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The Intel Extreme Masters American Group Stage selections will take place on Sunday (8/29) at 2pm EDT (11pm PDT / 8pm CEST / 3am KST - 8/30) live on djWHEAT & Chill's Weapon of Choice! Four groups of four will be selected from the following seeds. Each group will feature one high seed, one medium seed and two low seed players. The Group Stage will take place September 4th and 5th starting at 2pm EDT (Noon PDT / 9pm CEST / 4am KST).
Here are the seeds:
High Seed -
Silver (T), HuK (P), IdrA (Z), drewbie (T)
Medium Seed -
TT1 (P), Painuser (T), qxc (T), KiWiKaKi (P)
Low Seed -
artosis (Z), suggy (P), machine (Z), MurDeR (T), ajtls (T), CauthonLuck (T), fenix (T), ThisisJimmy (T)
All Cup Winners were guaranteed a high or medium seed which included Silver, drewbie, TT1 and Painuser. Intel Extreme Masters competitions were given the highest priority for seeding placement with outside tournaments playing a smaller part. Streaming video will be available and players can find streams on National ESL before the event.
A change was made to qualifications, and instead of a relegation matches we will be taking players directly from groups so the top 2 in each group will advanced to the LAN finals.
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How the hell is KiwiKaki a lower seed than Huk? I really don't understand that. No disrespect to huk, but I think Kiwi is the better toss.
Now that I reread it a couple times hmm  sadpanda ;o.
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On August 27 2010 11:47 Merikh wrote:How the hell is KiwiKaki a lower seed than Huk? I really don't understand that. No disrespect to huk, but I think Kiwi is the better toss. Now that I reread it a couple times hmm sadpanda ;o.
Well Kiwikaki hasn't played in many tournaments so that would be why he's a lower seed. The same can be said to some terran players I won't name that shouldn't be as high and some lower ones that should be higher but again it goes by tournament results ^^.
Will be very interesting on who advances 
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HuK 1482 ELO, KOTB invitee, 2nd place IEM cup #2, 1st place wolf cup #4, 1st place ITL grand prix not counting beta achievements (LIQUIPEDIA ROX)
Kiwikaki 1281 ELO, 3rd/4th IEM cup #2
Simple choice based on past achievements. I'd question drewbie's place in the high seed more. And regarding IdrA, I suppose your conclusion that he's a class above his 15 competitors outweighs the fact that he chose to not participate in the semis/finals. Or it could be the first thing that came to my mind: PUT IDRA WITH THE 3 PEOPLE HE CHEWED OUT IN A GAME BEFORE ! 1 one !1
Oh, ESL, you do not disappoint.
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On August 27 2010 11:47 Merikh wrote:How the hell is KiwiKaki a lower seed than Huk? I really don't understand that. No disrespect to huk, but I think Kiwi is the better toss. Now that I reread it a couple times hmm sadpanda ;o.
the real question is why drewbie and silver are higher seeds that qxc
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never even heard of MurDeR or ajtls - maybe aka's?
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ajtls is last shadow afaik, why is silver high seed? :S
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ajtls is lastshadow maybe you have hear of him
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On August 27 2010 12:07 kickinhead wrote:
never even heard of MurDeR or ajtls - maybe aka's?
Murder used to be a Pro (might have been semi) for Warcraft 3. Very solid terran player he also streams here on TL as murdersc2 if you haven't seen it which obviously you haven't  .
He hasn't done many tournaments due to late sign ups would be another reason his names not out there yet
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Artosis seeded below painuser. OUCH.
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9 Terrans
4 Protoss
3 Zerg
0 Random
This reminds me of the BroodWar All Star Game now XD
Looking forward to some awesome games, the last set of IEM ones were all really good. Go protoss, one of you guys must make it to the semis this time!
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god i really hope painuser doesnt mass tanks in every single matchup. it may bring success but it is hardly entertaining.
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No Liquid`Tyler
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Look at all those Terrans. I would like to see more games in tournaments where T is not part of the matchup name.
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the seeds are determined by who got what place in each tournament
the higher seeds all got 1st place in each cup, the medium seeds got 2nd, while the low seeds got top 4.
