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SC2Phoenix
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada2814 Posts
September 22 2010 07:01 GMT
#561
Wow stop crying about how ultras are unfair with this. The fact you click auto repair on your scvs and the PF is unkillable thats stupid.
Who the fuck has a family of fucking trees? This song is so god damn stupid. Fuck you song, fuck you and your stupid trees. -itmeJP
PeT[uK]
Profile Joined November 2009
United States412 Posts
September 22 2010 07:01 GMT
#562
suddenly my zerg tears... have dried
How Happy Are the Blameless Vestals Lot.
XXXSmOke
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States1333 Posts
September 22 2010 07:01 GMT
#563
On September 22 2010 15:59 Trampsi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2010 15:55 XXXSmOke wrote:
You guys are forgetting that this splash bug is working vs armored units as well. Me and my friend were testing it out. When you have a thor being hit the ultras get close to the same radius of splash damage which turns your army into papaer mache in a few seconds.


How is this suddenly a bug now and not before?

The only change was ram being removed and damage reduced... Ram was never used against thors..?


Because of the formula Blizz added whatever the radius of the unit is +2. Me and my friend tested this w a thor and 3 rauders. I took each of the rauders and spread them out about 3 tiles from the thor. The Ultra comes in and is able to splash out a perfectly spread group of units...
Emperor? Boxer disapproves. He's building bunkers at your mom's house even as you're reading this.
Cranberries
Profile Joined July 2010
Wales567 Posts
September 22 2010 07:02 GMT
#564
On September 22 2010 16:01 XXXSmOke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2010 15:59 Trampsi wrote:
On September 22 2010 15:55 XXXSmOke wrote:
You guys are forgetting that this splash bug is working vs armored units as well. Me and my friend were testing it out. When you have a thor being hit the ultras get close to the same radius of splash damage which turns your army into papaer mache in a few seconds.


How is this suddenly a bug now and not before?

The only change was ram being removed and damage reduced... Ram was never used against thors..?


Because of the formula Blizz added whatever the radius of the unit is +2. Me and my friend tested this w a thor and 3 rauders. I took each of the rauders and spread them out about 3 tiles from the thor. The Ultra comes in and is able to splash out a perfectly spread group of units...

.. Nothing about the Ultralisk changed apart from the damage...

The Ultralisk has always had it's unique splash cleave...
kudlaty_true
Profile Joined November 2009
Poland158 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-22 07:06:17
September 22 2010 07:03 GMT
#565
Oh come on, people. Forget about planetary fortress. It works on every single large building being repaired by scvs. Or every unit that stands beside it for that matter. If one ultralisk can attack from one side and on the other units are dying just because they are standing there, it's clearly a bug so I don't see this discussion going anywhere.
Realise.
Better yet - look at this vid and tell yourself it's wrong. No, wait. It's god damn stupid.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZwEnz_QijQ&feature=sub
Grond
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
599 Posts
September 22 2010 07:04 GMT
#566
The Blue didn't actually call it a bug, he called it an issue. I expect the formula will be completely redone in the future and they will remove unit radius from the equation. It may not be the nerf Terrans are hoping for, Ultras will probably be much better in situations not involving buildings after they change it.
Irrational_Animal
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany1059 Posts
September 22 2010 07:08 GMT
#567
Btw does this new feature also work vs a Thor with autorepair-SCVs?
nameless8989
Profile Joined September 2010
1 Post
September 22 2010 07:10 GMT
#568
For those Terran players always whine whenever other 2 races get buffed and got imba. How about hatchery now can be upgraded with spines that deal the same damage as PF and drones can now heal the hatch...would you like that? That's how the zerg players feels when zerg army annihilated by a single PF with scvs repairing it.
ALPINA
Profile Joined May 2010
3791 Posts
September 22 2010 07:12 GMT
#569
I just hope that blizzard won't overreact and don't nerf Ultras AOE to all units =/
You should never underestimate the predictability of stupidity
PeT[uK]
Profile Joined November 2009
United States412 Posts
September 22 2010 07:13 GMT
#570
On September 22 2010 16:08 Irrational_Animal wrote:
Btw does this new feature also work vs a Thor with autorepair-SCVs?


