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KicKDoG
Profile Joined December 2003
Sweden765 Posts
January 20 2012 14:16 GMT
#40261
State of the game last night was very good guys! keep it up! I liked the discussion about marketing.
http://www.twitter.com/KicKDoG_LoL baylife plox?
Jehct
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
New Zealand9115 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-20 14:34:13
January 20 2012 14:33 GMT
#40262
I definitely agree with the anti-call-in sentiment. The risk/reward is way off. Allow random figures in the community to go on and ask questions/contribute (like on EP60) if you want but the awkward calls aren't worth it.
"You seem to think about this game a lot"
Agnosthar
Profile Joined August 2010
631 Posts
January 20 2012 14:42 GMT
#40263
Sometimes call ins are good, other times they totally suck.

I think taking twitter or e-mail questions is a far superior way of getting some community questions asked and answered on air. That way JP can filter out the idiotic questions and we all avoid hearing some of these awkward callers.
Everhate
Profile Joined September 2010
United States640 Posts
January 20 2012 16:10 GMT
#40264
On January 20 2012 22:22 Makenshi wrote:
how a silver guy 'felt' that terran matchups were more explored and giving his theory on it


I probably did a poor job of forming the question, the point was that if you watch an arbitrary number of TvX games, and jump to the midgame, you'll see the same 2-3 sets of buildings, expansions, and army mixes in the overwhelming majority of those games, even from a variety of different players, on both sides.

By comparison, if you pick a matchup not involving terran (say, ZvP), and jump to the midgame, there will be a greater degree of variation in strategies being executed by both sides...different unit mixes, different number of expansions, different approaches or timings to win the game, etc. Some of it may be maps, some may just be player styles, but that was the concept I was attempting to express with the T matchups being more 'explored'.

Maybe still the question is uninteresting to some, but I felt it worth asking to get the opinions of those who have a greater depth of knowledge than I do about the situation.

(And no, I'm not silver, not that it matters)
MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
January 20 2012 16:15 GMT
#40265
On January 21 2012 01:10 Everhate wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2012 22:22 Makenshi wrote:
how a silver guy 'felt' that terran matchups were more explored and giving his theory on it


I probably did a poor job of forming the question, the point was that if you watch an arbitrary number of TvX games, and jump to the midgame, you'll see the same 2-3 sets of buildings, expansions, and army mixes in the overwhelming majority of those games, even from a variety of different players, on both sides.

By comparison, if you pick a matchup not involving terran (say, ZvP), and jump to the midgame, there will be a greater degree of variation in strategies being executed by both sides...different unit mixes, different number of expansions, different approaches or timings to win the game, etc. Some of it may be maps, some may just be player styles, but that was the concept I was attempting to express with the T matchups being more 'explored'.

Maybe still the question is uninteresting to some, but I felt it worth asking to get the opinions of those who have a greater depth of knowledge than I do about the situation.

(And no, I'm not silver, not that it matters)

Its an idea Day[9] has done on his dailys, about "convergence". The idea that in any given opening, you'll get back to a point with the same production buildings as any other opener (assuming its not some all in). Your right, I pretty sure he did it with specific regard to Terran vs Zerg, but as you said, I don't think its possible with other races in other matchups, PvZ, PvT etc all have a million ways the midgame can go.
VERY FRAGILE, LIKE A BABY PANDA EGG
itmeJP
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1101 Posts
January 20 2012 17:06 GMT
#40266
Twitter.com/itmeJP -- Twitch.tv/itmeJP -- YouTube.com/itmeJP
kevinthemighty
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States134 Posts
January 20 2012 17:27 GMT
#40267
Thanks JP. Much love.
Ubikuuu!
Profile Joined May 2011
Italy285 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-20 17:41:04
January 20 2012 17:40 GMT
#40268
I am sorry,
couldn't understant which series Sean was referring to at the very start of the cast even relistening,
someone care to write them here please?
Sorry for semi-OT.
"…I guess you can't live very long without arousing hostility; you can't please everybody, because people want different things. Please one and you displease another."
corpuscle
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1967 Posts
January 20 2012 17:42 GMT
#40269
On January 21 2012 02:40 Ubikuuu! wrote:
I am sorry,
couldn't understant which series Sean was referring to at the very start of the cast even relistening,
someone care to write them here please?
Sorry for semi-OT.


