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Buhlbaid
Profile Joined September 2010
Spain32 Posts
September 28 2010 23:59 GMT
#181

im not playing zerg to back up my words, im playing zerg to find out if its any more fun than terran is, or any harder whatever. its starting to get boring in the long run to play sc2 terarn because its 10 times easier than sc1. i want challange and esport but sc2 is not hard at all. i play toss some games and won vs top level terrans and not even knowing hotkeys ...
i just wish they made terran and protoss harder to play


100% Agree. In my opinion one of the beauties of an e-sport resides in its complexity, wich consists in a mix of technique (mechanics) and knowledge (strategies). The thing that made BW so kick ass was his game depth (in every sense). I mean, i almost know every single strategy in BW and its counter, due to the hundreds of proleague, osl, msl matches i have seen. But... I couldnt manage to do anyone of them because they are really really hard to pull off.

For example, when i saw Nal_rA shuttle+reaver control in his prime i ocasionally got really emotional because i knew it was super hard to execute, and i really enjoyed it (same happens in a normal sport when u see Federer or Kobe Bryant do amazing stuff) .This doesent happen in SC2 since I realize I can do almost every micro trick without almost practice. So i dont get suprised. I hardly consider the actual pro's "real pro's".

Once youre above the technique you can create; you can be creative and people will really enjoy it, and they'll pay to see your magic. So you need a really deep technique; you need hundreds of intensive hours to be "ok" in BW. The level in SC2 is a joke, even in pro scene. Maybe 2 or 3 are "good" but the others just suck compared to BW progammers in terms of technique, knowledge of the game, RTS sense and much more... (not only the Korean).



"There is no subjetct so old that something new cannot be said about it." -Dostoievski
ccdnl
Profile Joined April 2010
United States611 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-29 00:01:11
September 29 2010 00:00 GMT
#182
LOL IDRA GOT HIS WISH!! IDRA GOT HIS WISH!! LOL

edit: some1 who can be in contact with idra, PLEASE direct idra to this thread.
civil cervixes || Kang Min Fan || I like TLO, TLO= German, I like Germans..?
rathe
Profile Joined August 2010
United States109 Posts
September 29 2010 00:00 GMT
#183
Morrow is a boss. Not many people have the balls to try new things with their rep and points on the line. I used to not like him, but I have now changed my mind. WP.
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dubRa
Profile Joined December 2008
2165 Posts
September 29 2010 00:01 GMT
#184
On September 29 2010 08:49 john0507 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2010 08:03 Senorcuidado wrote:
I really don't understand the hate against Morrow. He's trying out Zerg, sacrificing his incredibly high ladder ranking, against top tier players and TL makes fun of him for it? That's the kind of thing that makes pros not want to deal with us.

If I go out and offrace on ladder for a week you'd better believe I'll lose all my games. Morrow cares so little about his rating that he leaves within ten minutes a lot of those games. So why don't we let him do whatever he wants and stop stalking him? He's only about a million times better than any of us so why would he care what scrubs like us think.

If Morrow does read this, props for trying something new. It would be crazy to see you winning tournaments as Zerg :D


No one actually hates him for trying zerg , just the arrogance of the person and the trash talking , which is even worse than Idra lol.

Anyways , props for trying Zerg out too , but well tbh, he's definately no fruit dealer , and doubt he'd even come close to that caliber as zerg.


Hmm... I defi don't agree that Morrow is a bigger trash talker than idrA.
Were you here in bw times?

I applaud MorroW for trying zerg. How about we give him a few months, then we will see what he can do.
Antares777
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1971 Posts
September 29 2010 00:02 GMT
#185
On September 29 2010 06:18 mierin wrote:
I'll seriously eat my shoes if MorroW becomes a good Zerg.


Yummy!

I'm surprised MorroW is switching, this is unexpected to me.
GreyTemplar
Profile Joined September 2010
22 Posts
September 29 2010 00:03 GMT
#186
On September 29 2010 08:37 MorroW wrote:
fuck yea just won my first game as zerg

Flayer
1812 diamond protoss (539 - 344)

:D so happy


Grats man!! Keep it up! You'll be up there in no time with the other Zerg Greats
sluggaslamoo
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Australia4494 Posts
September 29 2010 00:06 GMT
#187
On September 29 2010 06:35 motbob wrote:
[image loading]


LMAO

User was warned for this post
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Piski
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Finland3461 Posts
September 29 2010 00:06 GMT
#188
I'm not your biggest fan but you get some serious points if you would really switch to zerg ^^
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
September 29 2010 00:08 GMT
#189
Once you are infested, there is no going back.
Whole
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States6046 Posts
September 29 2010 00:08 GMT
#190
IdrA's challenge is accepted!

On September 16 2010 22:05 IdrA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2010 21:55 sadyque wrote:
On September 16 2010 21:41 DTown wrote:
On September 16 2010 20:56 a176 wrote:
Morrow,

please switch. zerg has such a lack of players, "high skill level" or not. but also, prove everyone wrong. show us that zerg can win tournaments.

lol, a notable terran player switching to zerg. That'll be the day.