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why are drewbie and silver up there?
i should be saying the same thing to huk as well
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On August 27 2010 13:00 PhiliBiRD wrote:
the seeds are determined by who got what place in each tournament
the higher seeds all got 1st place in each cup, the medium seeds got 2nd, while the low seeds got top 4.
I thought so too but Huk lost to silver in the first IEM cup. So I don't really think that was how they did it .
Also Nony didn't qualify its why he's not in this don't even think he tried
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I'm unclear as to why idrA is considered American? He's lived in Korea for the entirety of his SC2 career.
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On August 27 2010 13:06 Boonesbane wrote:
I'm unclear as to why idrA is considered American? He's lived in Korea for the entirety of his SC2 career.
Maybe because he was born in and grew up in and has citizenship in America?
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On August 27 2010 13:06 Boonesbane wrote:
I'm unclear as to why idrA is considered American? He's lived in Korea for the entirety of his SC2 career.
the only difference it has made is that i practice a lot, which is hardly korean specific
theres no other sc2 players in cj and anyone who wants to and can get someone to make them an account can play on the korean server.
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Silver above Painuser and Drewbie confuses me a bit to be honest. Rest are alright.
Banner is amusing too.
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On August 27 2010 13:06 Boonesbane wrote:
I'm unclear as to why idrA is considered American? He's lived in Korea for the entirety of his SC2 career.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jus_soli
What does living in Korea have to do with participating in an American Tournament?
Also, why would e-Sports be any different than all the other sports in the world. I mean, I didn't see Lance Armstrong participating in the national championship of Germany or anything like that...
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Hmm...
I'm not really into SC2, but from the sound/look of it T is kinda OP...
Is it really ok to host that many tournaments when one of the races in still in need of fixing?
NOTE: I don't play SC2, but I've seen many complain about T imbalance
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Sunday 1 pm, which year? Seriously where is the date...
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On August 27 2010 13:07 Mikilatov wrote:
Maybe because he was born in and grew up in and has citizenship in America?
QFT
Just let Idra play. The IEM would be that much more boring without Idra anyways.
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I hope everything goes well for MurDeR, good luck to everyone else also.
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On August 27 2010 17:51 HeIios wrote:
I hope everything goes well for MurDeR, good luck to everyone else also.
Indeed hoping for Murder to qualify for the group stage.
My dream match would be Finals Murder vs Idra Murder winning (no biasness whatsoever *whistle*).
Should be very interesting can't wait to see the groups and all (like who's in group a/b/c/d)
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I believe HuK is from Canada?
stop trying to steal our thunder
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People only realised Silver existed like a few weeks ago and now he's top seed above those players? Meh, not sure I agree with these seedings tbh.
Artosis below PainUser... lol I bet he's not happy about that ^^
So so many Terrans as well, its kinda sad =/
Hope to see Machine do really well, think he's a seriously underrated player.
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On August 27 2010 13:07 IdrA wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2010 13:06 Boonesbane wrote:
I'm unclear as to why idrA is considered American? He's lived in Korea for the entirety of his SC2 career. the only difference it has made is that i practice a lot, which is hardly korean specific theres no other sc2 players in cj and anyone who wants to and can get someone to make them an account can play on the korean server.
So wait does he consider himself more Korean or more American? The wording on that was kind of ambiguous. Sorry!
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Does anyone know if this is going to be streamed?
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On August 27 2010 18:44 Zerksys wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2010 13:07 IdrA wrote:On August 27 2010 13:06 Boonesbane wrote:
I'm unclear as to why idrA is considered American? He's lived in Korea for the entirety of his SC2 career. the only difference it has made is that i practice a lot, which is hardly korean specific theres no other sc2 players in cj and anyone who wants to and can get someone to make them an account can play on the korean server. So wait does he consider himself more Korean or more American? The wording on that was kind of ambiguous. Sorry! == Does anyone know if this is going to be streamed?
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im american obviously
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On August 27 2010 18:21 Subversion wrote:
People only realised Silver existed like a few weeks ago and now he's top seed above those players? Meh, not sure I agree with these seedings tbh.
Idra makes players famous when he rages against them. When Silver is mentioned I'd wager the majority of players automatically think "Oh yea he's the terran idra raged against." and know little to nothing of his play
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indeed, if you wanna become known in sc2, one of the methods besides streaming, youtubing, and do well in tournaments is to make idra rage...
