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Official State of the Game Podcast Thread - Page 1403

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Ezze
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada934 Posts
July 26 2011 17:46 GMT
#28041
Just whatever you do get rid of that girl please! Holy cow is she boring.
Corrupted
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1255 Posts
July 26 2011 17:50 GMT
#28042
On July 27 2011 02:43 drsenil wrote:
JP, Day9, Tyler, Artosis and iNcontrol would be a fantastic roser. Then bring me a litle idra to get me to heaven.


That would be fantastic. I watched the first episode with the new lineup and was very disappointed. I didn't even watch the last episode (the first one I've missed). I had pretty much written off watching anymore, but if Inc came back, so would I.
"MarineKing rolling double sevens there" -Artosis
nvs.
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada3609 Posts
July 26 2011 17:54 GMT
#28043
On July 27 2011 02:50 Corrupted wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2011 02:43 drsenil wrote:
JP, Day9, Tyler, Artosis and iNcontrol would be a fantastic roser. Then bring me a litle idra to get me to heaven.


That would be fantastic. I watched the first episode with the new lineup and was very disappointed. I didn't even watch the last episode (the first one I've missed). I had pretty much written off watching anymore, but if Inc came back, so would I.


The newest one was pretty boring / awkward so you didn't miss too much. Very strict one at a time Q&A with minimal pillar interaction and a lot of strange rules etc.
Bloodleaf
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-26 23:06:42
July 26 2011 19:13 GMT
#28044
I made a thread about a SotG reunion on reddit, I wanted to relay something a poster said which I feel is pretty accurate.
Nobody on the show seems to want to start any real conversation and it's a huge problem at the moment. JP brings up the subject, asks Tyler for his opinion, Tyler rambles until he's done, awkward silence, JP asks Artosis his opinion, Artosis rambles, etc. until it's gone around the table and then onto the next subject... I was bored through the entire episode.
iNcontrol was willing to push things into a back and forth discussion with the others, which made the show not so fucking boring.
They need someone who has the ability to churn up such conversation/arguments on the show, but there are very few of those whom are established personalities in the SC community. Hell, I can only think of 3: iNcontrol, Destiny, and DJwheat.
JP either needs to bring back iNcontrol, or find someone who's going to bring this element back to the show.
VirtuosoZ
Profile Joined October 2010
United States31 Posts
July 27 2011 01:02 GMT
#28045
On July 24 2011 08:28 Ezze wrote:
This week's show has so much potential... Hopefully instead of that random girl there will be someone who actually adds something to the show too.

Hey! Leah Jackson is awesome. You shut your dirty mouth!
There is no "high Diamond/low Masters" league. If you're Diamond, you're Diamond. That's it.
JoeCrow
Profile Joined March 2010
United States167 Posts
July 27 2011 01:28 GMT
#28046
On July 27 2011 04:13 Bloodleaf wrote:
I made a thread about a SotG reunion on reddit, I wanted to relay something a poster said which I feel is pretty accurate.
Show nested quote +
Nobody on the show seems to want to start any real conversation and it's a huge problem at the moment. JP brings up the subject, asks Tyler for his opinion, Tyler rambles until he's done, awkward silence, JP asks Artosis his opinion, Artosis rambles, etc. until it's gone around the table and then onto the next subject... I was bored through the entire episode.
iNcontrol was willing to push things into a back and forth discussion with the others, which made the show not so fucking boring.
They need someone who has the ability to churn up such conversation/arguments on the show, but there are very few of those whom are established personalities in the SC community. Hell, I can only think of 3: iNcontrol, Destiny, and DJwheat.
JP either needs to bring back iNcontrol, or find someone who's going to bring this element back to the show.


This is an excellent point. There isn't that much conversation going on - and JP still has some room to improve on the conversational obligations as host. JP may feel like he isn't qualified to talk about certain issues (game balance for instance), so he shies away from putting his own input, or posing questions.

With Incontrol there it was like he was sharing the hosting job with JP, and now that hes gone JP's weaknesses are emphasized.
lunchforthesky
Profile Joined June 2011
United Kingdom967 Posts
July 27 2011 01:30 GMT
#28047
I think that while InControl is missed Artosis is a brilliant addition as well. If Incontrol were to come back I would 100% want Artosis to stay.

Leah is pretty good too, she watches a lot of Starcraft has some good things to say and is also + Show Spoiler +
very attractive.
rotegirte
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany2859 Posts
July 27 2011 01:46 GMT
#28048
no sotg today? T_T
densha
Profile Joined December 2010
United States797 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-27 01:55:21
July 27 2011 01:47 GMT
#28049
On July 27 2011 04:13 Bloodleaf wrote:
I made a thread about a SotG reunion on reddit, I wanted to relay something a poster said which I feel is pretty accurate.
Show nested quote +
Nobody on the show seems to want to start any real conversation and it's a huge problem at the moment. JP brings up the subject, asks Tyler for his opinion, Tyler rambles until he's done, awkward silence, JP asks Artosis his opinion, Artosis rambles, etc. until it's gone around the table and then onto the next subject... I was bored through the entire episode.
iNcontrol was willing to push things into a back and forth discussion with the others, which made the show not so fucking boring.
They need someone who has the ability to churn up such conversation/arguments on the show, but there are very few of those whom are established personalities in the SC community. Hell, I can only think of 3: iNcontrol, Destiny, and DJwheat.
JP either needs to bring back iNcontrol, or find someone who's going to bring this element back to the show.



This is 100% the way I felt about the last show. It was so boring! I don't know why there wasn't really a conversation. It felt like JP framed the discussion badly - instead of just listing some random things, I would have much rather heard everyone discuss broad topics like the development of the metagame over the last year. How much more interesting and engaging would that be instead of "whats the best balance change?", etc.

