Official State of the Game Podcast Thread - Page 2658

On April 15 2013 11:56 HeeroFX wrote:
all i gotta say is....haha

On April 13 2013 08:32 HeeroFX wrote:
Really interesting stuff catz and artosis talked about. Catz did really well to paint the picture. Like honestly if your a foreign player trying to make something happen in SC 2 you should follow suppy's route. Suppy competes at big events, but he is also going to college. You should get that degree to have that back up plan. I think it is up to teams and even event organiziors to help support players. Koreans in team houses have everything taken care of. So if you they only have to worry about playing you will always do better than the guy who has to pay bills, cook food. I seriously don't think people should go for pro gaming as a career right now unless you have some sort of support, be that your parents house, or a Team. But you can't just say I am gonna quit college or going to work to play.

On April 13 2013 12:57 YyapSsap wrote:


Maybe Im getting old but since when did Korean parents were more open to the idea of their kids becoming progamers? That would be the ultimate humiliation to their parents in this current/previous generation of oldies. It'd be so absurd and ridiculous that they'd abandon you and kick you outta the house along with throwing down the PC from a 30 storey apartment..

I have no idea what makes people think "progaming" is actually accepted in Korea as a legitimate profession (although its getting there ever so slowly). Its okay being a fan because your not directly involved in it, but having it as a profession is a whole new different thing. The amount of scrutiny you have to overcome from the society is huge and more so years ago during the Boxer/Nada era where there was simply nothing. Those guys lived off instant noodles, no team houses or teams, no salary etc.

Catz fails to see this in context. He doesn't realise just how much sacrifice/effort was made/put into by alot of people to see what we see today from the past 15 years or so. An image of "progaming and esports" in Korea being sort of a legitimate profession and sport with established leagues/teams, sponsors etc. Thats why many don't understand (on TL atleast) why so many people who were involved in making this possible in Korea backlashed so hard when Savior almost pulled the plug on the entire Korean Scene with match fixing scandal.

Based on my own personal experience, these sort of "opportunities" are more open in the western culture hence why its acceptable to not go to an university where as in Asia you'll be looked down upon and treated as a no one. That's why its so amazing to see how esports have gotten this far in Korea which is suffering hugely from all this high society *** attitude and academic qualification paranoia..

On April 19 2013 23:20 Qikz wrote:
I really wish you'd get could find another Terran who thinks about mech differently JP so him and theognis could talk together. It was a great show again and Geoff was once again fantastic, but I always feel so let down when despite loads of people playing mech, theognis continues to just write mech off as gimmicky when even lategame in Game 3 Maru could have won that game had he played it out better and not got over-eager to win.

On April 20 2013 00:56 JacobDaKung wrote:
Can anyone link the talk where mrbitter and rotterdam talks about NASL and wcs?

On April 15 2013 11:56 HeeroFX wrote:
all i gotta say is....haha http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5eXuOPOxAY

On April 16 2013 04:48 Irre wrote:



omg that was gold... I miss the original cast

On April 23 2013 07:24 pulperi wrote:
So who's gonna replace artosis on the show and why is he stepping down ? :o

On April 20 2013 02:45 Qikz wrote:


I think I might have over-reacted somewhat since all I've heard you say is pretty much what you've said the past couple of SOTG's because unfortunately I never had a chance to watch you stream/read before. I guess I just worry as someone who loves mech, that when community figures such as yourself outright call mech gimmicky that a lot of players who listen/read that at maybe lower levels will just write it off completely. Maybe I don't have enough faith in the StarCraft community members to not take every word as stone cold fact, but the less people who play mech, the less people start to figure it out.

I understand bio is better in TvZ currently, but I mean that's the same in every matchup as mech was never really "figured out" to the point of bio in SC2 since nobody really used it outside of MVP at the highest levels, but calling mech gimmicky at this stage when it's still being figured out made me somewhat miffed, so sorry If I offended you at all, I certainly didn't mean to. I'd just love to listen to you and Strelok (just an example of a mecher I guess) have a discussion because I can't remember the last time there was a discussion between Terrans on SOTG, it'd be really interesting to listen to :p

On April 23 2013 07:33 crms wrote:


is this real? I haven't been able to watch the last 2 episodes yet but can anyone confirm no more artosis? This would really suck, I could listen to artosis talk about starcraft for hourssssssss every day.