• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 03:10
CET 09:10
KST 17:10
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12Intel X Team Liquid Seoul event: Showmatches and Meet the Pros10
Community News
BGE Stara Zagora 2026 announced9[BSL21] Ro.16 Group Stage (C->B->A->D)4Weekly Cups (Nov 17-23): Solar, MaxPax, Clem win3RSL Season 3: RO16 results & RO8 bracket13Weekly Cups (Nov 10-16): Reynor, Solar lead Zerg surge2
StarCraft 2
General
BGE Stara Zagora 2026 announced SC: Evo Complete - Ranked Ladder OPEN ALPHA When will we find out if there are more tournament Weekly Cups (Nov 17-23): Solar, MaxPax, Clem win Weekly Cups (Nov 10-16): Reynor, Solar lead Zerg surge
Tourneys
RSL Revival: Season 3 Constellation Cup - Main Event - Stellar Fest Tenacious Turtle Tussle [Alpha Pro Series] Nice vs Cure $5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 501 Price of Progress Mutation # 500 Fright night Mutation # 499 Chilling Adaptation Mutation # 498 Wheel of Misfortune|Cradle of Death
Brood War
General
BW General Discussion Which season is the best in ASL? A cwal.gg Extension - Easily keep track of anyone soO on: FanTaSy's Potential Return to StarCraft BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] RO16 Group B - Sunday 21:00 CET [BSL21] RO16 Group C - Saturday 21:00 CET Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
Game Theory for Starcraft How to stay on top of macro? Current Meta PvZ map balance
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread The Perfect Game Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Beyond All Reason Should offensive tower rushing be viable in RTS games?
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Artificial Intelligence Thread YouTube Thread
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion NBA General Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023 TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Where to ask questions and add stream? The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Esports Earnings: Bigger Pri…
TrAiDoS
Thanks for the RSL
Hildegard
Saturation point
Uldridge
DnB/metal remix FFO Mick Go…
ImbaTosS
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1925 users

Official State of the Game Podcast Thread - Page 182

Forum Index > SC2 General
54608 CommentsPost a Reply
Prev 1 180 181 182 183 184 2731 Next
Subversion
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
South Africa3627 Posts
November 07 2010 10:22 GMT
#3621
why the hell was kulas allowed in the map pool anyway?

Piski
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Finland3461 Posts
November 07 2010 10:37 GMT
#3622
On November 07 2010 19:22 Subversion wrote:
why the hell was kulas allowed in the map pool anyway?



It was justified that playrs have a lot experience on DO and Kulas, which is true. Also the map pool was decided long time ago appereantly and they just didn't change it
Subversion
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
South Africa3627 Posts
November 07 2010 11:38 GMT
#3623
On November 07 2010 19:37 Piski wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2010 19:22 Subversion wrote:
why the hell was kulas allowed in the map pool anyway?



It was justified that playrs have a lot experience on DO and Kulas, which is true. Also the map pool was decided long time ago appereantly and they just didn't change it


Yeah they have experience on it... but none of them have played on it for like over a month.

and a lot of shit in sc2 shifts in a month. that seems pretty poor to me, they really should have adapted the map pool, its not difficult.
Antisocialmunky
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States5912 Posts
November 07 2010 12:49 GMT
#3624
I think that Nony vs PainUser by itself justifies the reason that it was in the map pool. That game was great.
[゚n゚] SSSSssssssSSsss ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Marine/Raven Guide:http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=163605
Roggay
Profile Joined April 2010
Switzerland6320 Posts
November 07 2010 12:55 GMT
#3625
On November 07 2010 21:49 Antisocialmunky wrote:
I think that Nony vs PainUser by itself justifies the reason that it was in the map pool. That game was great.


I think Desert Oasis is more justified (see Jinro vs Socke). Kulas Ravine was taken away of the map pool for a good reason, the map is retarded (IdrA had no chance to win, even if he knew that Nazgul was going blink stalker, it's just too powerfull on Kulas).
Gotmog
Profile Joined October 2010
Serbia899 Posts
November 07 2010 13:26 GMT
#3626
On November 06 2010 02:52 Dont Panic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2010 01:32 teko wrote:
On November 05 2010 15:39 Gotmog wrote:
I have a question, in last ep. Day9 said that Tyler has great practicing habits unlike other players.
That he plays with the idea what he should practice, and not some new BO or something. I found myself in that, if i want to "practice" i just go ladder, or try to smooth out BO vs Ai.

What exactly does he mean ? What is he practicing for example ?


It's kinda similar like what qxc said in his interview:

QXC: My schedule and activities emphasize efficiency and minimalism. I do exactly what is required and nothing more, and I do it in the most efficient manner possible.

http://www.mlgpro.com/content/page/319136/The-Terror-of-the-Terrans-MLG-Interviews-QXC

I don't believe qxc's and tylers are the same. QXC was saying he plays custom games because ladder has a chance of getting somebody that wont be a challenge to you. He wants to play vs someone who has atleast a 50% chance of beating him.

