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This community is fucking ridiculous sometimes. Day9 does not owe us an apology, he does not owe it to us to leave the scene, he does not owe us shit. People are forgetting the grass roots of the scene: this is a man who was balancing a full time education while travelling internationally and dedicating many free hours for our entertainment (without costing us a fucking penny).
He took a chance on an invite to a tournament, and it didn't pay off. It could've been an amazing upset to have a complete unknown go on a tear through a stacked tournament (which I'm sure is why D9 invited him) but it didn't happen.
That's all this is. There is no need for lynching, no need to be upset. One player didn't perform adequately despite an invite to a prestigious tournament. Stop being so fucking entitled.
Edit: This is directed to the thread, not the comments on the podcast.
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On May 28 2012 23:39 Durn wrote:
This community is fucking ridiculous sometimes. Day9 does not owe us an apology, he does not owe it to us to leave the scene, he does not owe us shit. People are forgetting the grass roots of the scene: this is a man who was balancing a full time education while travelling internationally and dedicating many free hours for our entertainment (without costing us a fucking penny).
He took a chance on an invite to a tournament, and it didn't pay off. It could've been an amazing upset to have a complete unknown go on a tear through a stacked tournament (which I'm sure is why D9 invited him) but it didn't happen.
That's all this is. There is no need for lynching, no need to be upset. One player didn't perform adequately despite an invite to a prestigious tournament. Stop being so fucking entitled.
Edit: This is directed to the thread, not the comments on the podcast.
I think your signature says it all. That's a simple rehash of edison's quote about failure and creating lightbulbs. Day9 is no super human and he has profited greatly (Artosis has talked about their awesome new caster salaries) from the scene. He does owe the fans something, as without fans the entire scene is destroyed.
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On May 28 2012 23:43 jarf1337 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2012 23:39 Durn wrote:
This community is fucking ridiculous sometimes. Day9 does not owe us an apology, he does not owe it to us to leave the scene, he does not owe us shit. People are forgetting the grass roots of the scene: this is a man who was balancing a full time education while travelling internationally and dedicating many free hours for our entertainment (without costing us a fucking penny).
He took a chance on an invite to a tournament, and it didn't pay off. It could've been an amazing upset to have a complete unknown go on a tear through a stacked tournament (which I'm sure is why D9 invited him) but it didn't happen.
That's all this is. There is no need for lynching, no need to be upset. One player didn't perform adequately despite an invite to a prestigious tournament. Stop being so fucking entitled.
Edit: This is directed to the thread, not the comments on the podcast. I think your signature says it all. That's a simple rehash of edison's quote about failure and creating lightbulbs. Day9 is no super human and he has profited greatly (Artosis has talked about their awesome new caster salaries) from the scene. He does owe the fans something, as without fans the entire scene is destroyed.
Of course he owes the fans his success, I'm sure he'd be the first person to tell you that. What he doesn't owe to fans is to apologize for everything he does that someone might see as a mistake. Do you know why exactly Lastshadow was invited, and if his invite met Day9's and the organizers their expectations? Because I sure don't. For all you know they could be completely fine with the way it went.
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i gotta say the last episode was awesome :D Incontrol + Darkforce = ubernice
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On May 28 2012 23:17 Dosey wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2012 22:58 Quotidian wrote:On May 28 2012 22:32 FuzzyJAM wrote:On May 28 2012 22:02 Quotidian wrote:On May 28 2012 17:23 farnham wrote:
day9 needs to apologize to the scene or leave the scene after this debacle with last shadow
he got in a player that has no (positive record) and let him into poolplay with players like parting or squirtle
last shadow lost every match he played and left the tournament in a bm manner because he didnt "feel well".
did mvp feel well with his injured wrist when he won gsl against squirtle last week? probably not.
