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NoNy"the gift"2012 :D
I love the show, its spontanous touch - changing guest stars and locations
casters, pros, "community guys"
(who is which by percent - I will leave that to the bronzebrainers)
it breathes pure e-sports
It(the format in general) has the potential to be huge one day
- kind of a traveling livereport-talkshow thing
Edit:
things you might consider:
-having kind of a free correspondence clerk @ every major event
(every one hates it when ss happens like "did anyone see the xy games on Lan xy? No? -sad faces)
-a organized newsflash of hot topics might be better than randomly spread in knowledge bombs
just my 2cents
<3 all of you guys - tyvm
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Can you upload the latest state of the game, the one you guys did at MLG?
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On April 01 2012 09:54 Paincarnate wrote:
Can you upload the latest state of the game, the one you guys did at MLG?
They didn't do one
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On March 31 2012 08:01 killerdog wrote:
Incontrol canceled his open bracket spot at ipl 4 to do this show at PAX. A starcraft 2 progamer canceling tournaments to do non-essential tasks. Imagin if Idra canceled Ipl to do inside the game at PAx, there would be community outrage.. We might as well stop calling Incontrol a sc2 pro-gamer. He is no longer that, Hes a PR representive for EG, Nothing more.Nothing less.
- Incontrol is sponsored by kingston, and at every pax event at least one eg player, often incontrol, has been at the kingston booth. It's obviously part of their contract. Now which is the better decision, get to play in an open bracket full of code s koreans and most likely lose quite early, with maby 2-3 games streamed if you lucky, or go to pax and work with fans and sponsors, + host a talk show. Which one gives incontrol the best pr/money...
Players are in no way obligated to play in every tournament if they have some other thing they could do where they make more money/get more pr, especially for a community figure like incontrol, so going to pax is not only best for him, as he gets more attention, btu best for eg, as they keep sponsorship with kingston + get more "eg" air time from incontrol.
(also artosis is being sponsored by kingston in the conteset which was advertised on tl so its not like he flew all the way to america just to do a state of the game, he's also doing fan related things)
day9- can be summed up with artosis, same shit.
Why should he be obligated to fly out to a tournament just to do a 1-2 hour show for a company he has nothing to do with? Whats in it for him?
JP -works for mlg , would never in a million years do a SOTG at ipl4 and expect to keep his job.
same as day9, Why should he be obligated to fly out to an event which he has no realtion to, carry out a 1-2 our long show for their benefit, which they will probably gain money from, just because if he does it at pax instead, mlg looks like an evil mastermind?
At the end of the day, would you rather there wasn't a state of the game at all then at pax? surely the community is best when there are events all over the place competing, they did a sotg at pax last time, so why not again?
That's the whole problem with SC2 journalism.
There is not 1 neutral Sc2 journalist out there that is well known.
In the current state we only have lemmings running in a Berlusconi'esque system.
Pretty much all of the figures in such formats are trapped in this Berlusconi-system. They profit from it, so why change it?
Jp and Wheat the most well know hosts for such "Journalistic" formats are paid by MLG. They get travel paid, casts paid, ... No way in hell they are objective. Even if they try to, its just not possible.
Artosis and day9 is pretty much the same situation. They profit from tournament organizers that hire them. No way in hell they talk bad about such tournaments.
INcontrol sees his future in esports. He says it all the time, and he bahaves like it. He would rather insult his viewers, than a tournament organizer.
Only ones left are IdrA and Nony. Since Nony never watches any torunaments or anythign else, hes out.. 
IdrA is nice. He sometimes "overreacts" but at least he is honest.
I still like those shows, 90% of what they do is awesome, but those 10% of "non-objectivity" just sucks, and you should work on it.
I remember when they did talk about IEM Sao Paulo, it was JP say that those "winning ceremonies" at IEM suck etc etc etc etc. Then at Winter Arena, with the most awekwards finals ever, and no winning ceremony at all.. this wasnt even a big concern.
If you guys had the same critizism for every event that you have for IEM events, the show would be 99% awesome. unfortunately that not possible when you get paid by those other events
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I know this might be a few pages old but its where I left off.....