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On August 27 2010 18:21 Subversion wrote:
People only realised Silver existed like a few weeks ago and now he's top seed above those players? Meh, not sure I agree with these seedings tbh.
Apparently all you need to do these days is win a TvZ with mech on close spawns and another with sieging a LT cliff to become gosu material. Go figure.
So so many Terrans as well, its kinda sad =/
Did anyone not expect it? lol. Everyone likes easymode!
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Hope kiwikaki and qxc make it far or win it otherwise hoping idra wins
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Silver has performed well against people on that list and beat them in a previous ESL. Silver seeded makes sense due to his performance in ESL sanctioned tournaments.
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On August 27 2010 13:06 Boonesbane wrote:
I'm unclear as to why idrA is considered American? He's lived in Korea for the entirety of his SC2 career.
So with this logic, when our men and women across seas come home from Afghanistan they will be greeted with this message: I'm sorry ma'am/sir, but you are no longer American because you have been serving your entire military career abroad, so you will be deported back to the warzone. Have a safe trip.
Sorry for the exaggerated example, but I just wanted to emphasize on the silliness of your statement.
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On August 27 2010 13:07 Mikilatov wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2010 13:06 Boonesbane wrote:
I'm unclear as to why idrA is considered American? He's lived in Korea for the entirety of his SC2 career. Maybe because he was born in and grew up in and has citizenship in America?
Then why did he get to play in the Europe IEM?
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Regarding Idra: The Europe IEM event that happened last week was not part of the IEM World Championship Qualification process.
Idra is an American, living in Korea, and chose to play as an American. This means that he will need to do all of his official IEM Qualifying as an American.
I will have the post updated later today with more relevant information... including the dates and full schedule.
Thank you guys.. keep up the comments.. Good or bad!
If you have any specific questions, I will do my best to answer them.
John Clark
ESL Tournament Director
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On August 27 2010 23:22 Thrombozyt wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2010 13:07 Mikilatov wrote:On August 27 2010 13:06 Boonesbane wrote:
I'm unclear as to why idrA is considered American? He's lived in Korea for the entirety of his SC2 career. Maybe because he was born in and grew up in and has citizenship in America? Then why did he get to play in the Europe IEM?
It was the world challenge.
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On August 27 2010 23:22 Thrombozyt wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2010 13:07 Mikilatov wrote:On August 27 2010 13:06 Boonesbane wrote:
I'm unclear as to why idrA is considered American? He's lived in Korea for the entirety of his SC2 career. Maybe because he was born in and grew up in and has citizenship in America? Then why did he get to play in the Europe IEM?
It wasn't for Europeans only.
HuK and Artosis played too.
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exactly. It was not part of the IEM World Championships that include Winners from several Countries. It was a BONUS!
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On August 27 2010 11:47 Merikh wrote:How the hell is KiwiKaki a lower seed than Huk? I really don't understand that. No disrespect to huk, but I think Kiwi is the better toss. Now that I reread it a couple times hmm sadpanda ;o.
Kiwikaki is his own worst enemy sometimes. He refuses to play in most tournaments and leagues such as the ITL. He has done nothing to help promote his name, instead just relies on the top players spreading his name for him.
HuK is anywhere and everywhere on the SC2 scene. HuK went from a no one to one of the most well known Protoss players in the world because he was willing to play in every tournament he could find time for, and has a much longer list of accomplishments because of it.
I know how good Kiwikaki is but he really needs to start playing in more events or he will just start fading into the shadow. Hell I tell him like four times a week he needs to start playing in the ITL so I can help him promote his name.
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On August 27 2010 23:22 Thrombozyt wrote:
Then why did he get to play in the Europe IEM?
Gamescom was an invite event. It wasn't officially apart of any regional event. IEM Europe event starts much smaller in all the individual countries in Europe. Then they send players to IEM Europe Finals.
In the Americas we only have National ESL so there's really only one group doing the qualification.
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On August 27 2010 23:35 ESL_John wrote:
Regarding Idra: The Europe IEM event that happened last week was not part of the IEM World Championship Qualification process.
I thought they said that MorroW got an automatic qualification bid to the IEM World Championship for winning? Maybe I misheard someone.