day 9 got in a player that doesnt fit the criteria of "one of the best players in the world" and he needs to feel responsible for this . the last time an invite like this was done was probably lucifron in dreamhack valencia but that was to appeal to the local crowd. this time there is no real reason outside that lastshadow seems to be a friend of day 9 Day9 doesn't "need" to do anything. Acquire a grasp on reality, please. It's just a game and LS playing and failing isn't important enough to demand anybody's head on the block. Sheth, Ostojiy, Thorzain or Illusion didn't exactly have extremely impressive runs either (perfectly understandable results given the level of competition), but no one is getting upset about this - but that's because we've collectively decided to like Sheth or whatever. I had my fair share of schadenfreude when LS went 0-3 as well, because that's just human nature, but this LS/Day9 nepotism witchhunt that Incontrol is partially responsible for just shows how dumb and single minded this community is. Get over it. Being OK with Sheth, Ostojiy, Thorzain or Illusion might have more to do with the fact that they're actually known players who have at least had some success. It makes sense if you want to have foreigners (and assuming you don't get whoever you want) to go with them. LastShadow hasn't done anything impressive ever and hadn't even been seen for about a year. Vastly different. + Show Spoiler + OstojiyAchievements 2011 Date Event Result 2011-06-17 Toronto Quest for the Best Ostojiy 3 : 1 IefNaij 2011-06-12 US Go4SC2 Cup #64 Ostojiy 2 : 1 daisuki 2011-05-15 US Go4SC2 Cup #56 Ostojiy 3 : 0 LuckyFool 2011-04-30 US CraftCup #31 Ostojiy 1 : 3 SungpA LastShadowAchievements 2011 Date Event Result 2011-11-06 NESC2 League Season 2 LastShadow 2 : 3 Boyo 2011-07-02 NA ZOTAC Cup #8 LastShadow 3 : 0 HongUn 2011-05-21 NA ZOTAC Cup #2 LastShadow 3 : 2 rsvp 2011-04-17 NESC2 League Season 1 LastShadow 3 : 1 Ryan 2011-04-15 IG Cup #6 LastShadow 4 : 3 Warden 2010 Date Event Result 2010-08-28 MLG Raleigh LastShadow 0 : 2 Socke 2010-08-15 NVIDIA GosuCup US Qualifier #1 LastShadow 3 : 1 HayprO So how does Ostojiy get out of a 0-3 unremarked upon, while LS gets hounded, while idiots are demanding Day9's retirement because of LS' performance? You're forgetting that he actually has a team and is very active in team leagues as well... Plus he didn't go 0-4 in maps and leave the event.
irrelevant
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On May 28 2012 23:53 howLiN wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2012 23:43 jarf1337 wrote:On May 28 2012 23:39 Durn wrote:
This community is fucking ridiculous sometimes. Day9 does not owe us an apology, he does not owe it to us to leave the scene, he does not owe us shit. People are forgetting the grass roots of the scene: this is a man who was balancing a full time education while travelling internationally and dedicating many free hours for our entertainment (without costing us a fucking penny).
He took a chance on an invite to a tournament, and it didn't pay off. It could've been an amazing upset to have a complete unknown go on a tear through a stacked tournament (which I'm sure is why D9 invited him) but it didn't happen.
That's all this is. There is no need for lynching, no need to be upset. One player didn't perform adequately despite an invite to a prestigious tournament. Stop being so fucking entitled.
Edit: This is directed to the thread, not the comments on the podcast. I think your signature says it all. That's a simple rehash of edison's quote about failure and creating lightbulbs. Day9 is no super human and he has profited greatly (Artosis has talked about their awesome new caster salaries) from the scene. He does owe the fans something, as without fans the entire scene is destroyed. Of course he owes the fans his success, I'm sure he'd be the first person to tell you that. What he doesn't owe to fans is to apologize for everything he does that someone might see as a mistake. Do you know why exactly Lastshadow was invited, and if his invite met Day9's and the organizers their expectations? Because I sure don't. For all you know they could be completely fine with the way it went.
Whatever about the invite in the first place. I think we can say that LS has destroyed his chances of ever being invited to any event for a long time, leaving the whole tourney out to dry like this, disappearing without a trace because he wasn't feeling well without telling anyone.
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On May 28 2012 23:43 jarf1337 wrote:
He does owe the fans something, as without fans the entire scene is destroyed.
No.
There is no debt in this situation. There is no obligation on the part of Day[9] or the part of SC2 fans in this situation.
Day[9] has produced content for the SC2 fan community in the past and profited from it. His past success was not built upon the idea that he would continue to make dailies, competitions and casts; it was based on the content he had already created. If he stops today, that is his choice alone.
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Lol. People are actually crucifying Day9 now? God, I hate this community sometimes. Who gives a fuck if LastShadow did well or didn't do well? Day9 himself said that he was just an invite, and that he was an experiment. Experiment failed, so he won't be invited next time. What more do you want? Should Day9 build a fucking time machine and undo the past?
