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On September 04 2010 00:28 Grettin wrote:Translate pls. Google Chrome's translator sucks.
MYM surprised by the news
they don't want to have anything to do with Sunnys actions
Sunny kicked
They never considered signing mentioned players
They only wanted to know market values of players to offer contract in special cases (kinda contradicts last statement)
They never talked about the pulic made salaries/details
they can con believe and can not understand this 'epic fail'
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From what I saw on the stream nothing was settled on $650, Cella asked how much the salary would be, and then said that he knew "violet" who was paid $650 as an example. Didn't seem like 650 would be a problem though from sunny's response.
From what we got to see, Cella would get mouses/keyboards and teamclothes, travel money to tournaments and a salary. Towards the end of the discussion Cella asked "so how much can you pay me?" and sunny said something along the lines of "man" "you are streaming this? take it off stream".
The whole thing was abit unusual, partly due to broken english. Sunny opened the discussion asking if Cella would be interested in joining a korea division of MYM. He said that he had already talked to maka and would look to form a team with maka, cella, tester and cool.
Cella said -didn't maka refuse?. I don't remember exactly what was said but Sunny said something like "oh? well we can make a team with You, tester and cool".
Hopefully Cella gets a fair deal whatever he decides to do (wait for more offers or take this). Seems like a great guy. He's not THAT good however, so maybe this deal is something he should accept. Waiting isn't always best.
~So what? HOLY CHECK!
Edit: I recited this from memory alone. I could've got some details wrong but this was how I remembered it. I dont' know where the guy above got the info that Sunny said 500 euro/month for 30 hours game time/week would be the offer. I don't remember seeing it on stream atleast.
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can someone edit it into first post, that Sunny was kicked from MYM and this was just BS and nothing serious? Short translation of the fragster news 2 posts above here
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Holy CHeck! haha
This is prime drama
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On September 04 2010 01:34 Snowfield wrote:
Holy CHeck! haha
This is prime drama
I wouldn't have said it's drama really. Just seems like teams are scouting for prospects in a more 'cowboy' way than we're used to seeing in sports.
The fact that Cella is getting interested parties is pretty awesome though!
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To be honest, I don't think results and big tourney wins are as important as they were in sc1 anymore. At least when it comes to signing a player.
Cella is a very popular guy all around the world. People know him, people like him, people watch his stream. Now why wouldn't a business oriented team be interested in adding their clantag in front of his name? Maybe I'm not that into the scene but I have never known anything about let's say Ensnare nor do I really care about him. Even if he was twice as good as Cella I cant connect with him in any way. For a european team it makes no sense to acquire a top korean player for big money if nobody over here knows or cares about him.
=> Cella is one of the prime targets for a foreign team even if he's not the best in the world
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On September 04 2010 01:34 mahrgell wrote:
can someone edit it into first post, that Sunny was kicked from MYM and this was just BS and nothing serious? Short translation of the fragster news 2 posts above here
Done.
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Idra, tester, maka , cool, and cella, in the same team, could be a death Ace of scII.
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On September 04 2010 01:43 dTox wrote:
Talk about Nerd drama. And why is everyone outside of 'Korea' labelled 'foreigners', i find that a pretty pathetic way to denote non-Korean players. It's pretty ironic too, since Blizzard is a western company.
Well, how would you label non koreans?
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wow what a coincidence that Sunny has provided fake assurance about talking with Townhall (maka) in wc3, and now in sc2.
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On September 04 2010 01:43 dTox wrote:
Talk about Nerd drama. And why is everyone outside of 'Korea' labelled 'foreigners', i find that a pretty pathetic way to denote non-Korean players. It's pretty ironic too, since Blizzard is a western company.
.. Not smart to insult tl culture/heritage as a new member. Tl is a proudly koreanphile centric website. Jsut look at the kpop thread S:
They are called foreigners cos ppl on tl see esports not as a world scene but only existing in korea. its not a derogative label when used by westerners on westerners.
Anyways does thus mean cella doesnt need donations anymore ?? XP.
Hope he goes far.
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On September 04 2010 01:40 AntiGrav1ty wrote:
To be honest, I don't think results and big tourney wins are as important as they were in sc1 anymore. At least when it comes to signing a player.
Cella is a very popular guy all around the world. People know him, people like him, people watch his stream. Now why wouldn't a business oriented team be interested in adding their clantag in front of his name? Maybe I'm not that into the scene but I have never known anything about let's say Ensnare nor do I really care about him. Even if he was twice as good as Cella I cant connect with him in any way. For a european team it makes no sense to acquire a top korean player for big money if nobody over here knows or cares about him.
=> Cella is one of the prime targets for a foreign team even if he's not the best in the world
lol, why wouldn't an organization want to win? If they sign an amateur or semi-pro player, but fail to win multiple times, it becomes a waste of money. If you look at different organizations, they always try to sign the best players in the talent pool.
I like Cella, but to say he is "very popular" is kinda far fetched because he still unknown compared to players like Tester, ITR, etc who have entered tournaments before.
For a european team it makes no sense to acquire a top korean player for big money if nobody over here knows or cares about him.
The same can be said about Moon, Lyn, and other Asian WC3 players. An example would be Moon, who is one of the best WC3 players ever, but he can't speak English too well. Yet, he has a ton of non-Korean fans because of how great of a player he is. This can be said about Cella except people like him for his skills and personality.
As for all this drama, I wasn't around to see it on his stream, but it really isn't Sunny's fault. The chances of him knowing Cella is streaming is there. Then again, he should have known that Cella likes to stream whenever he plays. As for the whole "$650" thing, it's not too far fetched because European organizations can pay a very high amount of money for their players.
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I don't see why Sunny got kicked. So dumb, he misinterpreted his instructions and it's smart reaching out to cella cause he is really popular so he would be a great player to sign on market value alone.
Edit: Nevermind got clarifed from people below. Didn't realize that Sunny was the one in the MSN.
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On September 04 2010 02:13 zoLo wrote:
As for all this drama, I wasn't around to see it on his stream, but it really isn't Sunny's fault. The chances of him knowing Cella is streaming is there. Then again, he should have known that Cella likes to stream whenever he plays. As for the whole "$650" thing, it's not too far fetched because European organizations can pay a very high amount of money for their players.
Maybe just read, what was written before?
a) Cella told him, that he is streaming right at that moment
b) Sunny wasn't even allowed by MYM to try to sign any players, he was just supposed to check market values.
c) Suny lied, when he was talking about Maka (and most likely also the others)
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On September 04 2010 02:17 KissBlade wrote:
I don't see why Sunny got kicked. So dumb, he misinterpreted his instructions and it's smart reaching out to cella cause he is really popular so he would be a great player to sign on market value alone.
I am gonna have to say that lying through your teeth and making offers that are either untrue or at the very least above your authority to offer, as well as implying that you have signed players that you clearly have not is not something that MYM and their sponsors wanted. Add to the fact that a couple of thousand people saw it live on stream adds to the embarrassment. Add on the slightly bad history MYM has with such things and it's clear this was an epic PR failure.
In short, Sunny f'ed up. bad.
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On September 04 2010 02:17 KissBlade wrote:
I don't see why Sunny got kicked. So dumb, he misinterpreted his instructions and it's smart reaching out to cella cause he is really popular so he would be a great player to sign on market value alone.
Telling Cella that Cool and Tester have agreed to join.. when that wasnt true. Dishonest, Very deserves a kick.
Its like if I went up to Morrow and said "Join my team, ill pay you $20,000 a year, and btw we have Whitera, Idra and DIMAGA all agreed to join also".. lol
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