You guys should do a show when you want to and when most of you are available, and also siked for it which is just as important. Thats it, you don't owe them your lives in some unspoken contract between Starcraft Ballers and their fans.
The only thing I was saying is that something like SOTG should never try to monetize unless it became something insanely elaborate and huge. You guys playing each other each week.... doing Red Bull Lan challenges with each other. We could watch as Day9 learns a build from Tyler, or Geoff goes through the intricacies of early game PvZ with any random guest lets say Stephano. This kind of thing would be worth some sort of subscription undoubtedly. But if its just a talk show, the best there is at that, then I love what you're doing and how you're doing it. And a forced show is just as bad as no show at all.
Really is something that you guys care a great deal about SOTG its not like its just some... blahh yeaaa just some show I do... you come in here and read our posts, having to sift thru the landmine of ignorance in any thread can be dangerous but you guys just cannonball in and talk to us anyway. I appreciate that.
Hopefully once the schedules simmer down for everyone a bit we'll start to see our favorite show (after GameOfThrones of course ;P) come back to what we all love and remember from last year. Have fun at PAX fella's, keep it easy!
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On April 01 2012 10:32 krisss wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2012 08:01 killerdog wrote:
Incontrol canceled his open bracket spot at ipl 4 to do this show at PAX. A starcraft 2 progamer canceling tournaments to do non-essential tasks. Imagin if Idra canceled Ipl to do inside the game at PAx, there would be community outrage.. We might as well stop calling Incontrol a sc2 pro-gamer. He is no longer that, Hes a PR representive for EG, Nothing more.Nothing less.
- Incontrol is sponsored by kingston, and at every pax event at least one eg player, often incontrol, has been at the kingston booth. It's obviously part of their contract. Now which is the better decision, get to play in an open bracket full of code s koreans and most likely lose quite early, with maby 2-3 games streamed if you lucky, or go to pax and work with fans and sponsors, + host a talk show. Which one gives incontrol the best pr/money...
Players are in no way obligated to play in every tournament if they have some other thing they could do where they make more money/get more pr, especially for a community figure like incontrol, so going to pax is not only best for him, as he gets more attention, btu best for eg, as they keep sponsorship with kingston + get more "eg" air time from incontrol.
(also artosis is being sponsored by kingston in the conteset which was advertised on tl so its not like he flew all the way to america just to do a state of the game, he's also doing fan related things)
day9- can be summed up with artosis, same shit.
Why should he be obligated to fly out to a tournament just to do a 1-2 hour show for a company he has nothing to do with? Whats in it for him?
JP -works for mlg , would never in a million years do a SOTG at ipl4 and expect to keep his job.
same as day9, Why should he be obligated to fly out to an event which he has no realtion to, carry out a 1-2 our long show for their benefit, which they will probably gain money from, just because if he does it at pax instead, mlg looks like an evil mastermind?
At the end of the day, would you rather there wasn't a state of the game at all then at pax? surely the community is best when there are events all over the place competing, they did a sotg at pax last time, so why not again? That's the whole problem with SC2 journalism. There is not 1 neutral Sc2 journalist out there that is well known. In the current state we only have lemmings running in a Berlusconi'esque system. Pretty much all of the figures in such formats are trapped in this Berlusconi-system. They profit from it, so why change it? Jp and Wheat the most well know hosts for such "Journalistic" formats are paid by MLG. They get travel paid, casts paid, ... No way in hell they are objective. Even if they try to, its just not possible. Artosis and day9 is pretty much the same situation. They profit from tournament organizers that hire them. No way in hell they talk bad about such tournaments. INcontrol sees his future in esports. He says it all the time, and he bahaves like it. He would rather insult his viewers, than a tournament organizer. Only ones left are IdrA and Nony. Since Nony never watches any torunaments or anythign else, hes out.. IdrA is nice. He sometimes "overreacts" but at least he is honest. I still like those shows, 90% of what they do is awesome, but those 10% of "non-objectivity" just sucks, and you should work on it. I remember when they did talk about IEM Sao Paulo, it was JP say that those "winning ceremonies" at IEM suck etc etc etc etc. Then at Winter Arena, with the most awekwards finals ever, and no winning ceremony at all.. this wasnt even a big concern. If you guys had the same critizism for every event that you have for IEM events, the show would be 99% awesome. unfortunately that not possible when you get paid by those other events
Wow you just summed up all the feelings I have on the current state of SC2 journalism. Well written. The SC2 community would do well to read this and establish some sort of neutral party.