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I could be wrong.. I apologize. I will confirm the meaning of the Gamecon event.
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On August 28 2010 00:57 vx70GTOJudgexv wrote:
I thought they said that MorroW got an automatic qualification bid to the IEM World Championship for winning? Maybe I misheard someone.
Read my comment above yours. Gamescom was a Global Challenge event so John meant it wasn't apart of the regional qualification process. It was basically a way for players to skip the regional qualification process and get a direct seat in the World Championships. MorroW earned his spot so IdrA has to go through the American qualification still.
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Well, aren't we all spectators glad that IdrA didn't qualify directly since this means we get to see more of his games?
I'm no IdrA fan, but honestly, not seeing many good zergs in tournaments makes me want to cheer for IdrA since he can hold his line against the swarm of Terrans spawning left and right.
Also no Randoms?
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On August 27 2010 23:22 Thrombozyt wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2010 13:07 Mikilatov wrote:On August 27 2010 13:06 Boonesbane wrote:
I'm unclear as to why idrA is considered American? He's lived in Korea for the entirety of his SC2 career. Maybe because he was born in and grew up in and has citizenship in America? Then why did he get to play in the Europe IEM?
yeah that part i didnt understand unless it was because there was no asian iem and you are allowed to play where you live as well. But he should be able to play in amercian tournaments for sure. As long as they have rules and are consistent with them I am fine with it. Plus i love watching idra play
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Breakdown for everyone confused:
IEM Asia - (2-5 qualified players)
IEM America - (2-5 qualified players - At NYC Comic Con)
IEM Europe - (2-5 qualified players)
Winners of Global Challenge - (Currently only Shanghai and Gamescom are challenges)
So all five the of the current events (IEM Asia, America, Europe and Global Challenges Shanghai and Gamescom) are the only ways to attend the World Championships.
Now I don't know for sure, I'm just guessing, but I bet there will be 16 players with something like 4 America, 5 Europe, 5 Asia and 2 Global Challenges. Those could all change if more Global Challenges are offered or if they reduce number of players to only 8-12 or something.
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Updated the time of the broadcast. I did bad math, djWHEAT's show is at 2pm EST. I hope everyone can attended and it should be interesting to see who will play next week.
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Drawing is happening soon.
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Man, if Artosis gets seeded into a group with 3 terrans, that will be hilarious
Edit: oh yeah, heheh:D also all terran group, that will be...interesting.
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LOOOOL poor Artosis xD i can't stop laughing
i feel your pain dude
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Group A
iDra
TTone
Fenix
SUGGY
Group B
Huk
Kiwikaki
LastShadow
Machine
Group Terran
Silver
QXC
ThisIsJimmy
Murder
Group D
Drewbie
PainUser
Cauthonluck
Artosis
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Artosis is going to be thrilled.
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LOL Artosis.... good luck.
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Group C is now to be referred to as Group T
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group A and B are so much harder than C and D whoa O_O
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Wow, machine really doesn't have any luck at all.
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Group B is so strong, let's hope Kiwi and Huk get through.
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On August 27 2010 11:47 Merikh wrote:How the hell is KiwiKaki a lower seed than Huk? I really don't understand that. No disrespect to huk, but I think Kiwi is the better toss. Now that I reread it a couple times hmm sadpanda ;o.
Actually if you watched the MLG finals, which I'm sure a lot of people have by now. Huk beat KiwiKaki in the finals. It's hard to compare two players directly though.
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poor poor artosis
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Looks like Zerg will again have a large population late in a big tournament. ;_;
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On August 28 2010 01:09 midway wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2010 00:57 vx70GTOJudgexv wrote:
I thought they said that MorroW got an automatic qualification bid to the IEM World Championship for winning? Maybe I misheard someone. Read my comment above yours. Gamescom was a Global Challenge event so John meant it wasn't apart of the regional qualification process. It was basically a way for players to skip the regional qualification process and get a direct seat in the World Championships. MorroW earned his spot so IdrA has to go through the American qualification still.
Ok, I wasn't sure. Some comments had made it seem like he didn't get any spot and I was scratching my head on that one.
Groups look good, Group B looks pretty tough. Good games are sure to follow.
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