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MavercK
Profile Joined March 2010
Australia2181 Posts
October 06 2010 04:05 GMT
#61
dont know if it's been mentioned already
but the stats on carrier intercepters
they will launch at range 8
they will not return back to their carrier until range 12.
they dont outrange the siege tank but it's close enough.
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Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18918 Posts
October 06 2010 04:53 GMT
#62
Coughcough Day9's fundaymonday replays with Huk beating good players with his carrier rushes coughcough


(i'm not convinced carriers are bad - I think they might still have their place in this game. We'll see in a few years i suppose)
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DarkspearTribe
Profile Joined August 2010
568 Posts
October 06 2010 04:56 GMT
#63
Hopefully after D9D funday monday people will use them more <3
Protoss_Carrier
Profile Joined September 2010
414 Posts
October 14 2010 19:20 GMT
#64
Hmm, now with the void ray nerf in 1.1.2, void ray does 26.67 DPS to armor after charge.

Meanwhile, carrier does 80 DPS within the 1st seconds. We all know how important it is for a unit to front load their DPS instead of after load.

I predict carrier will finally be used.
Carrier has arrived.
zak
Profile Joined April 2010
Korea (South)1009 Posts
October 14 2010 19:23 GMT
#65
On October 06 2010 07:45 DragonDefonce wrote:
It doesn't count when you can't initiate the attack from that distance.


lol u know how vikings are used to get range? toss can use observers or phoenix. think before you speak
You know how to gain a victory, but not use it - maharbal
Protoss_Carrier
Profile Joined September 2010
414 Posts
October 14 2010 19:51 GMT
#66
On October 15 2010 04:23 zak wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2010 07:45 DragonDefonce wrote:
It doesn't count when you can't initiate the attack from that distance.


lol u know how vikings are used to get range? toss can use observers or phoenix. think before you speak


you can't launch interceptor at 14 range.
Carrier has arrived.
lololol
Profile Joined February 2006
5198 Posts
October 14 2010 20:16 GMT
#67
On October 15 2010 04:20 Protoss_Carrier wrote:
Hmm, now with the void ray nerf in 1.1.2, void ray does 26.67 DPS to armor after charge.

Meanwhile, carrier does 80 DPS within the 1st seconds. We all know how important it is for a unit to front load their DPS instead of after load.

I predict carrier will finally be used.


It takes 1.5 seconds to launch all interceptors(with the upgrade).
I'll call Nada.
KentHenry
Profile Joined August 2010
United States260 Posts
October 14 2010 20:19 GMT
#68
Is the Carrier exactly on top of the Tank? Because otherwise your radius is different.
Supamang
Profile Joined June 2010
United States2298 Posts
October 14 2010 20:25 GMT
#69
On October 15 2010 05:19 KentHenry wrote:
Is the Carrier exactly on top of the Tank? Because otherwise your radius is different.

No its not. What matters is if the line from the Carrier to the BC is parallel to the line from the tank to the zealot. Since the Carrier is targeting the BC and the Tank can only target the Zealot, the distance is probably the same
Protoss_Carrier
Profile Joined September 2010
414 Posts
October 14 2010 20:32 GMT
#70
On October 15 2010 05:16 lololol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2010 04:20 Protoss_Carrier wrote:
Hmm, now with the void ray nerf in 1.1.2, void ray does 26.67 DPS to armor after charge.

Meanwhile, carrier does 80 DPS within the 1st seconds. We all know how important it is for a unit to front load their DPS instead of after load.

I predict carrier will finally be used.


It takes 1.5 seconds to launch all interceptors(with the upgrade).


oops, burst DPS at first second is actually 60.
Carrier has arrived.
MusiK
Profile Joined August 2010
United States302 Posts
October 14 2010 20:37 GMT
#71
You could say the same about broodlords... drop the broodlings and run half way across the map and they could still be alive. xP
BOOM!!! ~ Tasteless
QueueQueue
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada1000 Posts
October 14 2010 20:45 GMT
#72
On October 06 2010 07:47 mnofstl007 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2010 07:45 bjornkavist wrote:
On October 06 2010 07:43 Lucius2 wrote:
so ehm ye, carriers still suck


woah man, dont be so close minded and atleast acknowledge the effort of the post before posting saying stuff like that.

I agree OP, I would love to see some cliff carrier micro like you'd see in BW and the Range of the Carrier in SC2 has not quite been exploited as much as it was in BW, not yet anyway


you would love to see some carriers get roflstomped by vikings/corrupters?

remember in SC:BW where the air vs air units sucked- this isn't like that.
you will never see carrier prevelant games because AA from Air is too good in this game.



Have you ever even watched/played BW?
bad.robot
Profile Joined July 2010
United States23 Posts
October 14 2010 21:03 GMT
#73
Perhaps we'll see Huk use carriers this weekend
D-Lite
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United Kingdom223 Posts
October 14 2010 21:51 GMT
#74
fantastic find man, i thought the carrier had a longer range than 8, not 100% sure how it works, from using them in game (no rigorous testing) but it looks like the 4 trainable interceptors stick around to battle when the 4 it comes pre-built with leave as soon as it leaves range 8
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Xapti
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2473 Posts
October 14 2010 21:52 GMT
#75
On October 06 2010 13:05 MavercK wrote:
dont know if it's been mentioned already
but the stats on carrier intercepters
they will launch at range 8
they will not return back to their carrier until range 12.
they dont outrange the siege tank but it's close enough.
interceptors have 3 range though, which makes the total 15.

Overall though, I'd say it's not really practical to be doing any attacks over 11 range, in fact I think it might be a possibility that targets can't be initiated past range 8 even if a dummy target less than or equal to range 8 is initiated before hand.
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influence1123
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2 Posts
October 15 2010 02:29 GMT
#76
Did you say that at a certain range the interceptors stop spawning full force but some still move out to attack? This is interesting from a design perspective. I wonder what Blizzard thought when they made the Carriers attack behave like that. I don't know if its just me but it seems like much of the design of Starcraft 2 (the online portion anyway) is aimed at making the game as balanced as possible instead of trying to make it realistic or something else. So I wonder what purpose this semi attack serves? Keep in mind I was not a big Starcraft 1 player and don't have a lot Starcraft experience under my belt so if this idea seems stupid or the answer obvious that is why. But I would like to know what people think about it.
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Arco
Profile Joined September 2009
United States2090 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-15 02:38:30
October 15 2010 02:37 GMT
#77
I'm hearing hard counter this soft counter that. So?

Carriers are an awesome unit. They do insane damage, and scale the best with upgrades.

By the time you're building carriers you'll have enough resources to followup with High Templars with Storm...which destroys any unit that can possibly contest Carriers.
GreyFoxMe
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden36 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-15 06:51:50
October 15 2010 06:50 GMT
#78
They can only engage at max 8 range (launch from the carrier), but interceptors can keep attacking up to 14. It's even in the Liquipedia. :p
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