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HudsonK
Profile Joined December 2009
China172 Posts
October 13 2010 00:54 GMT
#81
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO . this map was the best thing i've played ffs >(((
Nixda
Profile Joined August 2010
119 Posts
October 13 2010 00:54 GMT
#82
This makes me very sad.
Some areas/sites on the internet seem to have a very pronounced fear of "bad" words.

I never really understood how pixels scrolling by would hurt a person, even a kid.
After all, from what I remember of school and hear kids talking about it, they get to hear things about ten times as bad as dyke there and amazingly enough, it neither stops them from growing up nor does it seem to make them turn into insane mass murderers.

People mean well when they are worried about their kids on the net, and there surely are dangers there for them, like pedophiles lurking there.. But reading a swear word ?
Talk about being overprotective.
And a normal dictionary word ? This is even more ridiculous.

PinkPrincess
Profile Joined July 2010
United States149 Posts
October 13 2010 00:55 GMT
#83
On October 13 2010 09:50 danl9rm wrote:
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On October 13 2010 09:33 Whole wrote:
On October 13 2010 08:57 Astro Boy wrote:
So this person didn't even know what dyke was before they looked it up.
Thats so stupid.


yeah man, team liquid is an only American forum and everyone should be well versed in the English language...o wait



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On October 13 2010 09:00 Dystisis wrote:
On October 13 2010 08:57 Astro Boy wrote:
So this person didn't even know what dyke was before they looked it up.
Thats so stupid.

Clearly. Everyone who does not speak English is a moron!!111!


Guys... um... oh never mind. :/

This is sad news, at first, but according to the blizz post they only chose the word "dyke" to mention in the email because it was the least offensive. And besides, it looks like once he cleans up the game, he'll be able to republish it.

I think blizz did the right thing. It at least says to me they listen to people's objections on battlenet. Don't get so hung up on it getting pulled down for a couple/few days. Once he fixes it, I'm sure they'll let him put it back up. That's what they aluded to anyway.

Edit: And I know they're just words in the dictionary but.. they kind of have to be in the dictionary, it's supposed to be all-inclusive of a language. Just because words are in the dictionary doesn't mean you need to have those words in just any situation.

Maps should be whatever the hell people want. If they want to swear and have the entire game be typing Shit, Piss, Fuck, Cunt, Cocksucker, Motherfucker and Tits, then that should be their choice. It probably wouldn't be a particularly popular game if that were the case.

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Contagious
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
United States1319 Posts
October 13 2010 00:58 GMT
#84
damnit I never got to play this map. Wait.. the people that used to have "Sexy pics ###" that I would look at when I was 13 now started banning maps? How. Dare. They?
SONE
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada839 Posts
October 13 2010 01:02 GMT
#85
Wow, that is beyond retarded. Peace to the only custom map i played -_-
Tomfour
Profile Joined September 2010
United States173 Posts
October 13 2010 01:03 GMT
#86

I wanted to point out though that the reports we received for the words included in the map’s dictionary were fairly vast, and clearly offensive in most cases.


That is from the Blizzard employee's response on the forum.

Apparently dictionaries are offensive in most cases, clearly. Fortunately they do not use urban dictionary, otherwise the word Blizzard may have to be banned as well.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Blizzard&page=2

It really picks up at definition number 9.
RebirthOfLeGenD
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
USA5860 Posts
October 13 2010 01:05 GMT
#87
On October 13 2010 10:02 SONE wrote:
Wow, that is beyond retarded. Peace to the only custom map i played -_-

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Uncultured
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1340 Posts
October 13 2010 01:05 GMT
#88
This is the biggest, most ridiculous over reaction I've ever seen. It's like you all feed of each-others negativity. Blizzard banned a map that had many offensive words in it, the least of which was "dyke" and because of misinformation and basically drama-mongering it's become a huge deal.

All the mapmaker needs to do is dialog with blizzard and make some fixes to get his map back onto the list.

Calm down, grow up, and express your own opinion based on facts, not based on what shit everyone else is smearing around. Part of being a human is being able to formulate your own perspective. Don't just jump on the bandwagon without doing some damn research first.

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bjornkavist
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada1235 Posts
October 13 2010 01:06 GMT
#89
Thats a real dumb move by Blizzard, I mean maybe they take offense to this but this is the internet. Not to mention, Nexus Word Wars is fucking awesome.
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johnnybrav0
Profile Joined March 2010
United States61 Posts
October 13 2010 01:08 GMT
#90
On October 13 2010 09:37 Vei wrote:
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On October 13 2010 09:35 PinkPrincess wrote:
On October 13 2010 09:34 Yaotzin wrote:
On October 13 2010 09:34 PinkPrincess wrote:
Sigh, Blizzard really needs to stop being such a carebear company. If people want to swear, be racist, sexist, etc. fine: let them do so.

You realise how fast they'd get sued if they did that?

Probably about as fast as they did for not caring about it in the first Bnet? (i.e., never?)

To clarify, I mean on Bnet. I have no problem (and in fact think they should) policing their forums.

Yeah I don't know, the one argument he has in his favor is that it's a T-rated service... but I mean XBL I imagine is 10x worse (from what I hear)... but those FPS are also mostly M, so I don't know.

