. I see the issue as Blizzard playing Rock, Papaer, Scissors with the bonus damage but not the Armor. If Armor actually meant something it would be different, currently it's just a death sentence. For example imagine if some units got +5 armor per armor upgrade like some of the high DPS units do. I'm not advocating +5, just illustrating the problem. I do think Armor needs to count for more instead of just being a huge liability. To give an example look at Marines vs Ultras. The highest ground armor unit in the game vs one of the lowest ground damage unit in the game (tied with the Zergling), theoretically Ultras should slaughter Marines. However the reality is just the opposite, max upgraded Ultras get slaughtered by max upgraded Marines. The only unit really effected by armor is the BC vs Protoss due to the Phoenix and Carrier having very low damage and very high attack rate and the BC having substantially more base Armor than other units. Now this is becoming an issue as well with Blizzard nerfing the Armor bonus for Void Rays. I have serious doubts that the current system is balancable to any degree without considerably more units added to the game unless they completely redesign many units.

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