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happyness
Profile Joined June 2010
United States2400 Posts
July 27 2011 02:27 GMT
#28061
On July 27 2011 11:00 On_Slaught wrote:
I agree that Leah does a great job. She clearly understands SC2 and puts a lot of work into the sport in her job.

I think the problem she has is she is talked over a lot and doesn't get the spotlight much (mostly b/c of JPs moderating which rarely gives guests a chance to talk).


You think so? JP is usually good about not talking too much and only asking questions. Seems to me JP just forgets to get Leah's input. And frankly, Leah is still just a regular person and won't have as much to contribute as the others. I still like her and all, but it's the truth.

JP doesn't talk nearly as much as other moderators (i.e. Wheat)
AngelusDeLetum
Profile Joined April 2010
United States98 Posts
July 27 2011 02:28 GMT
#28062
Leah rocks plus she is more dialed in to the scene than a majority of the nubs out there that listen. iNcontroL adds controversy and controversy spurs popularity.
Honeybadger
Profile Joined August 2010
United States821 Posts
July 27 2011 02:35 GMT
#28063
On July 27 2011 11:28 AngelusDeLetum wrote:
Leah rocks plus she is more dialed in to the scene than a majority of the nubs out there that listen. iNcontroL adds controversy and controversy spurs popularity.



so because she isn't terrible, she's somehow a perfect fit?

The logic here escapes me.

A gold level, casual player, doesn't have a place on SOTG as a regular, entire-show member.

A cameo like anna? absolutely! But for two hours...
"I like to tape my thumbs to my hands to see what it would be like to be a dinosaur."
VillageBC
Profile Joined January 2011
322 Posts
July 27 2011 03:03 GMT
#28064
Meh, it's nice to have the typical testosterone fest broken up with a female voice.
Skank
Profile Joined October 2010
United States329 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-27 04:21:02
July 27 2011 04:20 GMT
#28065
On July 27 2011 11:35 Honeybadger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2011 11:28 AngelusDeLetum wrote:
Leah rocks plus she is more dialed in to the scene than a majority of the nubs out there that listen. iNcontroL adds controversy and controversy spurs popularity.



so because she isn't terrible, she's somehow a perfect fit?

The logic here escapes me.

A gold level, casual player, doesn't have a place on SOTG as a regular, entire-show member.

A cameo like anna? absolutely! But for two hours...


Not like she's a key figure in the development of ESports or anything. Plus, if she wasn't there, JP and Artosis would never remember which GSL game they are talking about, they'd just say "What was that one awesome PvZ?" Then Lisa comes in reminds everybody of the players, and the round, and which game it was. She's good for the cast.
"To be honest, to play protoss is ridiculously simple" -NesTea
Synche
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1345 Posts
July 27 2011 04:25 GMT
#28066
I agree, SoTG is a super analytical take on SC2. I really hope it stays that way, too. In that framework Leah adds nothing. JP is masters and even he doesn't understand the game as well as the usual guests. Let her have her cameo, or when they're talking about fun stuff.

Asking her hardcore questions and getting bad responses wouldn't help either.

I don't know, I hope things get better.
Honeybadger
Profile Joined August 2010
United States821 Posts
July 27 2011 05:25 GMT
#28067
On July 27 2011 13:20 Skank wrote:

Not like she's a key figure in the development of ESports or anything. Plus, if she wasn't there, JP and Artosis would never remember which GSL game they are talking about, they'd just say "What was that one awesome PvZ?" Then Lisa comes in reminds everybody of the players, and the round, and which game it was. She's good for the cast.


And therein lies the root of the problem. I'm really, really tired of them doing nothing but discuss tournaments, results, and who's playing in them. It made sense when there was just GSL and the occasional other tournament, but there are just far too many now.

I want my metagame, balance, and drama arguments back. SOTG really just feels like it's becoming little more than compiled tournament announcements.
"I like to tape my thumbs to my hands to see what it would be like to be a dinosaur."
Jetaap
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France4814 Posts
July 27 2011 07:41 GMT
#28068
On July 27 2011 14:25 Honeybadger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2011 13:20 Skank wrote:

Not like she's a key figure in the development of ESports or anything. Plus, if she wasn't there, JP and Artosis would never remember which GSL game they are talking about, they'd just say "What was that one awesome PvZ?" Then Lisa comes in reminds everybody of the players, and the round, and which game it was. She's good for the cast.


And therein lies the root of the problem. I'm really, really tired of them doing nothing but discuss tournaments, results, and who's playing in them. It made sense when there was just GSL and the occasional other tournament, but there are just far too many now.

I want my metagame, balance, and drama arguments back. SOTG really just feels like it's becoming little more than compiled tournament announcements.

I've got the same feeling, the problem is also that they each give their opinion, but there is very few back and forth discussion , which makes the whole thing boring at times.
Honeybadger
Profile Joined August 2010
United States821 Posts
July 27 2011 10:47 GMT
#28069
On July 27 2011 16:41 Jetaap wrote:
I've got the same feeling, the problem is also that they each give their opinion, but there is very few back and forth discussion , which makes the whole thing boring at times.