the Thor was never a building... so to answer you're question, yes
How Happy Are the Blameless Vestals Lot.
Sensator
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia377 Posts
September 22 2010 07:17 GMT
#571
Clearly a bug, this is gonna be too OP and ultras will be nerfed into the ground lulz.
Trampsi
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway39 Posts
September 22 2010 07:17 GMT
#572
On September 22 2010 16:01 XXXSmOke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2010 15:59 Trampsi wrote:
On September 22 2010 15:55 XXXSmOke wrote:
You guys are forgetting that this splash bug is working vs armored units as well. Me and my friend were testing it out. When you have a thor being hit the ultras get close to the same radius of splash damage which turns your army into papaer mache in a few seconds.


How is this suddenly a bug now and not before?

The only change was ram being removed and damage reduced... Ram was never used against thors..?


Because of the formula Blizz added whatever the radius of the unit is +2. Me and my friend tested this w a thor and 3 rauders. I took each of the rauders and spread them out about 3 tiles from the thor. The Ultra comes in and is able to splash out a perfectly spread group of units...


Did you test this before the patch? Cuz this wasn't changed according to notes... I believe that what you say is true, but this was in b4 the patch..?
papaz
Profile Joined December 2009
Sweden4149 Posts
September 22 2010 07:22 GMT
#573
I don't see this lasting too long. It looked ridiculous that the scv's hardly could get near the PF before dying.

Not saying there isn't a need for terran PF nerf but this was just wrong.
WarChimp
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Australia943 Posts
September 22 2010 07:26 GMT
#574
On September 22 2010 07:47 ramen247 wrote:
wtf??? howd the scvs so far away get spashed


This is exactly what I am wondering
threehundred
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada911 Posts
September 22 2010 07:27 GMT
#575
i guess i have no chance defending my PF'ed 3rd/4th base with just scvs rofl.
KimTaeyeon MEDIC MU fighting! ^^;;
ETBPaul
Profile Joined August 2010
15 Posts
September 22 2010 07:34 GMT
#576
On September 22 2010 08:53 Fa1nT wrote:
So a giant ultralisk is attacking your house

should you be able to repair it, while a giant monster is noming it?



Wow, that made me laugh for 2 minutes. Just picturing an ultra running into my house, while I run to get my hammer to try and repair the walls. Thank you for that.
okrane
Profile Joined April 2010
France265 Posts
September 22 2010 07:35 GMT
#577
On September 22 2010 16:27 threehundred wrote:
i guess i have no chance defending my PF'ed 3rd/4th base with just scvs rofl.


fine irony right here, ladies and gents
Really disappointed with Starcraft II Zerg! :(
Lann555
Profile Joined February 2010
Netherlands5173 Posts
September 22 2010 07:38 GMT
#578
So what if I have bio units standing just behind the PF (or just an orbital) to defend against the ultras? They will take splash damage too, which is kinda silly. I can live with the SCV repairing taking damage, but with this mechanic you can basically turn a CC into a big AoE effect
Fantasy Fan! Gogogo vultures
BCH
Profile Joined September 2010
Philippines88 Posts
September 22 2010 07:44 GMT
#579
maybe its just me but i thought a terran expansion with a PF cc was an untouchable expansion.
giggity...
okrane
Profile Joined April 2010
France265 Posts
September 22 2010 07:47 GMT
#580
On September 22 2010 16:44 BCH wrote:
maybe its just me but i thought a terran expansion with a PF cc was an untouchable expansion.


if you actually do a little investigation about the timings needed for zerg to get out a decent number of ultralisks in a serious game you might realize that your affirmation still stands true even with this ridiculous change.

Really disappointed with Starcraft II Zerg! :(
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