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On May 28 2012 22:58 Quotidian wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2012 22:32 FuzzyJAM wrote:On May 28 2012 22:02 Quotidian wrote:On May 28 2012 17:23 farnham wrote:
day9 needs to apologize to the scene or leave the scene after this debacle with last shadow
he got in a player that has no (positive record) and let him into poolplay with players like parting or squirtle
last shadow lost every match he played and left the tournament in a bm manner because he didnt "feel well".
did mvp feel well with his injured wrist when he won gsl against squirtle last week? probably not.
day 9 got in a player that doesnt fit the criteria of "one of the best players in the world" and he needs to feel responsible for this . the last time an invite like this was done was probably lucifron in dreamhack valencia but that was to appeal to the local crowd. this time there is no real reason outside that lastshadow seems to be a friend of day 9 Day9 doesn't "need" to do anything. Acquire a grasp on reality, please. It's just a game and LS playing and failing isn't important enough to demand anybody's head on the block. Sheth, Ostojiy, Thorzain or Illusion didn't exactly have extremely impressive runs either (perfectly understandable results given the level of competition), but no one is getting upset about this - but that's because we've collectively decided to like Sheth or whatever. I had my fair share of schadenfreude when LS went 0-3 as well, because that's just human nature, but this LS/Day9 nepotism witchhunt that Incontrol is partially responsible for just shows how dumb and single minded this community is. Get over it. Being OK with Sheth, Ostojiy, Thorzain or Illusion might have more to do with the fact that they're actually known players who have at least had some success. It makes sense if you want to have foreigners (and assuming you don't get whoever you want) to go with them. LastShadow hasn't done anything impressive ever and hadn't even been seen for about a year. Vastly different. OstojiyAchievements 2011 Date Event Result 2011-06-17 Toronto Quest for the Best Ostojiy 3 : 1 IefNaij 2011-06-12 US Go4SC2 Cup #64 Ostojiy 2 : 1 daisuki 2011-05-15 US Go4SC2 Cup #56 Ostojiy 3 : 0 LuckyFool 2011-04-30 US CraftCup #31 Ostojiy 1 : 3 SungpA LastShadowAchievements 2011 Date Event Result 2011-11-06 NESC2 League Season 2 LastShadow 2 : 3 Boyo 2011-07-02 NA ZOTAC Cup #8 LastShadow 3 : 0 HongUn 2011-05-21 NA ZOTAC Cup #2 LastShadow 3 : 2 rsvp 2011-04-17 NESC2 League Season 1 LastShadow 3 : 1 Ryan 2011-04-15 IG Cup #6 LastShadow 4 : 3 Warden 2010 Date Event Result 2010-08-28 MLG Raleigh LastShadow 0 : 2 Socke 2010-08-15 NVIDIA GosuCup US Qualifier #1 LastShadow 3 : 1 HayprO So how does Ostojiy get out of a 0-3 unremarked upon, while LS gets hounded, while idiots are demanding Day9's retirement because of LS' performance?
You're right.
Ostojiy is another player who I have no idea how he got an invite.
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On May 28 2012 23:57 Quotidian wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2012 23:17 Dosey wrote:On May 28 2012 22:58 Quotidian wrote:On May 28 2012 22:32 FuzzyJAM wrote:On May 28 2012 22:02 Quotidian wrote:On May 28 2012 17:23 farnham wrote:
day9 needs to apologize to the scene or leave the scene after this debacle with last shadow
he got in a player that has no (positive record) and let him into poolplay with players like parting or squirtle
last shadow lost every match he played and left the tournament in a bm manner because he didnt "feel well".
did mvp feel well with his injured wrist when he won gsl against squirtle last week? probably not.