And if he did and he would win the same amount of tournaments what would that prove?
Im betting the zerg whiners will still go "ooooooh but he is just one player with imbawtfpwnage 300000000 apm and skillz like god thats why he can win with Zerg...."

lol
morrow wins a single prized tournament with zerg and ill never say the word balance again
maliceee
Profile Joined August 2010
United States634 Posts
September 29 2010 00:10 GMT
#191
On September 29 2010 08:59 Buhlbaid wrote:
Show nested quote +

im not playing zerg to back up my words, im playing zerg to find out if its any more fun than terran is, or any harder whatever. its starting to get boring in the long run to play sc2 terarn because its 10 times easier than sc1. i want challange and esport but sc2 is not hard at all. i play toss some games and won vs top level terrans and not even knowing hotkeys ...
i just wish they made terran and protoss harder to play


100% Agree. In my opinion one of the beauties of an e-sport resides in its complexity, wich consists in a mix of technique (mechanics) and knowledge (strategies). The thing that made BW so kick ass was his game depth (in every sense). I mean, i almost know every single strategy in BW and its counter, due to the hundreds of proleague, osl, msl matches i have seen. But... I couldnt manage to do anyone of them because they are really really hard to pull off.

For example, when i saw Nal_rA shuttle+reaver control in his prime i ocasionally got really emotional because i knew it was super hard to execute, and i really enjoyed it (same happens in a normal sport when u see Federer or Kobe Bryant do amazing stuff) .This doesent happen in SC2 since I realize I can do almost every micro trick without almost practice. So i dont get suprised. I hardly consider the actual pro's "real pro's".

Once youre above the technique you can create; you can be creative and people will really enjoy it, and they'll pay to see your magic. So you need a really deep technique; you need hundreds of intensive hours to be "ok" in BW. The level in SC2 is a joke, even in pro scene. Maybe 2 or 3 are "good" but the others just suck compared to BW progammers in terms of technique, knowledge of the game, RTS sense and much more... (not only the Korean).






lol. like you would be able to lick any of the top 100 player's boots. :/
nemahsys
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada457 Posts
September 29 2010 00:13 GMT
#192
On September 29 2010 08:37 MorroW wrote:
fuck yea just won my first game as zerg

Flayer
1812 diamond protoss (539 - 344)

:D so happy


grats dude. best of luck with the new race. Hope to see you at the next GSL!
DJ Wheat, if you read this, plz get Lo3 back on itunes stat!
Pulimuli
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Sweden2766 Posts
September 29 2010 00:15 GMT
#193
He should get pretty good in a matter of days imo, he was a good terran in bw which was the most mechanicly demanding race.
OPSavioR
Profile Joined March 2010
Sweden1465 Posts
September 29 2010 00:16 GMT
#194
omg ... a new swedish zerg... how lovely...
i dunno lol
Buhlbaid
Profile Joined September 2010
Spain32 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-29 00:23:43
September 29 2010 00:16 GMT
#195
lol. like you would be able to lick any of the top 100 player's boots. :/


That was not the point;). Feel free to express ur opinion though. Anyway, only top 100? You give me a lot of credit, thats nice. I bet you wouldnt with the top 1500:D.
"There is no subjetct so old that something new cannot be said about it." -Dostoievski
ohno.
Profile Joined September 2010
1 Post
September 29 2010 00:17 GMT
#196
food for thought:

morrow's zerg against idra's terran

lol.
"wow look how many sentries he has... it must be the army of the SENTRY.. BOOOM". - Husky
nam nam
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden4672 Posts
September 29 2010 00:18 GMT
#197
On September 29 2010 09:17 ohno. wrote:
food for thought:

morrow's zerg against idra's terran

lol.


Are you... Idra?
ilbh
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil1606 Posts
September 29 2010 00:20 GMT
#198
he got the balls to go and try zerg, not smurfing, losing so many ladder points.

Part of the inhumanity of the computer is that, once it is competently programmed and working smoothly, it is completely honest.
febreze
Profile Joined April 2010
167 Posts
September 29 2010 00:23 GMT
#199
On September 29 2010 08:37 MorroW wrote:
fuck yea just won my first game as zerg

Flayer
1812 diamond protoss (539 - 344)

:D so happy


Congratz! I hope you'll release "a learning zerg" replay pack.
Beauty in truth, deception with dogma, meaning through life.
maliceee
Profile Joined August 2010
United States634 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-29 00:26:38
September 29 2010 00:25 GMT
#200
On September 29 2010 09:16 Buhlbaid wrote:
[quote=maliceee]lol. like you would be able to lick any of the top 100 player's boots. :/


That was not the point;). Feel free to express ur opinion though. Anyway, only top 100? You give me a lot of credit, thats nice. I bet you couldnt with the top 500:D.[/QUOTE]

Im not going to argue the point that bw required a ton more game sense in every manner possible. Where your point fails is that bw developed over the years, and was an expansion. Do you remember playing SC before the expansion? This game will develop to a point where it will hit a ceiling (imo its nowhere near that yet) and then the expansion will come. With that, on top of all of the strategies that will be perfected in this game, new units will be added which will create a complexity that is exponentially greater. Your point that there are only a "2-3" "good" players is what is stupid man. There is definitely a huge skill gap between the best players and the rest.
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