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On September 29 2010 10:10 Buhlbaid wrote:
I hope your right. But it is hard to believe since BW mechanichs are fundamentally harder than SC2 due to the times and commercial issues. I think BW is clearly harder just looking at thim with so many evidences. Maybe in a year SC2 will have more depth, but never as much as BW. BW is technichally harder. That's my oppinion.
I must say SC2 is an excellent game and makes me feel cool because i can win and in BW i couldnt. ^^
I don't know about depth or fun or balance, but it's definitely not easy; we're seeing all the same faces at the top, and which of them never played an RTS competitively before? I can't think of one (I think someone said that someone in the GSL semis was a newbie, LiveForever I guess?).
Just because certain mechanics are easier doesn't mean that the game is easier overall. It may not be of as much competitive worth, but that's for we as a community to decide.
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lol you guys can say what you want about why he lost games but i can just reference Dimaga winning 60 percent of his games so far on ladder as Terran...
nuff said.
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It kind of baffles me how little the higher skilled players actually know about playing other races. Not knowing hotkeys is pretty bad, everyone should mess around with their offraces enough to at least know those.
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On September 29 2010 10:42 mierin wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2010 10:36 Spyridon wrote:On September 29 2010 10:27 Eschaton wrote:
What's with the cold bloodedness in this thread? Here you have a great player who is playing for the fun of it rather than being #1 on ladder, and all that most can say is that they hope he will get crushed. Of course it will take some time to get a feel for Zerg, it takes ANYONE some time. Soon enough MorroW will be doing fine on ladder as Zerg if he sticks with it. Maybe not #1, but that's probably not a realistic goal for a Z anyway.
For the sake of meaningful balance discussions, everyone on TL should just switch to Random. I agree. He should be getting props for playing Zerg - especially for the reasons he mentioned. Dont know why people are deciding to talk shit about him.... He even admitted they are harder than the other races, so what else do people want? I wish him luck... and I see many people are upset about his past comments about Zerg players... well maybe once he has some more experience playing them for 6+ hours a day as well, he may think about things differently. Give the guy a chance, everyone out there has probably said something BM on a forum because they were misinformed and/or that they regret. The thing you might have missed was that he claimed he could win any tournament as Zerg, implying that the imba cries were unfounded.
Still haven't seen this, link please?
On September 29 2010 10:52 Kantutan wrote:
It kind of baffles me how little the higher skilled players actually know about playing other races. Not knowing hotkeys is pretty bad, everyone should mess around with their offraces enough to at least know those.
Think Morrow's only played T for like 3 years ;/
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On September 29 2010 06:21 UisTehSux wrote:
Cool. I'm interested to see if, and hope that Morrow will turn out to be a sweet zerg player.
He won't. Once Terran gets nerfed he'll fall off the radar.
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Lol well that certainly worked out well ...
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OMG Zergs switching to Terran cause T OP and T switching to Zerg cause Z OP! WHERE DOES IT ALL END!
Anyways can't wait till morrow starts kicking ass and winning tournies.
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On September 29 2010 10:55 pieisamazing wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2010 06:21 UisTehSux wrote:
Cool. I'm interested to see if, and hope that Morrow will turn out to be a sweet zerg player. He won't. Once Terran gets nerfed he'll fall off the radar.
Yeah.. not like he was a great foreigner in brood war or anything....
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On September 29 2010 10:55 pieisamazing wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2010 06:21 UisTehSux wrote:
Cool. I'm interested to see if, and hope that Morrow will turn out to be a sweet zerg player. He won't. Once Terran gets nerfed he'll fall off the radar.
You're joking, Morrow's a great player who has good gamesense and can play almost any playstyle(opposite of Idra)
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On September 29 2010 10:59 Shikyo wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2010 10:55 pieisamazing wrote:On September 29 2010 06:21 UisTehSux wrote:
Cool. I'm interested to see if, and hope that Morrow will turn out to be a sweet zerg player. He won't. Once Terran gets nerfed he'll fall off the radar. You're joking, Morrow's a great player who has good gamesense and can play almost any playstyle(opposite of Idra)
Don't bother, these people will never lose this stupid bias they have.