day 9 got in a player that doesnt fit the criteria of "one of the best players in the world" and he needs to feel responsible for this . the last time an invite like this was done was probably lucifron in dreamhack valencia but that was to appeal to the local crowd. this time there is no real reason outside that lastshadow seems to be a friend of day 9 Day9 doesn't "need" to do anything. Acquire a grasp on reality, please. It's just a game and LS playing and failing isn't important enough to demand anybody's head on the block. Sheth, Ostojiy, Thorzain or Illusion didn't exactly have extremely impressive runs either (perfectly understandable results given the level of competition), but no one is getting upset about this - but that's because we've collectively decided to like Sheth or whatever. I had my fair share of schadenfreude when LS went 0-3 as well, because that's just human nature, but this LS/Day9 nepotism witchhunt that Incontrol is partially responsible for just shows how dumb and single minded this community is. Get over it. Being OK with Sheth, Ostojiy, Thorzain or Illusion might have more to do with the fact that they're actually known players who have at least had some success. It makes sense if you want to have foreigners (and assuming you don't get whoever you want) to go with them. LastShadow hasn't done anything impressive ever and hadn't even been seen for about a year. Vastly different. + Show Spoiler +OstojiyAchievements 2011 Date Event Result 2011-06-17 Toronto Quest for the Best Ostojiy 3 : 1 IefNaij 2011-06-12 US Go4SC2 Cup #64 Ostojiy 2 : 1 daisuki 2011-05-15 US Go4SC2 Cup #56 Ostojiy 3 : 0 LuckyFool 2011-04-30 US CraftCup #31 Ostojiy 1 : 3 SungpA LastShadowAchievements 2011 Date Event Result 2011-11-06 NESC2 League Season 2 LastShadow 2 : 3 Boyo 2011-07-02 NA ZOTAC Cup #8 LastShadow 3 : 0 HongUn 2011-05-21 NA ZOTAC Cup #2 LastShadow 3 : 2 rsvp 2011-04-17 NESC2 League Season 1 LastShadow 3 : 1 Ryan 2011-04-15 IG Cup #6 LastShadow 4 : 3 Warden 2010 Date Event Result 2010-08-28 MLG Raleigh LastShadow 0 : 2 Socke 2010-08-15 NVIDIA GosuCup US Qualifier #1 LastShadow 3 : 1 HayprO So how does Ostojiy get out of a 0-3 unremarked upon, while LS gets hounded, while idiots are demanding Day9's retirement because of LS' performance? You're forgetting that he actually has a team and is very active in team leagues as well... Plus he didn't go 0-4 in maps and leave the event. irrelevant
Sound rebuttal Sir. InControL would be proud of those debate skills.
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On May 29 2012 00:04 Dosey wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2012 23:57 Quotidian wrote:On May 28 2012 23:17 Dosey wrote:On May 28 2012 22:58 Quotidian wrote:On May 28 2012 22:32 FuzzyJAM wrote:On May 28 2012 22:02 Quotidian wrote:On May 28 2012 17:23 farnham wrote:
day9 needs to apologize to the scene or leave the scene after this debacle with last shadow
he got in a player that has no (positive record) and let him into poolplay with players like parting or squirtle
last shadow lost every match he played and left the tournament in a bm manner because he didnt "feel well".
did mvp feel well with his injured wrist when he won gsl against squirtle last week? probably not.
day 9 got in a player that doesnt fit the criteria of "one of the best players in the world" and he needs to feel responsible for this . the last time an invite like this was done was probably lucifron in dreamhack valencia but that was to appeal to the local crowd. this time there is no real reason outside that lastshadow seems to be a friend of day 9 Day9 doesn't "need" to do anything. Acquire a grasp on reality, please. It's just a game and LS playing and failing isn't important enough to demand anybody's head on the block. Sheth, Ostojiy, Thorzain or Illusion didn't exactly have extremely impressive runs either (perfectly understandable results given the level of competition), but no one is getting upset about this - but that's because we've collectively decided to like Sheth or whatever. I had my fair share of schadenfreude when LS went 0-3 as well, because that's just human nature, but this LS/Day9 nepotism witchhunt that Incontrol is partially responsible for just shows how dumb and single minded this community is. Get over it. Being OK with Sheth, Ostojiy, Thorzain or Illusion might have more to do with the fact that they're actually known players who have at least had some success. It makes sense if you want to have foreigners (and assuming you don't get whoever you want) to go with them. LastShadow hasn't done anything impressive ever and hadn't even been seen for about a year. Vastly different. + Show Spoiler +OstojiyAchievements 2011 Date Event Result 2011-06-17 Toronto Quest for the Best Ostojiy 3 : 1 IefNaij 2011-06-12 US Go4SC2 Cup #64 Ostojiy 2 : 1 daisuki 2011-05-15 US Go4SC2 Cup #56 Ostojiy 3 : 0 LuckyFool 2011-04-30 US CraftCup #31 Ostojiy 1 : 3 SungpA LastShadowAchievements 2011 Date Event Result 2011-11-06 NESC2 League Season 2 LastShadow 2 : 3 Boyo 2011-07-02 NA ZOTAC Cup #8 LastShadow 3 : 0 HongUn 2011-05-21 NA ZOTAC Cup #2 LastShadow 3 : 2 rsvp 2011-04-17 NESC2 League Season 1 LastShadow 3 : 1 Ryan 2011-04-15 IG Cup #6 LastShadow 4 : 3 Warden 2010 Date Event Result 2010-08-28 MLG Raleigh LastShadow 0 : 2 Socke 2010-08-15 NVIDIA GosuCup US Qualifier #1 LastShadow 3 : 1 HayprO So how does Ostojiy get out of a 0-3 unremarked upon, while LS gets hounded, while idiots are demanding Day9's retirement because of LS' performance? You're forgetting that he actually has a team and is very active in team leagues as well... Plus he didn't go 0-4 in maps and leave the event. irrelevant Sound rebuttal Sir. InControL would be proud of those debate skills.