No online games are rated by the ESRB. XBL is terrible, to be honest though. 13 year old kids (clearly that age or younger, you can tell by their voice) shouting racial slurs and obscenities that I've never even heard of.
Excelsior
Profile Joined October 2009
United States46 Posts
October 13 2010 01:08 GMT
#91
Another reason why we need a private cracked b.net server in the future... :X
Impervious
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada4200 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-13 01:13:26
October 13 2010 01:12 GMT
#92
On October 13 2010 10:08 Excelsior wrote:
Another reason why we need a private cracked b.net server in the future... :X

Sadly, I agree..... Blizzard has a monopoly on it, and that'll prevent them from having any motivation to improve it at all.....
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grieve
Profile Joined March 2010
United States64 Posts
October 13 2010 01:14 GMT
#93
A perfect example highlighting the choke-hold blizzard has on Custom games. Why is the simple method of "publishing" custom games appropriate to begin with anyway?
Calidus
Profile Joined April 2010
150 Posts
October 13 2010 01:22 GMT
#94
this makes me sad. I wonder if blizzard will ever sell the code to run a sc2 server? I doubt it, i think we have better luck finding some employee about to retire to leak a copy or a really pissed off intern.
Note:1100 Diamond take everything with a grain of salt.
Motiva
Profile Joined November 2007
United States1774 Posts
October 13 2010 01:24 GMT
#95
wow I'm really dissapointed by this news... I never even got a chance to check the map.... What bullshit arbitrary nonsense.
Krigwin
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
1130 Posts
October 13 2010 01:26 GMT
#96
On October 13 2010 10:05 Uncultured wrote:
This is the biggest, most ridiculous over reaction I've ever seen. It's like you all feed of each-others negativity. Blizzard banned a map that had many offensive words in it, the least of which was "dyke" and because of misinformation and basically drama-mongering it's become a huge deal.

All the mapmaker needs to do is dialog with blizzard and make some fixes to get his map back onto the list.

Calm down, grow up, and express your own opinion based on facts, not based on what shit everyone else is smearing around. Part of being a human is being able to formulate your own perspective. Don't just jump on the bandwagon without doing some damn research first.



It was one of 32000 words from a dictionary that were randomly generated in the course of the game (correct me if I'm wrong). This is like the equivalent of pouring out a thousand cans of alphabet soup and some of the letters just randomly formed a swear word. It's not like when you started up the map, it immediately started finding the most offensive words possible and started throwing them at you nonstop until you died. It's not like the mapmaker deliberately typed in the most offensive words he could think of to be included in the map and then turned up their spawn frequency to share with everyone his scintillating wit.

Also, it was a custom map and part of custom content that was in no way forced upon you. It would be different if when you loaded up the single player campaign and right in mission 1 Raynor just starts dropping N-bombs all over the place, but this was a custom map not created by Blizzard, you were not obliged to play, and indeed many players probably would never play (there's a large population of people who rarely/never play custom maps, myself included). This would be different if it was for instance World of Warcraft where someone had a guild with an offensive name and you'd have a pretty much guaranteed chance of meeting one of the guild members eventually in Dalaran or something, lots of people would have gone their entire Starcraft 2 careers without ever finding these words on this particular map.

Also, it wasn't like Blizzard sent an email to this guy saying "hey, we were playing your map when we noticed once when the cosmos align it comes up with some words that some over-sensitive morons and middle-aged mothers might find a tad offensive, could you edit the map to remove these words please?". No, they straight up banned the map without a warning and he can't ever publish it again.

Also, this is a pretty serious issue in that's probably the first example of Blizzard's new draconian bnet 2.0 measures finally clashing with a custom mapmaker (which many of us predicted). It would be one thing if it was an actual situation where for instance someone was trying to sell maps, or mess with the map distribution system somehow, but this (by this I mean a tiny case of some idiots getting upset over characters on a screen) is pretty small potatoes and it's disheartening to see such a massive overreaction by Blizzard.

on a side note, I'm rather interested in what these other 'offensive' words that were excluded from the explanation for the ban are. Many of the more notorious swear words for instance, are not in the dictionary whether due to archaism or slang origins, so if it's some words that are usually construed as offensive but actually have legitimate definitions like damn, bitch, and bastard, that's even more stupid.
bontez
Profile Joined March 2010
United States165 Posts
October 13 2010 01:29 GMT
#97
i was looking for this map and couldnt find it

hopefully this gets resolved and it is allowed to be up again
TheGiftedApe
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1243 Posts
October 13 2010 01:33 GMT
#98
soemthing needs to be done about the custom map system,

I can seem to remember a few "HAVE SEX WITH BRITNEY SPEARS" maps in sc1 that made it through....

however this guy like crying about is way too over the top, Take the bad words out and blizz will let your map go, especially since it was somewhat popular. It might take them a week to get their shit straight at blizz but they usually do.
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MagnusHyperion
Profile Joined August 2010
United States288 Posts
October 13 2010 01:37 GMT
#99
how bad is our society (US) that something that draws from the DICTIONARY is offensive. I swear this is a mass conspiracy to devalue intellect in the US. What's next? Will Thesauruses be outlawed from all Blizzard events?

here is my impression of Blizzard/Western Society: "Words with multiple meaning and definitions are offensive, we shouldn't use them anymore. On top of that, grammar is getting awfully suspicious. ME NOT LIKE BOOK BRAIN PEOPLE, ME GET ANGRY, NO LIKE INTELLI-(word too hard for them) BRAINS."

gg no re Western Society's obsession with being inoffensive to the point where it offends people who appreciate dictionaries and their usefulness
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tacrats
Profile Joined July 2010
476 Posts
October 13 2010 01:43 GMT
#100
but blizz games say 'bitch' and 'shit' but nexus wars is banned...

sigh....how do i get outta this chicken **** outfit? blizzard lost its balls, a shame. just makes me shudder when i think about what d3 is going to look like.
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