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On September 29 2010 11:00 acceLL wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2010 10:59 Shikyo wrote:On September 29 2010 10:55 pieisamazing wrote:On September 29 2010 06:21 UisTehSux wrote:
Cool. I'm interested to see if, and hope that Morrow will turn out to be a sweet zerg player. He won't. Once Terran gets nerfed he'll fall off the radar. You're joking, Morrow's a great player who has good gamesense and can play almost any playstyle(opposite of Idra) Don't bother, these people will never lose this stupid bias they have.
It's ironic that you hold this view yourself.
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Using other races is just a way to learn how to beat them. You can't be great if you don't know what you're up against.
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On September 29 2010 11:00 acceLL wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2010 10:59 Shikyo wrote:On September 29 2010 10:55 pieisamazing wrote:On September 29 2010 06:21 UisTehSux wrote:
Cool. I'm interested to see if, and hope that Morrow will turn out to be a sweet zerg player. He won't. Once Terran gets nerfed he'll fall off the radar. You're joking, Morrow's a great player who has good gamesense and can play almost any playstyle(opposite of Idra) Don't bother, these people will never lose this stupid bias they have.
o.O If this were Civ 5, you'd have all the iron you'd ever need.
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lmao serious loss of ladder pts
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On September 29 2010 06:30 crms wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2010 06:28 Alexstrasas wrote:
I am pretty sure if he starts playing Zerg is just to make the QQers stfu, there was some whine thread some time ago were he posted something of that nature, then IdrA posted something there too, so it might be because of this.
Also i am waiting for the imba zerg players to switch terran and faceroll all tournaments to show us how its OP while my post will be viewed as anecdotal and irrelevant (for the most part it is) I have done this on a smaller scale. With my P practice partner (1400+) I lose most series as Z. One day for fun I went T, I have no experience playing T outside of a few random games in beta, and won a series 2-1 going pretty much pure mmm.
Had a pretty similar experience. I only dabbled in Terran during the beta in April-ish, much before the blossoming of strats. I recently played a few practice partners as T (they're around 1200-1300 diamond right now) and they were pretty easy wins, even when I didn't really have a game plan. My brother did the same, except that that was his very first game playing as Terran. It was a pretty close match, but he ended up winning.
Terran ratings are so inflated its not even funny.
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On September 29 2010 11:01 pieisamazing wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2010 11:00 acceLL wrote:On September 29 2010 10:59 Shikyo wrote:On September 29 2010 10:55 pieisamazing wrote:On September 29 2010 06:21 UisTehSux wrote:
Cool. I'm interested to see if, and hope that Morrow will turn out to be a sweet zerg player. He won't. Once Terran gets nerfed he'll fall off the radar. You're joking, Morrow's a great player who has good gamesense and can play almost any playstyle(opposite of Idra) Don't bother, these people will never lose this stupid bias they have. It's ironic that you hold this view yourself.
How so? I play protoss in SC2.
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I think Morrow is how much underrated as Idra is over.
Man I never saw someone as courageous as to go with a top account to dont mind incredibly bad losing streak (and thousands of ppl seeing/commenting) just to learn
when he could just smurf or ask someone´s else acc ....
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On September 29 2010 06:35 motbob wrote:![[image loading]](http://imgur.com/JpsK9.png)
By contrast, here's what happened when ZeeRaX switched to Terran (from Protoss):
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On September 29 2010 11:10 acceLL wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2010 11:01 pieisamazing wrote:On September 29 2010 11:00 acceLL wrote:On September 29 2010 10:59 Shikyo wrote:On September 29 2010 10:55 pieisamazing wrote:On September 29 2010 06:21 UisTehSux wrote:
Cool. I'm interested to see if, and hope that Morrow will turn out to be a sweet zerg player. He won't. Once Terran gets nerfed he'll fall off the radar. You're joking, Morrow's a great player who has good gamesense and can play almost any playstyle(opposite of Idra) Don't bother, these people will never lose this stupid bias they have. It's ironic that you hold this view yourself. How so? I play protoss in SC2.
I play random, so I don't see the bias I supposedly have that you clearly judged because of my icon. morrow wasn't some super great foreigner in brood war. He was above-average, sure, but wasn't in the league of any of the actual big name players.
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