Yep. How much back and forth can there be when the subject is "rosters for MLG *insert next monthly tournament location here*"
"I like to tape my thumbs to my hands to see what it would be like to be a dinosaur."
SmoKim
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark10305 Posts
July 27 2011 11:29 GMT
#28070
On July 26 2011 06:18 Nontrivial wrote:
From the AMA with iNcontrol on reddit, someone asked if he would come back to SOTG and he said,
Show nested quote +
"told JP I could go back on he said "let me think about it" and that was 4 weeks ago with no word since. Not sure what it will take but I am willing/would like to. Might take some romancing now though since JP kinda spurned me But yeah, I loved that show and enjoy what we had going. EG recognized they fucked up would be nice if we could heal the wound!"
So JP let him back on please!


do you have a link to this "AMA on reddit" ?
"LOL I have 202 supply right now (3 minutes later)..."LOL NOW I HAVE 220 SUPPLY SUP?!?!?" - Mondragon
EnOmy
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia183 Posts
July 27 2011 11:51 GMT
#28071
Just want to post in this thread to register my continuing support for this pillar of the community, being SotG. I grew to really enjoy InC on the show and I'll continue to enjoy and tune it without him being a part of it all. Though officially, I would say he added a component to the show it has been lacking since his departure.
GG WP //// 24yo.M
dNa
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany591 Posts
July 27 2011 11:55 GMT
#28072
On July 27 2011 14:25 Honeybadger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2011 13:20 Skank wrote:

Not like she's a key figure in the development of ESports or anything. Plus, if she wasn't there, JP and Artosis would never remember which GSL game they are talking about, they'd just say "What was that one awesome PvZ?" Then Lisa comes in reminds everybody of the players, and the round, and which game it was. She's good for the cast.


And therein lies the root of the problem. I'm really, really tired of them doing nothing but discuss tournaments, results, and who's playing in them. It made sense when there was just GSL and the occasional other tournament, but there are just far too many now.

I want my metagame, balance, and drama arguments back. SOTG really just feels like it's becoming little more than compiled tournament announcements.


so, maybe that is just me, but ... isn't having "tournament results" to back up your opinion on meta game and balance a pretty nice thing?

And Leah does not only know tournament results, but is, as Skank already said, a figurehead of ESPORTS. In fact, she might not have the knowledge of the players on that cast, but on the other hand she asks some questions that are really interesting to the community. It's nice to have someone in there to have another view on the game and the community itself.

So all in all she is a pretty good addition to the cast, I like her work.
"a pitchfork is for hay. a trident is for killing bitches." -djwheat
Linwelin
Profile Joined March 2011
Ireland7554 Posts
July 27 2011 11:58 GMT
#28073
On July 27 2011 20:55 dNa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2011 14:25 Honeybadger wrote:
On July 27 2011 13:20 Skank wrote:

Not like she's a key figure in the development of ESports or anything. Plus, if she wasn't there, JP and Artosis would never remember which GSL game they are talking about, they'd just say "What was that one awesome PvZ?" Then Lisa comes in reminds everybody of the players, and the round, and which game it was. She's good for the cast.


And therein lies the root of the problem. I'm really, really tired of them doing nothing but discuss tournaments, results, and who's playing in them. It made sense when there was just GSL and the occasional other tournament, but there are just far too many now.

I want my metagame, balance, and drama arguments back. SOTG really just feels like it's becoming little more than compiled tournament announcements.


so, maybe that is just me, but ... isn't having "tournament results" to back up your opinion on meta game and balance a pretty nice thing?

And Leah does not only know tournament results, but is, as Skank already said, a figurehead of ESPORTS. In fact, she might not have the knowledge of the players on that cast, but on the other hand she asks some questions that are really interesting to the community. It's nice to have someone in there to have another view on the game and the community itself.

So all in all she is a pretty good addition to the cast, I like her work.


I agree with this.
She asks some pretty good questions
Fuck Razor and Death Prophet
Gamegene
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States8308 Posts
July 27 2011 12:01 GMT
#28074
B-B-B-BRING BACK iNcontrol!

Even if he goes on a propaganda campaign for the EG/Puma scandal I won't care, as long as we get some drama going with some friendly troll bait all around!
Throw on your favorite jacket and you're good to roll. Stroll through the trees and let your miseries go.
nathangonmad
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom317 Posts
July 27 2011 12:08 GMT
#28075
Was state of the game on last night? The blog site hasn't been updated yet.
Keep trying Leenock
Sandro
Profile Joined April 2011
897 Posts
July 27 2011 12:21 GMT
#28076
Is there a general cliff notes of what was discussed last night? Anything really interesting?
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
July 27 2011 13:39 GMT
#28077
Strange, I would've thought he would be too busy practicing SC2 to appear on State of the Game.

Anyway, 5 people + guest(s?) would be too much, and I don't wanna give Artosis up.
Lyter
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United Kingdom2145 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-27 13:53:19
July 27 2011 13:52 GMT
#28078
Incontrol coming back would certainly liven it up and make it much more fun, but I wouldn't swap Leah out for him, she was something of the spine of the show in her appearances, she asks the important questions and she knows more about recent matches and results than anyone else seems to, she's damn good. If I had to choose I'd take out JP for Inc, he is incredibly restrictive to the flow of the cast, forcing turns and stupid rules like no reasoning, as well as often being a buzzkill when some actual conversation gets going by saying some super retarded joke which just invokes awkward silence. Though obviously that's not really possible as he is the host.
seaofsaturn
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States489 Posts
July 27 2011 14:05 GMT
#28079
I say let it mature with the current cast. Can't think of anyone who I would want replaced.
Photoshop is over-powered.
NaldoR
Profile Joined November 2010
Singapore2198 Posts
July 27 2011 14:36 GMT
#28080
I really hope that Inc is added in. And Leah a pillar now?
With Nony day Inc artosis a's pillars, it may be too many providers but still they known each other for years and they will bring back the old casual feeling rather the more dry Q&A now... Still a fan thou. :D
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