Just because Ostojiy is "known" for being active in "team leagues" is irrelevant. Just because he's on a team is irrelevant. LastShadow is popular enough to have a TL fanclub and a series of pretty successful VLogs and replay packs. Don't get me wrong: I think he was a terrible invite, but he was no worse than any of the other lesser known invites. The onus is on you to show why being active in a team league is sufficient for being invited to a tournament over simply being active in the community as a strategist/coach.
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Seriously, let's call Red Bull and burn Day9 on an open stage. BUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU!!!
LastShadow, we are coming for you next.
/jesus
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On May 28 2012 22:58 Quotidian wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2012 22:32 FuzzyJAM wrote:On May 28 2012 22:02 Quotidian wrote:On May 28 2012 17:23 farnham wrote:
day9 needs to apologize to the scene or leave the scene after this debacle with last shadow
he got in a player that has no (positive record) and let him into poolplay with players like parting or squirtle
last shadow lost every match he played and left the tournament in a bm manner because he didnt "feel well".
did mvp feel well with his injured wrist when he won gsl against squirtle last week? probably not.
day 9 got in a player that doesnt fit the criteria of "one of the best players in the world" and he needs to feel responsible for this . the last time an invite like this was done was probably lucifron in dreamhack valencia but that was to appeal to the local crowd. this time there is no real reason outside that lastshadow seems to be a friend of day 9 Day9 doesn't "need" to do anything. Acquire a grasp on reality, please. It's just a game and LS playing and failing isn't important enough to demand anybody's head on the block. Sheth, Ostojiy, Thorzain or Illusion didn't exactly have extremely impressive runs either (perfectly understandable results given the level of competition), but no one is getting upset about this - but that's because we've collectively decided to like Sheth or whatever. I had my fair share of schadenfreude when LS went 0-3 as well, because that's just human nature, but this LS/Day9 nepotism witchhunt that Incontrol is partially responsible for just shows how dumb and single minded this community is. Get over it. Being OK with Sheth, Ostojiy, Thorzain or Illusion might have more to do with the fact that they're actually known players who have at least had some success. It makes sense if you want to have foreigners (and assuming you don't get whoever you want) to go with them. LastShadow hasn't done anything impressive ever and hadn't even been seen for about a year. Vastly different. OstojiyAchievements 2011 Date Event Result 2011-06-17 Toronto Quest for the Best Ostojiy 3 : 1 IefNaij 2011-06-12 US Go4SC2 Cup #64 Ostojiy 2 : 1 daisuki 2011-05-15 US Go4SC2 Cup #56 Ostojiy 3 : 0 LuckyFool 2011-04-30 US CraftCup #31 Ostojiy 1 : 3 SungpA LastShadowAchievements 2011 Date Event Result 2011-11-06 NESC2 League Season 2 LastShadow 2 : 3 Boyo 2011-07-02 NA ZOTAC Cup #8 LastShadow 3 : 0 HongUn 2011-05-21 NA ZOTAC Cup #2 LastShadow 3 : 2 rsvp 2011-04-17 NESC2 League Season 1 LastShadow 3 : 1 Ryan 2011-04-15 IG Cup #6 LastShadow 4 : 3 Warden 2010 Date Event Result 2010-08-28 MLG Raleigh LastShadow 0 : 2 Socke 2010-08-15 NVIDIA GosuCup US Qualifier #1 LastShadow 3 : 1 HayprO So how does Ostojiy get out of a 0-3 unremarked upon, while LS gets hounded, while idiots are demanding Day9's retirement because of LS' performance?
