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Official State of the Game Podcast Thread - Page 706
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Baarn
United States2702 Posts
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Qikz
United Kingdom12022 Posts
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imareaver3
United States906 Posts
On April 07 2011 07:26 Jibba wrote: It wasn't significant, because the number of shots to kill was still the same, except with hydras. And the Mech domination continued in phase 2, after patch 15 was released. Banelings survived splash after the nerf. Before it, a siege tank shot would kill all the banelings in its full-damage area and its half-damage area; after the nerf, banelings in the half-damage area survived a shot. The nerf meant that banelings had a much longer lifespan against sieged tanks, which made muta/bling/ling viable. | ||
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Mailing
United States3087 Posts
On April 07 2011 07:25 GeorgeForeman wrote: The game is evolving. It'll keep evolving as the two expansions come out. For people to sit back and complain about balance when there are still lots of unexplored paths in the game is lazy. They have the right to complain when it's possible that they will lose a 50,000$ tourney to a build that is nerfed 2 months later (hypothetically) I know there is no way around this, but it doesn't mean professional players are not slightly justified when bitching. It's not like zergs, especially idra, are not trying to grind out different strats at the same time, while complaining. | ||
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dapierow
Serbia1316 Posts
On April 07 2011 07:28 imareaver3 wrote: Banelings survived splash after the nerf. Before it, a siege tank shot would kill all the banelings in its full-damage area and its half-damage area; after the nerf, banelings in the half-damage area survived a shot. The nerf meant that banelings had a much longer lifespan against sieged tanks, which made muta/bling/ling viable. Yeah totally because so many people pushed out with just one seige tank ... | ||
Jibba
United States22883 Posts
On April 07 2011 07:28 imareaver3 wrote: Banelings survived splash after the nerf. Before it, a siege tank shot would kill all the banelings in its full-damage area and its half-damage area; after the nerf, banelings in the half-damage area survived a shot. The nerf meant that banelings had a much longer lifespan against sieged tanks, which made muta/bling/ling viable. It was still Mech, banelings were not the key component. It was massively outexpanding the slow T combined with better map control and muta magic box micro. | ||
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Kolvacs
Canada1203 Posts
 ?That would be really cool. | ||
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Swarmed
59 Posts
On April 07 2011 07:28 imareaver3 wrote: Banelings survived splash after the nerf. Before it, a siege tank shot would kill all the banelings in its full-damage area and its half-damage area; after the nerf, banelings in the half-damage area survived a shot. The nerf meant that banelings had a much longer lifespan against sieged tanks, which made muta/bling/ling viable. You shouldn't insist, serious people are telling you it's all in the metagame :D There's a guy that just said Terran uses medivacs less? Maybe it's because their speed got nerfed.. but then I don't know, I'm not Day[9]. Seriously guys.. the "metagame" really didn't evolve that much at all if you disregard the "evolutions" related to balance changes, or those having to do with using larger maps and removing steppes etc. I'm just waiting for a poster to come in with "omg Terran stopped Thor rushing on LT in TvZ". Yeah I wonder why too. | ||
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MrCon
France29748 Posts
On April 07 2011 07:25 dapierow wrote: and yet a game lost to TLO's two rax at MLG, and Morrowd dropped a game in tsl to jinro because the 2 rax set him so far behind so whats that about "NO ONE dies from it anymore" Yeah obviously you can nitpick, but the point stand. The state of the TvP is a perfect example too. | ||
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dapierow
Serbia1316 Posts
On April 07 2011 07:33 Kolvacs wrote: So, is Tasteless ever going to make a guest appearance ?That would be really cool. Artosis would be way better than tasteless, tasteless is cool and all but hes the entertaining comentator while Artosis is the analysis guy | ||
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TRAP[yoo]
Hungary6026 Posts
i do think that people like idra put effort in finding new builds. but if we make the comparison to bw...protosses in bw also worked on their PvZ and just ONE person(bisu) chaged the matchup completely. | ||
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MrCon
France29748 Posts
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Uhnno
Netherlands288 Posts
On April 07 2011 07:33 Kolvacs wrote: So, is Tasteless ever going to make a guest appearance ?That would be really cool. TLO, jinro and tasteless were the guests in state of the game #7. | ||
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dapierow
Serbia1316 Posts
On April 07 2011 07:34 MrCon wrote: Yeah obviously you can nitpick, but the point stand. The state of the TvP is a perfect example too. no the point doesnt stand | ||
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Swarmed
59 Posts
Oh but what a coincidence, Artosis who actually played Zerg would also be "whining" about it. It's like a curse, you play Zerg and them BAM, that race just HAPPENS to make you complain about balance. Even Morrow! Crazy isnt it? | ||
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suejak
Japan545 Posts
On April 07 2011 07:36 Swarmed wrote: @dapierow Oh but what a coincidence, Artosis who actually played Zerg would also be "whining" about it. It's like a curse, you play Zerg and them BAM, that race just HAPPENS to make you complain about balance. Even Morrow! Crazy isnt it? You do realize that Morrow, Idra, and especially Artosis complained connnstantly about Terran being underpowered in Brood War? So you either have to say, "Terran is UP in BW," or you have to say, "These players are easily frustrated by poor results, which leads them to blaming the game instead of themselves." | ||
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TRAP[yoo]
Hungary6026 Posts
On April 07 2011 07:36 Swarmed wrote: Oh but what a coincidence, Artosis who actually played Zerg would also be "whining" about it. It's like a curse, you play Zerg and them BAM, that race just HAPPENS to make you complain about balance. Even Morrow! Crazy isnt it? artosis and idra also whine about terran in starcraft bw although most bonjwas and god himself are playing terran... | ||
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Jibba
United States22883 Posts
On April 07 2011 07:33 Swarmed wrote: You shouldn't insist, serious people are telling you it's all in the metagame :D There's a guy that just said Terran uses medivacs less? Maybe it's because their speed got nerfed.. but then I don't know, I'm not Day[9]. Seriously guys.. the "metagame" really didn't evolve that much at all if you disregard the "evolutions" related to balance changes, or those having to do with using larger maps and removing steppes etc. I'm just waiting for a poster to come in with "omg Terran stopped Thor rushing on LT in TvZ". Yeah I wonder why too. Large maps are a recent thing. Cliff drops on LT were stopped for the same reason that Mech was killed off. Zergs figured out how to take map control instead of playing roach/hydra against everything. There's no reason to be facetious when you're not even attempting to argue your case legitimately. | ||
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Swarmed
59 Posts
On April 07 2011 07:39 suejak wrote: You do realize that Morrow, Idra, and especially Artosis complained connnstantly about Terran being underpowered in Brood War? So you either have to say, "Terran is UP in BW," or you have to say, "These players are easily frustrated by poor results, which leads them to blaming the game instead of themselves." Ok, let's add Dimaga, Fruitdealer himself, and just about everyone who's played Zerg at a competitive level. Seriously, show me a good Zerg player with some results that hasn't complained about balance at some point or another. GLHF. Edit: not to mention Sen (who is always mentioned as one of the best Zergs) and his famous forcefield video. | ||
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Nakas
United States148 Posts
On April 07 2011 07:25 MrCon wrote: The Ret post I remember was in the GSL live report thread of the day he got eliminated. Don't have the link, but it should be easily findable. Sorry, but at this point I gotta say link or it didn't happen. From what I've seen, when Idra calls something out as imba, he has been pretty much right on the money in retrospect every time. | ||
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