Tyler on the other hand does things individually. For example if he wants to work out timings on a build he can play versus a computer because the point isn't beat another person, but to get a solid build without distractions. I do the same thing right now. I was working this past week on getting my mechanics up so i played that multitasking trainer which boosted my effective apm by 40. If i were to do that on ladder the early game isnt really that challenging and i can't pull all my effort into mechanics without losing.

This is just my interpretation, teeler if im wrong call me out :D

You are my hero btw handsometoss!


I think you are right. I am also using Trainer for last few days, any other ideas for practice ?
I am a macro zerg so i don't really have timing atacks to work on...
"When you play the game of drones, you win or you die. There is no middle ground"
The KY
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United Kingdom6252 Posts
November 07 2010 13:48 GMT
#3627
On November 07 2010 21:55 Roggay wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2010 21:49 Antisocialmunky wrote:
I think that Nony vs PainUser by itself justifies the reason that it was in the map pool. That game was great.


I think Desert Oasis is more justified (see Jinro vs Socke). Kulas Ravine was taken away of the map pool for a good reason, the map is retarded (IdrA had no chance to win, even if he knew that Nazgul was going blink stalker, it's just too powerfull on Kulas).


At least Kulas is like any other map, ever. Desert Oasis makes for 'good' games because it is so weird that it's almost impossible to have a standard game on it. Which is not a good thing for players.

As far as I'm concerned, it's a dumbass move keeping them in the map pool. They're out for a reason, might as well have a tournament in the 1.1.1 version of the game...
cilinder007
Profile Joined August 2010
Slovenia7251 Posts
November 07 2010 13:52 GMT
#3628
so is there going to be a mlg minicast or something ?
Corrupted
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1255 Posts
November 07 2010 13:59 GMT
#3629
On November 07 2010 12:27 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
Jp says he is too tired. We will do one tomorrow


I'm sure we all expected this. Try and keep JP from saying their will be a cast every night of every event you guys go to...since everyone but him seems to know that will never happen.
"MarineKing rolling double sevens there" -Artosis
Astromonkey
Profile Joined August 2010
United States111 Posts
November 07 2010 14:54 GMT
#3630
On November 07 2010 17:25 BetterFasterStronger wrote:
Dear iNcontrol,

Why are people so retarded and take everything you say and blow it out of proportion?
Please don't change, I probably wouldn't listen to the Podcast if you weren't on it. No Offense JP/Day9/ and tyler is too chill to care

-AoNe

THIS. InControl is hilarious, I will be very disappointed if the haters get to him.
InteGrated
Profile Joined November 2010
United States259 Posts
November 07 2010 15:08 GMT
#3631
Definitely agree, incontrol is the reason i watch this show or at least wait every week for it.
Sean is too nice of a person, (doesnt want to say any mean stuff because he doesnt want his image to be hurt) aka his image is marketable.
-JP is just the host so obviously the same
-tyler is really calm and chill and another reason i watch it.


keep going incontrol! your overall just honest remarks and sometimes really cool answers keep me waiting every week. usually i just browse these forums but i made an account just to give you a positive comment. Btw i was happy to see both incontrol/machine do well this tourney. they definitely have worked hard and it was nice to see it pay off.
Fa1nT
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3423 Posts
November 07 2010 15:12 GMT
#3632
On November 07 2010 22:48 The KY wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2010 21:55 Roggay wrote:
On November 07 2010 21:49 Antisocialmunky wrote:
I think that Nony vs PainUser by itself justifies the reason that it was in the map pool. That game was great.


I think Desert Oasis is more justified (see Jinro vs Socke). Kulas Ravine was taken away of the map pool for a good reason, the map is retarded (IdrA had no chance to win, even if he knew that Nazgul was going blink stalker, it's just too powerfull on Kulas).


At least Kulas is like any other map, ever. Desert Oasis makes for 'good' games because it is so weird that it's almost impossible to have a standard game on it. Which is not a good thing for players.

As far as I'm concerned, it's a dumbass move keeping them in the map pool. They're out for a reason, might as well have a tournament in the 1.1.1 version of the game...


Yeah, just because DO or Kulas get one good match every 10 played that doesn't involve heavy map abuse leading to an easy win, doesn't make them good maps.

There can be a 100% flat, perfect square map, and it could have an epic game as well..
Backpack
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1776 Posts
November 07 2010 15:13 GMT
#3633
On November 07 2010 20:38 Subversion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2010 19:37 Piski wrote:
On November 07 2010 19:22 Subversion wrote:
why the hell was kulas allowed in the map pool anyway?



It was justified that playrs have a lot experience on DO and Kulas, which is true. Also the map pool was decided long time ago appereantly and they just didn't change it


Yeah they have experience on it... but none of them have played on it for like over a month.


Assuming that they ONLY ladder...

The MLG map pool is no secret to anyone. They knew to practice on kulas/do which is why people picked them.
"You people need to just generally care a lot less about everything." -Zatic
Vaporized
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1471 Posts
November 07 2010 17:04 GMT
#3634
yeah incontrol u are hilarious. never change
capgrass
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada1 Post
November 07 2010 17:33 GMT
#3635
On November 06 2010 02:40 islorens wrote:
[image loading]

It's a tricky question.