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On April 01 2012 10:32 krisss wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2012 08:01 killerdog wrote:
Incontrol canceled his open bracket spot at ipl 4 to do this show at PAX. A starcraft 2 progamer canceling tournaments to do non-essential tasks. Imagin if Idra canceled Ipl to do inside the game at PAx, there would be community outrage.. We might as well stop calling Incontrol a sc2 pro-gamer. He is no longer that, Hes a PR representive for EG, Nothing more.Nothing less.
- Incontrol is sponsored by kingston, and at every pax event at least one eg player, often incontrol, has been at the kingston booth. It's obviously part of their contract. Now which is the better decision, get to play in an open bracket full of code s koreans and most likely lose quite early, with maby 2-3 games streamed if you lucky, or go to pax and work with fans and sponsors, + host a talk show. Which one gives incontrol the best pr/money...
Players are in no way obligated to play in every tournament if they have some other thing they could do where they make more money/get more pr, especially for a community figure like incontrol, so going to pax is not only best for him, as he gets more attention, btu best for eg, as they keep sponsorship with kingston + get more "eg" air time from incontrol.
(also artosis is being sponsored by kingston in the conteset which was advertised on tl so its not like he flew all the way to america just to do a state of the game, he's also doing fan related things)
day9- can be summed up with artosis, same shit.
Why should he be obligated to fly out to a tournament just to do a 1-2 hour show for a company he has nothing to do with? Whats in it for him?
JP -works for mlg , would never in a million years do a SOTG at ipl4 and expect to keep his job.
same as day9, Why should he be obligated to fly out to an event which he has no realtion to, carry out a 1-2 our long show for their benefit, which they will probably gain money from, just because if he does it at pax instead, mlg looks like an evil mastermind?
At the end of the day, would you rather there wasn't a state of the game at all then at pax? surely the community is best when there are events all over the place competing, they did a sotg at pax last time, so why not again? That's the whole problem with SC2 journalism. There is not 1 neutral Sc2 journalist out there that is well known. In the current state we only have lemmings running in a Berlusconi'esque system. Pretty much all of the figures in such formats are trapped in this Berlusconi-system. They profit from it, so why change it? Jp and Wheat the most well know hosts for such "Journalistic" formats are paid by MLG. They get travel paid, casts paid, ... No way in hell they are objective. Even if they try to, its just not possible. Artosis and day9 is pretty much the same situation. They profit from tournament organizers that hire them. No way in hell they talk bad about such tournaments. INcontrol sees his future in esports. He says it all the time, and he bahaves like it. He would rather insult his viewers, than a tournament organizer. Only ones left are IdrA and Nony. Since Nony never watches any torunaments or anythign else, hes out.. IdrA is nice. He sometimes "overreacts" but at least he is honest. I still like those shows, 90% of what they do is awesome, but those 10% of "non-objectivity" just sucks, and you should work on it. I remember when they did talk about IEM Sao Paulo, it was JP say that those "winning ceremonies" at IEM suck etc etc etc etc. Then at Winter Arena, with the most awekwards finals ever, and no winning ceremony at all.. this wasnt even a big concern. If you guys had the same critizism for every event that you have for IEM events, the show would be 99% awesome. unfortunately that not possible when you get paid by those other events
That's nice and all but objectivity in journalism is a myth. I think what we have in eSports is much better than what we have in say the New York Times or even individual reporters of Al Jazeera. Unless you spend your time looking at the people that advertise for the those newspapers, looking at their owners personal poltiics, at the politics of individual reports, you are never going to know which bias your source has.
eSports on the other hand has its main players wearing their influence on their sleeve. JP works for MLG. If he has something biased to say about MLG, everyone knows why he is biased. It is completely clear. Artosis works for GSL, iNcontroL is on EG, Nony is on TeamLiquid, and Day9 works with all of these people. Of course they aren't going to shit on their employers, but seeing as their employers are their main sources of income (except for Day9 of course who is funded by Sesame Street), their biases are also extremely obvious.