While I don't agree with people's criticisms of Day[9], and while I don't think ostijiy had a chance in hell of getting out of his group, it's worht pointing out he had a pretty decent run at MLG columbus. Most notably beat puma and golden.
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On May 29 2012 00:09 bbm wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2012 22:58 Quotidian wrote:On May 28 2012 22:32 FuzzyJAM wrote:On May 28 2012 22:02 Quotidian wrote:On May 28 2012 17:23 farnham wrote:
day9 needs to apologize to the scene or leave the scene after this debacle with last shadow
he got in a player that has no (positive record) and let him into poolplay with players like parting or squirtle
last shadow lost every match he played and left the tournament in a bm manner because he didnt "feel well".
did mvp feel well with his injured wrist when he won gsl against squirtle last week? probably not.
day 9 got in a player that doesnt fit the criteria of "one of the best players in the world" and he needs to feel responsible for this . the last time an invite like this was done was probably lucifron in dreamhack valencia but that was to appeal to the local crowd. this time there is no real reason outside that lastshadow seems to be a friend of day 9 Day9 doesn't "need" to do anything. Acquire a grasp on reality, please. It's just a game and LS playing and failing isn't important enough to demand anybody's head on the block. Sheth, Ostojiy, Thorzain or Illusion didn't exactly have extremely impressive runs either (perfectly understandable results given the level of competition), but no one is getting upset about this - but that's because we've collectively decided to like Sheth or whatever. I had my fair share of schadenfreude when LS went 0-3 as well, because that's just human nature, but this LS/Day9 nepotism witchhunt that Incontrol is partially responsible for just shows how dumb and single minded this community is. Get over it. Being OK with Sheth, Ostojiy, Thorzain or Illusion might have more to do with the fact that they're actually known players who have at least had some success. It makes sense if you want to have foreigners (and assuming you don't get whoever you want) to go with them. LastShadow hasn't done anything impressive ever and hadn't even been seen for about a year. Vastly different. OstojiyAchievements 2011 Date Event Result 2011-06-17 Toronto Quest for the Best Ostojiy 3 : 1 IefNaij 2011-06-12 US Go4SC2 Cup #64 Ostojiy 2 : 1 daisuki 2011-05-15 US Go4SC2 Cup #56 Ostojiy 3 : 0 LuckyFool 2011-04-30 US CraftCup #31 Ostojiy 1 : 3 SungpA LastShadowAchievements 2011 Date Event Result 2011-11-06 NESC2 League Season 2 LastShadow 2 : 3 Boyo 2011-07-02 NA ZOTAC Cup #8 LastShadow 3 : 0 HongUn 2011-05-21 NA ZOTAC Cup #2 LastShadow 3 : 2 rsvp 2011-04-17 NESC2 League Season 1 LastShadow 3 : 1 Ryan 2011-04-15 IG Cup #6 LastShadow 4 : 3 Warden 2010 Date Event Result 2010-08-28 MLG Raleigh LastShadow 0 : 2 Socke 2010-08-15 NVIDIA GosuCup US Qualifier #1 LastShadow 3 : 1 HayprO So how does Ostojiy get out of a 0-3 unremarked upon, while LS gets hounded, while idiots are demanding Day9's retirement because of LS' performance? While I don't agree with people's criticisms of Day[9], and while I don't think ostijiy had a chance in hell of getting out of his group, it's worht pointing out he had a pretty decent run at MLG columbus. Most notably beat puma and golden.
Didn't LS come 4th at one of the first MLGs? Yeah, it's a long time ago, but I don't think he competed in anything else since then, so no one could really say for sure if his skill had deteriorated.
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How dare Day[9] produce thousands of hours of entertainment and educational content and then make one mistake? He shall be brought before the court of eSports and he shall be judged by his clear superiors, people who have done nothing in eSports other than sit back and enjoy the content he has been providing to them for free for years, and thus clearly stand on a moral highground in the situation.
;_;
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If people spent 1/2 as much time playing the game as they spent bitching about pointless things on team liquid they might actually be as good as this player they are saying is terrible.