Can you give a specific time? I might be able to help, but don't feel like skipping through it randomly just to find the part you're talking about.
From the void I am born into wave and particle
Ubikuuu!
Profile Joined May 2011
Italy285 Posts
January 20 2012 17:47 GMT
#40270
At 1:10. Thank you.
*something*files?
"…I guess you can't live very long without arousing hostility; you can't please everybody, because people want different things. Please one and you displease another."
corpuscle
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1967 Posts
January 20 2012 17:48 GMT
#40271
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dresden_files
From the void I am born into wave and particle
Ubikuuu!
Profile Joined May 2011
Italy285 Posts
January 20 2012 17:50 GMT
#40272
On January 21 2012 02:48 corpuscle wrote:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dresden_files


You are a gentlemen and a scholar,
I salute you.
"…I guess you can't live very long without arousing hostility; you can't please everybody, because people want different things. Please one and you displease another."
mark05
Profile Joined March 2009
Canada807 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-20 18:01:36
January 20 2012 17:58 GMT
#40273
Hello I watched the whole state of the game and it was really good, but I really didnt like the Destiny participation in SOTG, I felt like he was always disinterested in what was going on, ans when he was arguing (notably with incontrol on the grubby situation) he wasn't open to any other point of view and even didnt seem to listen to what other had to say petending he knows everything about marketing etc.

I do have some marketing studies of university level and most of what he said was asctually wrong but still wouldn't listen.----But I don't want to start a debate about that here, it is really about his attitude

Else I'm glad that SOTG is back and have a good year !

edit: i need the link to the nada "stunt race" day9 was watching!
yes, I'm MarkOhFive
kazansky
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany931 Posts
January 20 2012 18:01 GMT
#40274
The show was awesome, thanks for supplying my addiction again.

That said, I have to agree about the calling in. I figure that with the current viewerbase the question input is way too high to sort it out as only one person for JP, but I too liked the question part a lot more in the earlier stages when JP picked questions he sorted out before that were actually interesting, elaborate and not about "XvY what do you think about what I do here?" stuff.
I don't want to talk down any of the people calling in for their questions, but its really a lottery, sometimes not best worded (sometimes obviously because of the anxiety and nerves once they are live at the show), and as others already stated, state of the game has become more of a hub to discuss the scene itself rather than random problem of random players in random matches, and is also more interesting that way in my eyes.
"Mathematicians don't understand mathematics, they get used to it." - Prof. Kredler || "That was more one-sided that a mobius strip." - Tasteless
groms
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada1017 Posts
January 20 2012 18:06 GMT
#40275
Any update on mp3 for non-apple ppl?
I have a recurring dream that I'm running away from a terran player but the marauders keep slowing me down. - Artosis
corpuscle
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1967 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-20 18:27:13
January 20 2012 18:25 GMT
#40276
On January 21 2012 02:58 mark05 wrote:
Hello I watched the whole state of the game and it was really good, but I really didnt like the Destiny participation in SOTG, I felt like he was always disinterested in what was going on, ans when he was arguing (notably with incontrol on the grubby situation) he wasn't open to any other point of view and even didnt seem to listen to what other had to say petending he knows everything about marketing etc.

I do have some marketing studies of university level and most of what he said was asctually wrong but still wouldn't listen.----But I don't want to start a debate about that here, it is really about his attitude

Else I'm glad that SOTG is back and have a good year !

edit: i need the link to the nada "stunt race" day9 was watching!


I didn't like what Destiny was saying in the marketing discussion either, but the "disinterestedness" (surprised that's a word lol) was because he was playing in a tournament during the show, not because he didn't care. I have no idea why he was on the show for the whole time if he was gonna be busy for the vast majority and then only really be able to talk about one thing, since it would've made more sense to have someone else on and then have him call in, but maybe they couldn't get someone else or something.

The nada thing is here

edit: and I agree about the call-ins, it really doesn't seem to fit the feel of the show at all. Inside the Game is great for questions like that, since they have a panel with all three races and the show is built around low-level strategy discussion, but SotG not so much. JP should either do twitter/email questions like he used to or just not answer questions at all.
From the void I am born into wave and particle
Marcus420
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada1923 Posts
January 20 2012 18:27 GMT
#40277
On January 21 2012 03:06 groms wrote:
Any update on mp3 for non-apple ppl?

http://s3.majorleaguegaming.com.s3.amazonaws.com/files/sotg/SotGEP60.5.mp3
groms
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada1017 Posts
January 20 2012 18:57 GMT
#40278
On January 21 2012 03:27 Marcus420 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2012 03:06 groms wrote:
Any update on mp3 for non-apple ppl?

http://s3.majorleaguegaming.com.s3.amazonaws.com/files/sotg/SotGEP60.5.mp3

Thx :D saved my commute home
I have a recurring dream that I'm running away from a terran player but the marauders keep slowing me down. - Artosis
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
January 20 2012 19:12 GMT
#40279
I'm just starting to watch the last episode VOD, and I'm IN LOVE with that "indy" overlay. <3
.kv
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States2332 Posts
January 20 2012 19:56 GMT
#40280
Here's an image i made for sotg if you wish to use

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