This is literally the best practical situation we could be in. The best theoretical situation would be to have completely unbiased journalism. But since that doesn't exist in the mainstream news (and never really has), why would you expect it to in eSports?
EDIT: In regards to Day9, this is also obvious because you never see him comment on Cookie Monster saying that "cookies are a sometimes food". If Day9 wasn't biased towards his muppet employers he would be all over that, but all we get from him is silence. But that's okay because I don't expect Day9 to burn his bridges like that.
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On March 31 2012 06:36 HorsemasterK wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On March 31 2012 05:18 johnny123 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2012 05:08 MonkSEA wrote:On March 31 2012 04:51 johnny123 wrote:
i personally would have prefered to see SOTG at ipl 4 instead of Pax, but whatever, Doing it at Pax will do nothing for the scene of starcraft 2 other than some people saying " OH, I SEE". They are still going to play whatever game interests them the most. I fail to see how hosting a SOTG at this event will grow anything.
It almost seems to me that jp/arotosis/incontrol/wheat/day9 etc are doing this in an attempt to steer away some spotlight at what IGN is doing for the sc2 scene.
How much cooler would this have been if SOTG was done at IPL4 in vegas? But obviously it wont since Jp works for mlg and ign is a direct competitor.
Anyway, i said my small rant. In my view its a stupid move. It would have been alot funner to see incontrol interview these guys at ipl4, especially considering that it will be the greatest sc2 tournament to date, it has what over 1/2 of code S, entire gstl teams, something along the line of 40+ koreans. And these guys go PAX, which just so happens they are the big MLG representive guys ( outside of incontrol) . I can smell this rotten fish from miles away. Are you paranoid much? Incontrol isn't going to IPL, his going to PAX as per requested from EG. Removing Incontrol from SOTG is like removing TL from the SC2 Scene. Guess where Artosis is going to be? Not at IPL either! I don't know about the other members of the cast, but I can only presume Day9 won't be there unless his spectating. You gotta' realize sponsor requests come first rather then doing an 'off-side' production like SOTG. Even if it were JP saying no, I can fully understand. I'd rather him have a job at MLG then lose his job because he hosted a SOTG at IPL. dude as you can see, i already know all the guys that are going to pax instead , you dont have to tell me. As i said, its a dick move and i got a few reasons why. Incontrol canceled his open bracket spot at ipl 4 to do this show at PAX. A starcraft 2 progamer canceling tournaments to do non-essential tasks. Imagin if Idra canceled Ipl to do inside the game at PAx, there would be community outrage.. We might as well stop calling Incontrol a sc2 pro-gamer. He is no longer that, Hes a PR representive for EG, Nothing more.Nothing less. Now lets go onto Artosis and his reasoning for going to pax I've watched almost every gsl game, and anytime artosis talkes about other games, he discredits them and says Starcraft 2 and starcraft 1 are the greatest games in the world. Yet hes going a multigame convension , inwhich he does not give 2 shits about the other games because Starcraft is his love( i know he also likes Street Fighter, thats about it) . Its clear to me that sundance is flying him out to PAX to do a SOTG at pax. As i know sundance is going as well. So here you have the greatest sc2 commentator, not commentating on the biggest event sc2 will ever see. Im sure ign approached tastetosis to commentate their event, and he refused because he has sided with MLG. day9- can be summed up with artosis, same shit. Wheat - hes not on sotg , so its no bigge, he was always a "multi-game" guy so this is to be expected. JP -works for mlg , would never in a million years do a SOTG at ipl4 and expect to keep his job. Shit like this pisses me off SOTG was much better when it was not affiliated to anything. Now its just a bunch of crap with biased opinions. This post is so full of baseless assertions, wild speculation and butthurtness. I would like to nominate this for 'General Chat Post of the Year.'