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On May 29 2012 00:11 marttorn wrote:
How dare Day[9] produce thousands of hours of entertainment and educational content and then make one mistake? He shall be brought before the court of eSports and he shall be judged by his clear superiors, people who have done nothing in eSports other than sit back and enjoy the content he has been providing to them for free for years, and thus clearly stand on a moral highground in the situation.
;_;
He gets it.
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On May 29 2012 00:04 Dosey wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2012 23:57 Quotidian wrote:On May 28 2012 23:17 Dosey wrote:On May 28 2012 22:58 Quotidian wrote:On May 28 2012 22:32 FuzzyJAM wrote:On May 28 2012 22:02 Quotidian wrote:On May 28 2012 17:23 farnham wrote:
day9 needs to apologize to the scene or leave the scene after this debacle with last shadow
he got in a player that has no (positive record) and let him into poolplay with players like parting or squirtle
last shadow lost every match he played and left the tournament in a bm manner because he didnt "feel well".
did mvp feel well with his injured wrist when he won gsl against squirtle last week? probably not.
day 9 got in a player that doesnt fit the criteria of "one of the best players in the world" and he needs to feel responsible for this . the last time an invite like this was done was probably lucifron in dreamhack valencia but that was to appeal to the local crowd. this time there is no real reason outside that lastshadow seems to be a friend of day 9 Day9 doesn't "need" to do anything. Acquire a grasp on reality, please. It's just a game and LS playing and failing isn't important enough to demand anybody's head on the block. Sheth, Ostojiy, Thorzain or Illusion didn't exactly have extremely impressive runs either (perfectly understandable results given the level of competition), but no one is getting upset about this - but that's because we've collectively decided to like Sheth or whatever. I had my fair share of schadenfreude when LS went 0-3 as well, because that's just human nature, but this LS/Day9 nepotism witchhunt that Incontrol is partially responsible for just shows how dumb and single minded this community is. Get over it. Being OK with Sheth, Ostojiy, Thorzain or Illusion might have more to do with the fact that they're actually known players who have at least had some success. It makes sense if you want to have foreigners (and assuming you don't get whoever you want) to go with them. LastShadow hasn't done anything impressive ever and hadn't even been seen for about a year. Vastly different. + Show Spoiler +OstojiyAchievements 2011 Date Event Result 2011-06-17 Toronto Quest for the Best Ostojiy 3 : 1 IefNaij 2011-06-12 US Go4SC2 Cup #64 Ostojiy 2 : 1 daisuki 2011-05-15 US Go4SC2 Cup #56 Ostojiy 3 : 0 LuckyFool 2011-04-30 US CraftCup #31 Ostojiy 1 : 3 SungpA LastShadowAchievements 2011 Date Event Result 2011-11-06 NESC2 League Season 2 LastShadow 2 : 3 Boyo 2011-07-02 NA ZOTAC Cup #8 LastShadow 3 : 0 HongUn 2011-05-21 NA ZOTAC Cup #2 LastShadow 3 : 2 rsvp 2011-04-17 NESC2 League Season 1 LastShadow 3 : 1 Ryan 2011-04-15 IG Cup #6 LastShadow 4 : 3 Warden 2010 Date Event Result 2010-08-28 MLG Raleigh LastShadow 0 : 2 Socke 2010-08-15 NVIDIA GosuCup US Qualifier #1 LastShadow 3 : 1 HayprO So how does Ostojiy get out of a 0-3 unremarked upon, while LS gets hounded, while idiots are demanding Day9's retirement because of LS' performance? You're forgetting that he actually has a team and is very active in team leagues as well... Plus he didn't go 0-4 in maps and leave the event. irrelevant Sound rebuttal Sir. InControL would be proud of those debate skills.
There's nothing to rebutt, because what you posted was - as I said - irrelevant. The post beneath yours explains why
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What's the problem with the lastshadow thing? Sure, he was just invited based on potential to upset and to fulfill the american quota (it's probably pretty hard to find four NA players that could compete right now), so what? It was still an amazing tournament, and once to the Ro16 another non-Korean would have been eliminated anyways in that group.
TL;DR: Calm down and be greatful you got yet another great tourney 
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Ostojiy has done well in teamleagues afaik, and also i don't think he is as BM as LS so he is not as controversial.
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