I feel like a celebrity philosopher now :D
If Artosis says something in the forest and there's nobody around to hear it is he still wrong?
KillerPlague
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1386 Posts
November 07 2010 17:40 GMT
#3636
^LOL
still have a half hour or so to listen to, but last weeks cast was awesome. hopefully a mini cast tonight =]
Side 1: Why no dominant players with 90% win ratio Side 2: Nerf Side 1
deanx
Profile Joined April 2010
United States78 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-07 19:20:32
November 07 2010 19:16 GMT
#3637
Maybe idra should have won the first game on the pre selected map so that he would get to pick the map for game 3. Get off nazgul's jock, his stalker micro was awesome and idra didn't have a build prepared to counter a 4gate even though the push came later than usual because of the blink tech.

Edit: MLG operates as a season comprised of events such as raleigh, DC, and dallas(national championship/end of season). Next season, hopefully the maps will update and there will be changes to tournament rules(continuation games in the lower bracket). Keeping the same map pool and rules across the entire season is important as it validates their ranking system, etc.
Bosu
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3247 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-07 19:21:41
November 07 2010 19:20 GMT
#3638
On November 08 2010 04:16 deanx wrote:
Maybe idra should have won the first game on the pre selected map so that he would get to pick the map for game 3. Get off nazgul's jock, his stalker micro was awesome and idra didn't have a build prepared to counter a 4gate even though the push came later than usual because of the blink tech.



Idra definitely played poorly on metalopolis. He absolutely could have won that game if he didn't suicide everything next to the wolf statue.

Kulas shouldn't have been in the map pool though. DO probably should have been replaced as well, but Kulas is MUCH more imbalanced. DO is just crappy to play on. Can't blame Nazgul for doing an anti idra strategy well or for picking a map that he had every right to pick.
#1 Kwanro Fan
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-07 19:22:48
November 07 2010 19:22 GMT
#3639
On November 08 2010 04:20 Bosu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2010 04:16 deanx wrote:
Maybe idra should have won the first game on the pre selected map so that he would get to pick the map for game 3. Get off nazgul's jock, his stalker micro was awesome and idra didn't have a build prepared to counter a 4gate even though the push came later than usual because of the blink tech.



Idra definitely played poorly on metalopolis. He absolutely could have won that game if he didn't suicide everything next to the wolf statue.

Kulas shouldn't have been in the map pool though. DO probably should have been replaced as well, but Kulas is MUCH more imbalanced. DO is just crappy to play on.


Yeah on both games he lost he didn't make good decisions. 1st game engaging where he did was stupid and the worst place to engage but he did for whatever reason which cost him game 1. Game 3 I think moving out was a mistake should have waited for roach speed or something but oh well his fault


Can't wait for the podcast later today assuming there is one
When I think of something else, something will go here
ZXRP
Profile Joined August 2010
South Africa114 Posts
November 07 2010 19:52 GMT
#3640
I heard that wheat and slasher are gonna do a cast after the tourney. Will this be on djwheat.tv?
If you wish to make an apple pie from scratch, you must first invent the Universe - Carl Sagan
Prev 1 180 181 182 183 184 2731 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Replay Cast
23:00
2025 KFC Monthly #3 - Day 2
Liquipedia
LAN Event
18:00
LANified! 37: Groundswell
Discussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
SortOf 147
StarCraft: Brood War
PianO 3392
Larva 379
Leta 377
Zeus 206
Shine 106
Bale 55
Backho 28
ivOry 14
ajuk12(nOOB) 1
NotJumperer 1
[ Show more ]
Dewaltoss 0
Dota 2
monkeys_forever569
NeuroSwarm113
League of Legends
JimRising 698
Counter-Strike
PGG 266
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor90
Other Games
summit1g11360
WinterStarcraft467
C9.Mang0354
Mew2King142
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick604
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream349
StarCraft: Brood War
UltimateBattle 37
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH207
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Rush1894
• Lourlo1097
• HappyZerGling208
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
51m
WardiTV Korean Royale
3h 51m
ByuN vs Cure
TBD vs NightMare
TBD vs Classic
TBD vs Solar
Zoun vs Creator
OSC
8h 51m
Sparkling Tuna Cup
1d 1h
WardiTV Korean Royale
1d 3h
Replay Cast
1d 15h
Wardi Open
2 days
Monday Night Weeklies
2 days
StarCraft2.fi
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
[ Show More ]
Wardi Open
3 days
StarCraft2.fi
3 days
PiGosaur Monday
3 days
Wardi Open
4 days
StarCraft2.fi
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
The PondCast
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Korean StarCraft League
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

SOOP Univ League 2025
RSL Revival: Season 3
Eternal Conflict S1

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
YSL S2
BSL Season 21
CSCL: Masked Kings S3
Slon Tour Season 2
META Madness #9
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2

Upcoming

BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
RSL Offline Finals
WardiTV 2025
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026: Closed Qualifier
eXTREMESLAND 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.