I agree to a certain point, the part where he talks about Incontrol is true. Stop trying to deny it.
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On April 02 2012 06:40 xUnSeEnx wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2012 06:36 HorsemasterK wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On March 31 2012 05:18 johnny123 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2012 05:08 MonkSEA wrote:On March 31 2012 04:51 johnny123 wrote:
i personally would have prefered to see SOTG at ipl 4 instead of Pax, but whatever, Doing it at Pax will do nothing for the scene of starcraft 2 other than some people saying " OH, I SEE". They are still going to play whatever game interests them the most. I fail to see how hosting a SOTG at this event will grow anything.
It almost seems to me that jp/arotosis/incontrol/wheat/day9 etc are doing this in an attempt to steer away some spotlight at what IGN is doing for the sc2 scene.
How much cooler would this have been if SOTG was done at IPL4 in vegas? But obviously it wont since Jp works for mlg and ign is a direct competitor.
Anyway, i said my small rant. In my view its a stupid move. It would have been alot funner to see incontrol interview these guys at ipl4, especially considering that it will be the greatest sc2 tournament to date, it has what over 1/2 of code S, entire gstl teams, something along the line of 40+ koreans. And these guys go PAX, which just so happens they are the big MLG representive guys ( outside of incontrol) . I can smell this rotten fish from miles away. Are you paranoid much? Incontrol isn't going to IPL, his going to PAX as per requested from EG. Removing Incontrol from SOTG is like removing TL from the SC2 Scene. Guess where Artosis is going to be? Not at IPL either! I don't know about the other members of the cast, but I can only presume Day9 won't be there unless his spectating. You gotta' realize sponsor requests come first rather then doing an 'off-side' production like SOTG. Even if it were JP saying no, I can fully understand. I'd rather him have a job at MLG then lose his job because he hosted a SOTG at IPL. dude as you can see, i already know all the guys that are going to pax instead , you dont have to tell me. As i said, its a dick move and i got a few reasons why. Incontrol canceled his open bracket spot at ipl 4 to do this show at PAX. A starcraft 2 progamer canceling tournaments to do non-essential tasks. Imagin if Idra canceled Ipl to do inside the game at PAx, there would be community outrage.. We might as well stop calling Incontrol a sc2 pro-gamer. He is no longer that, Hes a PR representive for EG, Nothing more.Nothing less. Now lets go onto Artosis and his reasoning for going to pax I've watched almost every gsl game, and anytime artosis talkes about other games, he discredits them and says Starcraft 2 and starcraft 1 are the greatest games in the world. Yet hes going a multigame convension , inwhich he does not give 2 shits about the other games because Starcraft is his love( i know he also likes Street Fighter, thats about it) . Its clear to me that sundance is flying him out to PAX to do a SOTG at pax. As i know sundance is going as well. So here you have the greatest sc2 commentator, not commentating on the biggest event sc2 will ever see. Im sure ign approached tastetosis to commentate their event, and he refused because he has sided with MLG. day9- can be summed up with artosis, same shit. Wheat - hes not on sotg , so its no bigge, he was always a "multi-game" guy so this is to be expected. JP -works for mlg , would never in a million years do a SOTG at ipl4 and expect to keep his job. Shit like this pisses me off SOTG was much better when it was not affiliated to anything. Now its just a bunch of crap with biased opinions. This post is so full of baseless assertions, wild speculation and butthurtness. I would like to nominate this for 'General Chat Post of the Year.' I agree to a certain point, the part where he talks about Incontrol is true. Stop trying to deny it.
Incontrol is appearing at the Kingston booth to promote Kingston products, because Kingston is their sponsor. He did the same thing last year at Pax East. I know cause I saw him there playing people. Artosis will also be there, at the Kingston booth casting some of the games and meeting fans. I am willing to bet the Kingston paid for this flight out there. Do you think Kingston said "We need an EG player at our booth at Pax East?"
