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fantomex
United States313 Posts
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f0rk
England172 Posts
A hltv equivalent would be amazing, but it's probably not going to happen with all the other missing features. | ||
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Rokk
United States425 Posts
That said, allowing 14 casters into every game is beyond stupid. The ESL needs to work with its players to give the best viewing experience possible with minimal intrusion on the competitor's playing the game. But this needs to be addressed through the proper channels, not in a fit of rage mid-tournament. | ||
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Yaotzin
South Africa4280 Posts
On September 06 2010 03:49 Cajun2k1 wrote: I hope this 'incident' will lead to a better gaming environment, tournament organizers have to seriously think about the triangle of progamers - casters - organization, all three have stakes in a lagfree game. And all 3 should be moaning at Blizzard as much as possible. No reason they can't allow infinite obs who are ignored by the server if they lag. Seeing "waiting for player x" when they're an OBSERVER is really ridiculous. | ||
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PanN
United States2828 Posts
On September 06 2010 03:57 Yaotzin wrote: And all 3 should be moaning at Blizzard as much as possible. No reason they can't allow infinite obs who are ignored by the server if they lag. Seeing "waiting for player x" when they're an OBSERVER is really ridiculous. No kidding, blizzard needs to fix this bigtime. | ||
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qoiN
Sweden576 Posts
On September 06 2010 03:56 Rokk wrote: Morrow broke the rules and should be punished for it. A player disregarding the official caster of the tournament and rushing to start the game with a caster of his choice shows a huge lack of respect to the organization running the tournament. Since he broke the rules, he should be punished for it. That said, allowing 14 casters into every game is beyond stupid. The ESL needs to work with its players to give the best viewing experience possible with minimal intrusion on the competitor's playing the game. But this needs to be addressed through the proper channels, not in a fit of rage mid-tournament. Blabla "broke the rules and should be punished for it". So if someone had to exceed the speed limit due to an ambulance being behind it and there were no other lanes, the driver should be punished with a fine because he might have saved someones life. Yeah, right. | ||
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TotalBiscuit
United Kingdom5437 Posts
On September 06 2010 03:59 qoiN wrote: Blabla "broke the rules and should be punished for it". So if someone had to exceed the speed limit due to an ambulance being behind it and there were no other lanes, the driver should be punished with a fine because he might have saved someones life. Yeah, right. This is a fairly poor analogy overall. | ||
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Usul
Germany150 Posts
On September 06 2010 03:59 qoiN wrote: Blabla "broke the rules and should be punished for it". So if someone had to exceed the speed limit due to an ambulance being behind it and there were no other lanes, the driver should be punished with a fine because he might have saved someones life. Yeah, right. Yes, you totally can compare that to a starcraft game... Edit: Just think about all the lives Morrow saved! | ||
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Cranberries
Wales567 Posts
On September 06 2010 03:59 qoiN wrote: Blabla "broke the rules and should be punished for it". So if someone had to exceed the speed limit due to an ambulance being behind it and there were no other lanes, the driver should be punished with a fine because he might have saved someones life. Yeah, right. Ambulances can only ever use their sirens on roads with multiple lanes, and can only ever use their sirens incase of emergency. At least this is the law in England, on a single lane road an ambulance isn't allowed to use their siren. | ||
Kennigit
Canada19447 Posts
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meffo
Sweden109 Posts
if a tournament is sponsored it stands to reason they'd want an official stream where they can do their promotion and what-not. having more than three or four obs in a tournament game indicates the tournament is not serious and that who ever is hosting it has no respect for the players or the game. even if your tournament it being casted in several different languages you'd still want to do everything you can to keep the number of observers to a minimum. the least you can do before letting a streamer into a tournament game is make sure his or her stream meets some sort of quality standard. sure, anyone can do a commentary, but that doesn't mean the commentary is any better than just listening to the in-game music. having an account on livestream/ustream does not by any means make you tasteless, day9, artosis or diggity. finally, i'd like to congratulate morrow for being banned. obviously, this tournament is not good enough for him (and it's not likely to be in the very near future either). if i were him i'd stick to serious tournaments. that would at least allow him to be on time for his games. participating in several tournaments at once is bad for your reputation. | ||
Plexa
Aotearoa39261 Posts
On September 06 2010 04:02 Kennigit wrote: Eventually people will realize that live streams of games is so open to abuse and is a bad idea. At least for events with prizepools bigger than 200 euro  | ||
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I_Love_Bacon
United States5765 Posts
On September 06 2010 04:04 Plexa wrote: At least for events with prizepools bigger than 200 euro IEM qualifiers are going on live right now which leads to a very, very large prize pool. | ||
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Telcontar
United Kingdom16710 Posts
still, i cannot help think that maybe banning him from the next 3 events is a tad too severe since this will cripple his chances of making the next month's finals. | ||
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TotalBiscuit
United Kingdom5437 Posts
On September 06 2010 04:02 Kennigit wrote: Eventually people will realize that live streams of games is so open to abuse and is a bad idea. People realised this as soon as beta started but nobody offered up an actual solution to it beyond casting replays, which assumes you can even get them to begin with. | ||
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qoiN
Sweden576 Posts
On September 06 2010 04:00 TotalBiscuit wrote: This is a fairly poor analogy overall. I think it brought out my point fairly well. On September 06 2010 04:02 Cranberries wrote: Ambulances can only ever use their sirens on roads with multiple lanes, and can only ever use their sirens incase of emergency. At least this is the law in England, on a single lane road an ambulance isn't allowed to use their siren. It happened in Sweden fairly recently. | ||
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fayed
United States21 Posts
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Usul
Germany150 Posts
On September 06 2010 04:06 Telcontar wrote: well i think the issue is all cleared up between both parties. ESL had a faulty rule and a player eventually got fed up and acted out unprofessionally and immaturely. He got punished accordingly and they in turn changed the rules. to an outsider it may seem a little harsh on morrow but as an organisation, you have to take action or you will be setting a bad precedent. still, i cannot help think that maybe banning him from the next 3 events is a tad too severe since this will cripple his chances of making the next month's finals. Did anyone read this? On September 06 2010 03:27 Shawngood wrote: Since the same argument is being brought up here constantly: We actually changed our streaming policy since Wednesday's disaster and now only "verified" casters will be allowed in the games in the quarter finals and all the later stages. In the currently running cup we have 2-3 casters and no observers besides one admin in the matches and as far as I can tell there were no lag issues so far. It is actually in our interest to only have a selected few casters so that we can promote their streams on our website better and have a better run tournament overall. The rule of "anyone is welcome to stream" was introduced in beta when we were eager to have as much exposure as possible. There won't be 14 streamers or whatever ridiculous number is thrown aorund here again in a Go4SC2 match. Regarding MorroW's ban: Since we didn't announce any ban for MorroW on our website so far please take any info Rakaka or other community websites release with a grain of salt. Yes, one of our admins did talk to MorroW after the cup and we didn't let him play in today's cup but I'm sure we will find a better solution to this issue as well since it's obvious that his behaviour was caused by our organization. | ||
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TotalBiscuit
United Kingdom5437 Posts
On September 06 2010 04:07 qoiN wrote: I think it brought out my point fairly well. Well as long as you think that, I guess that's what is important? | ||
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Diamond
United States10796 Posts
On September 06 2010 04:06 TotalBiscuit wrote: People realised this as soon as beta started but nobody offered up an actual solution to it beyond casting replays, which assumes you can even get them to begin with. True. Getting replays out of top players is a horrible experience and often you will not get the replays without a threat of DQ. | ||
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