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SpiZe
Canada3640 Posts
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Dreadwolf
Canada220 Posts
People who complain about this should really take 3 hours of their week * numbers of StoG episode and do something for some community before having the right to bitch about this model. I hope the new season will kick ass and i cant wait to watch it again. | ||
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kevinthemighty
United States134 Posts
On January 13 2012 07:22 turdburgler wrote: its sad when people take voluntary payment plans and try to peer pressure people into paying them. So because you wish not to discuss the merits of my statements, you misconstrue them as an attempt to "peer pressure" you? I'm not pressuring anyone to do anything. I was merely pointing out that laziness is no excuse if your intention really is to contribute in some monetary way. I also previously advocated some sort of payment form for the work these individuals do to put out the show on a weekly basis. That post is also not a form of me directly pressuring people to do something, but is simply a suggestion in response to JP, Tyler, and inControL's previous replies. I don't know why you take such offense to anything I said. If you feel guilty, the guilt is your own. But if you want to discuss something I specifically said, then I'd be more than happy to have the discussion. | ||
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Medrea
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darkscream
Canada2310 Posts
On January 13 2012 07:42 chisake wrote: Volunteer systems also include volunteers trying to help the program. When a door-to-door salesman shows up at your door trying to get you to buy things, what is your response? I think you'll see people reacting to such volunteerism similarly. | ||
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chisake
United States8 Posts
On January 13 2012 08:32 darkscream wrote: When a door-to-door salesman shows up at your door trying to get you to buy things, what is your response? I think you'll see people reacting to such volunteerism similarly. I get your point, but this is about something we all take joy in (or why are you here?). Not something like a vacuum. I do find door-to-door salesmen pretty annoying though. | ||
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nvs.
Canada3609 Posts
Good luck in the future guys. | ||
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darkscream
Canada2310 Posts
On January 13 2012 08:40 chisake wrote: I get your point, but this is about something we all take joy in (or why are you here?). Not something like a vacuum. I do find door-to-door salesmen pretty annoying though. Sure, but people aren't going to recognize that. To outsiders you're just an annoying 3rd party asking them for money, and offering nothing but relief from social pressure in return. You also risk convincing people not to pay. A better example, I guess would have been telemarketers/political phone calls. Even if a party you support calls you, you probably don't really want to hear it. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On January 13 2012 07:22 turdburgler wrote: its sad when people take voluntary payment plans and try to peer pressure people into paying them. Didn't you learn in school not to give into peer pressure? Seriously, this sort of attitude is terrible. How else if JP and the team supposed to take money in for the show unless they ask for it? I once worked with a girl who got made every time they sent out an email about donating cans and money to food shelters. She was insulted that they asked and tried to make her feel bad about not donating. I told her that she should feel bad about hating poor people who can't afford food. If you get bent out of shape about people asking for money for a free service, either A: stop listening, or B: suck it up. | ||
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turdburgler
England6749 Posts
On January 13 2012 08:25 kevinthemighty wrote: So because you wish not to discuss the merits of my statements, you misconstrue them as an attempt to "peer pressure" you? I'm not pressuring anyone to do anything. I was merely pointing out that laziness is no excuse if your intention really is to contribute in some monetary way. I also previously advocated some sort of payment form for the work these individuals do to put out the show on a weekly basis. That post is also not a form of me directly pressuring people to do something, but is simply a suggestion in response to JP, Tyler, and inControL's previous replies. I don't know why you take such offense to anything I said. If you feel guilty, the guilt is your own. But if you want to discuss something I specifically said, then I'd be more than happy to have the discussion. but your argument didnt have any merit. you are condemning people for laziness when thats not their problem, its sotg's problem. the burdon to convince people to pay up lays with the seller not the buyer. when we see what the bonus's are for paying people will decide if they can be bothered to pay, its then up to sotg as a business to decide how much to invest in enticing more people to pay, or people that do pay, to pay more. what your saying is, you should feel bad and support them anyway, thats not how it works. | ||
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Zzoram
Canada7115 Posts
Can JP please finally fix the time stamp in the first post? | ||
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bluehawky
United Kingdom183 Posts
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Count9
China10928 Posts
On January 13 2012 08:25 kevinthemighty wrote: So because you wish not to discuss the merits of my statements, you misconstrue them as an attempt to "peer pressure" you? I'm not pressuring anyone to do anything. I was merely pointing out that laziness is no excuse if your intention really is to contribute in some monetary way. I also previously advocated some sort of payment form for the work these individuals do to put out the show on a weekly basis. That post is also not a form of me directly pressuring people to do something, but is simply a suggestion in response to JP, Tyler, and inControL's previous replies. I don't know why you take such offense to anything I said. If you feel guilty, the guilt is your own. But if you want to discuss something I specifically said, then I'd be more than happy to have the discussion. You're missing the point. The goal of community members should be to get money into esports. As in, money from outside of esports (fans included) into it (e.g. getting sponsors from independent companies), not make money off fans. If everyone who watches got 1 person to watch the show as well and doubled stream numbers, the things that would tell sponsors, it'd be worth way more than 10 cents per show for 1 million shows and benefit the community far more. There are so many better things they could be doing. Homestory, GSL, so many things have happened, cannot wait for the show. | ||
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TBone-
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Zzoram
Canada7115 Posts
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Gofarman
Canada648 Posts
 Over there on the West coast I will miss most of it cause of work. | ||
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itmeJP
United States1101 Posts
http://dignitasnos.podomatic.com/entry/2012-01-12T16_16_28-08_00 | ||
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Zzoram
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nGBeast
United States914 Posts
On January 13 2012 10:23 Zzoram wrote: what is today's news? what page of this thread is it buried on? sotg split from MLG | ||
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Canada3485 Posts
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