Peoples claims that players are for or against some leagues and will not be involved with other(with the exception of JP, who works for MLG) are just creating drama where there is none. State of the Game is at Pax because they want a broader audience and are trying to pull in people who do not normally was Esports. Also, if you want an independent voice in SC2, Brad Shoemaker from Giant Bomb will be on SotG and he isn't connected to any league. He just loves SC2.
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iNcontroL
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On April 01 2012 10:32 krisss wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2012 08:01 killerdog wrote:
Incontrol canceled his open bracket spot at ipl 4 to do this show at PAX. A starcraft 2 progamer canceling tournaments to do non-essential tasks. Imagin if Idra canceled Ipl to do inside the game at PAx, there would be community outrage.. We might as well stop calling Incontrol a sc2 pro-gamer. He is no longer that, Hes a PR representive for EG, Nothing more.Nothing less.
- Incontrol is sponsored by kingston, and at every pax event at least one eg player, often incontrol, has been at the kingston booth. It's obviously part of their contract. Now which is the better decision, get to play in an open bracket full of code s koreans and most likely lose quite early, with maby 2-3 games streamed if you lucky, or go to pax and work with fans and sponsors, + host a talk show. Which one gives incontrol the best pr/money...
Players are in no way obligated to play in every tournament if they have some other thing they could do where they make more money/get more pr, especially for a community figure like incontrol, so going to pax is not only best for him, as he gets more attention, btu best for eg, as they keep sponsorship with kingston + get more "eg" air time from incontrol.
(also artosis is being sponsored by kingston in the conteset which was advertised on tl so its not like he flew all the way to america just to do a state of the game, he's also doing fan related things)
day9- can be summed up with artosis, same shit.
Why should he be obligated to fly out to a tournament just to do a 1-2 hour show for a company he has nothing to do with? Whats in it for him?
JP -works for mlg , would never in a million years do a SOTG at ipl4 and expect to keep his job.
same as day9, Why should he be obligated to fly out to an event which he has no realtion to, carry out a 1-2 our long show for their benefit, which they will probably gain money from, just because if he does it at pax instead, mlg looks like an evil mastermind?
At the end of the day, would you rather there wasn't a state of the game at all then at pax? surely the community is best when there are events all over the place competing, they did a sotg at pax last time, so why not again? That's the whole problem with SC2 journalism. There is not 1 neutral Sc2 journalist out there that is well known. In the current state we only have lemmings running in a Berlusconi'esque system. Pretty much all of the figures in such formats are trapped in this Berlusconi-system. They profit from it, so why change it? Jp and Wheat the most well know hosts for such "Journalistic" formats are paid by MLG. They get travel paid, casts paid, ... No way in hell they are objective. Even if they try to, its just not possible. Artosis and day9 is pretty much the same situation. They profit from tournament organizers that hire them. No way in hell they talk bad about such tournaments. INcontrol sees his future in esports. He says it all the time, and he bahaves like it. He would rather insult his viewers, than a tournament organizer. Only ones left are IdrA and Nony. Since Nony never watches any torunaments or anythign else, hes out.. IdrA is nice. He sometimes "overreacts" but at least he is honest. I still like those shows, 90% of what they do is awesome, but those 10% of "non-objectivity" just sucks, and you should work on it. I remember when they did talk about IEM Sao Paulo, it was JP say that those "winning ceremonies" at IEM suck etc etc etc etc. Then at Winter Arena, with the most awekwards finals ever, and no winning ceremony at all.. this wasnt even a big concern. If you guys had the same critizism for every event that you have for IEM events, the show would be 99% awesome. unfortunately that not possible when you get paid by those other events
i get paid for every event i place in and every event i cast for, those comments were made about iem cuz iem is the event that had those problems. if mlg put us up in a shit hotel or ipl didnt have food for players at their event youd hear us bitching about it just as loud. but they dont.
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iNcontroL
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I think that is idra posting on my account at sirscoots house btw >_<
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On April 02 2012 07:07 iNcontroL wrote:
I think that is idra posting on my account at sirscoots house btw >_<
someone from eg house claiming that someone else is using their account to say things....
now where have I heard this before.......