SOTG should be about depth, and for some reason that's lacking since InControl has left. JP - ask more open ended questions, let your pillars discuss and converse, don't try to constrain the conversation so much like last episode.
If you wish to make an apple pie from scratch, you must first invent the universe.
doomed
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia420 Posts
July 27 2011 01:49 GMT
#28050
No Incontrol and a sick day9 and it seems everything becomes a news headline comment show. :/ would like the deep semi biased discussions back yes!
Nimic
Profile Joined September 2010
Norway1360 Posts
July 27 2011 01:50 GMT
#28051
Isn't there supposed to be a SotG soon? What did I miss?
hyptonic
Profile Joined June 2011
2155 Posts
July 27 2011 01:50 GMT
#28052
On July 27 2011 10:02 VirtuosoZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2011 08:28 Ezze wrote:
This week's show has so much potential... Hopefully instead of that random girl there will be someone who actually adds something to the show too.

Hey! Leah Jackson is awesome. You shut your dirty mouth!


To look at perhaps. Lets be honest, she has no place in a discussion of a) progamming news or b) balance discussion. Her answers hold no merit as she only says names things she knows off the top of her head. She also only talks when asked upon.
rotegirte
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany2859 Posts
July 27 2011 01:52 GMT
#28053
On July 27 2011 10:50 Nimic wrote:
Isn't there supposed to be a SotG soon? What did I miss?


from OP:

"Next Show: Wednesday, Aug 03 5:30am CEST (GMT+02:00)"

too bad... really needed another fix today
Honeybadger
Profile Joined August 2010
United States821 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-27 02:05:34
July 27 2011 01:57 GMT
#28054
Let me go into this with the pretense of this: Leah is just fine in her role as a gaming girl.

But for the love of god, she has no place in a SCII hardcore analysis show (IMO.) Her questions are just irritatingly dull, she says nothing insightful or funny, and she stands out as nothing more than a chance at getting eye candy on the show.

Which is really not her fault. She's not really built herself around this one game. So please stop bringing her on, as I can't actually stand watching SOTG with her (and subsequently, will be skipping any future shows that she has anything more than a cameo on)

Also agree with the dull, directionless questions. I know Day9 is capable of throwing a wrench into the gears and bringing up real conversation (his getting into it with idra was one of the best moments on the show) but he seems so obsessed with PC-ness about his obscenely huge fanbase, that he doesn't really bite anymore.

Too much discussion of tournaments. I really don't like listening to an hour and a half of announcing rosters for a tournament that will end in two days. I want to hear juicy shit, like the drama around puma, balance questions, patch questions, strategy questions, matchup questions. Those are interesting. Hearing "so five koreans are coming to MLG whogivesafuck, tyler, what do you think about this?" is getting dull to the point of tears.

Again, all just feedback. It's not my show, I just watch it.

Also, find a terran to come on regularly. Two protoss and a predominantly zerg is just... lopsided. When you have all points of view, there's much more opportunity for really fun discussion.

Bring in QXC. That man would be perfect.
"I like to tape my thumbs to my hands to see what it would be like to be a dinosaur."
Shelke14
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada6655 Posts
July 27 2011 01:59 GMT
#28055
On July 27 2011 10:02 VirtuosoZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2011 08:28 Ezze wrote:
This week's show has so much potential... Hopefully instead of that random girl there will be someone who actually adds something to the show too.

Hey! Leah Jackson is awesome. You shut your dirty mouth!



Agreed, I thought we were passed this bashing Leah Jackson... Shes good!
On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
July 27 2011 02:00 GMT
#28056
I agree that Leah does a great job. She clearly understands SC2 and puts a lot of work into the sport in her job.

I think the problem she has is she is talked over a lot and doesn't get the spotlight much (mostly b/c of JPs moderating which rarely gives guests a chance to talk).
Nimic
Profile Joined September 2010
Norway1360 Posts
July 27 2011 02:02 GMT
#28057
I am not convinced. She's well-meaning, but to be brutally honest she doesn't add anything meaningful to the show.
Honeybadger
Profile Joined August 2010
United States821 Posts
July 27 2011 02:04 GMT
#28058
On July 27 2011 11:02 Nimic wrote:
I am not convinced. She's well-meaning, but to be brutally honest she doesn't add anything meaningful to the show.


This. Why is all negative talk, even reinforcing, deemed as unacceptable? Has implying that any female that plays this game, in any regard, is anything less than perfect in every regard suddenly mandatory since the kelly milkies (who I was a fan of, to be clear) BS?
"I like to tape my thumbs to my hands to see what it would be like to be a dinosaur."
CaptainCharisma
Profile Joined February 2011
New Zealand808 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-27 02:11:58
July 27 2011 02:11 GMT
#28059
On July 27 2011 10:57 Honeybadger wrote:

Also, find a terran to come on regularly. Two protoss and a predominantly zerg is just... lopsided. When you have all points of view, there's much more opportunity for really fun discussion.

Bring in QXC. That man would be perfect.


Um, hello,....Leah B. Jackson is a Gold Terran player. What more could you ask for?


Edit: Oh, but I agree 100% with pretty much everything you said.
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Nimic
Profile Joined September 2010
Norway1360 Posts
July 27 2011 02:22 GMT
#28060
Bring iNcontroL back, if he really wants to. I have a tendency to dislike what he says sometimes (or more often how he says it), but it can't be denied he really brings something to SotG. Artosis and iNcontroL on SotG together could be very good. I would like a terran player too, but alas..
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