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iNcontroL
USA29055 Posts
actually as I posted in my incredibly short sentence he is at sirscoot's house.
You should try and read more carefully.
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On March 31 2012 08:01 killerdog wrote:
Incontrol canceled his open bracket spot at ipl 4 to do this show at PAX. A starcraft 2 progamer canceling tournaments to do non-essential tasks. Imagin if Idra canceled Ipl to do inside the game at PAx, there would be community outrage.. We might as well stop calling Incontrol a sc2 pro-gamer. He is no longer that, Hes a PR representive for EG, Nothing more.Nothing less.
- Incontrol is sponsored by kingston, and at every pax event at least one eg player, often incontrol, has been at the kingston booth. It's obviously part of their contract. Now which is the better decision, get to play in an open bracket full of code s koreans and most likely lose quite early, with maby 2-3 games streamed if you lucky, or go to pax and work with fans and sponsors, + host a talk show. Which one gives incontrol the best pr/money...
Players are in no way obligated to play in every tournament if they have some other thing they could do where they make more money/get more pr, especially for a community figure like incontrol, so going to pax is not only best for him, as he gets more attention, btu best for eg, as they keep sponsorship with kingston + get more "eg" air time from incontrol.
(also artosis is being sponsored by kingston in the conteset which was advertised on tl so its not like he flew all the way to america just to do a state of the game, he's also doing fan related things)
day9- can be summed up with artosis, same shit.
Why should he be obligated to fly out to a tournament just to do a 1-2 hour show for a company he has nothing to do with? Whats in it for him?
JP -works for mlg , would never in a million years do a SOTG at ipl4 and expect to keep his job.
same as day9, Why should he be obligated to fly out to an event which he has no realtion to, carry out a 1-2 our long show for their benefit, which they will probably gain money from, just because if he does it at pax instead, mlg looks like an evil mastermind?
At the end of the day, would you rather there wasn't a state of the game at all then at pax? surely the community is best when there are events all over the place competing, they did a sotg at pax last time, so why not again?
.... You man seriously put me on my @$$ !
U god ?
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On April 02 2012 08:45 iNcontroL wrote:
actually as I posted in my incredibly short sentence he is at sirscoot's house.
You should try and read more carefully.
Hrm...I think you're misreading AGIANTSMURF's short sentence. He didn't say "someone posting form eg house." He wrote "someone from eg house."
I'm guessing you're trolling? Or did you not read him carefully?
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I really wish the show you return to a weekly basis sc2 show with calls and all like ITG :p
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On April 02 2012 17:17 Aterons_toss wrote:
I really wish the show you return to a weekly basis sc2 show with calls and all like ITG :p
I really don't like it when they take calls. It has potential to be interesting, but more often than not is just awkward, or flat bad, or "maybe if i did drugs this person would be funny while he trolls the call singing father abraham".
I do like the format of making a reddit thread and letting people post questions and then taking the most upvoted ones; even that's sort of flawed though, because people have downvoting parties on eachother hoping their shitty question will go up.
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On April 03 2012 01:56 Angel_ wrote:Show nested quote +On April 02 2012 17:17 Aterons_toss wrote:
I really wish the show you return to a weekly basis sc2 show with calls and all like ITG :p I really don't like it when they take calls. It has potential to be interesting, but more often than not is just awkward, or flat bad, or "maybe if i did drugs this person would be funny while he trolls the call singing father abraham". I do like the format of making a reddit thread and letting people post questions and then taking the most upvoted ones; even that's sort of flawed though, because people have downvoting parties on eachother hoping their shitty question will go up.
Yeah I'm totally with you. I like fan questions through twitter or a thread, but call in questions drive me crazy. 60%-70% the questions are dumb or the person rambles to ask the question. I just can't take it. It's worst when you have to stare at the hosts listening to the caller too like on CSPAN.
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Yeah, calls are one of the worst uses of the time you have for the show. Unless you have someone notable already lined up to call in and you know he'll say something interesting, it's completely worthless to endure ten shitty calls and hope to maybe have one guy in three shows who asks a semi-decent question.
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