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Icekommander
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada483 Posts
July 27 2011 21:51 GMT
#28101
While I like to hear about tournaments, I also agree that talking about results and how games went is a little dull. Instead, I'd prefer them to talk about the more general trends that are likely to occur in the tournament (and then what did occur after the fact). For example: Many Protoss were going 6-Gate vs Zerg, but the boys from EG, IdrA and Machine have started getting early roach burrow movement to counter it, which worked out better for IdrA than Machine.
Time Flies like an arrow. Fruit Flies like a banana.
Honeybadger
Profile Joined August 2010
United States821 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-28 05:32:38
July 28 2011 05:31 GMT
#28102
On July 28 2011 06:44 ProxyKnoxy wrote:
Hope this show is extra long to make up for the one we missed! And plus there's probably loads to talk about because of MLG


You mean lots of results to announce and asking the players what games they watched, to which they will respond "I was too busy."?! You bet your butt there will be!

$50 says that real strategy discussion of any kind consists of less than 20% of the show.
"I like to tape my thumbs to my hands to see what it would be like to be a dinosaur."
Xevious
Profile Joined February 2011
United States2086 Posts
July 28 2011 07:16 GMT
#28103
New SOTG Lineup:
-JP
-Totalbiscuit
-Combat-Ex
-John the Translator
-Idra's Cat


MAKE IT HAPPEN JP
SxYSpAz
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1451 Posts
July 28 2011 13:11 GMT
#28104
any word on incontrol?
Condor Hero
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States2931 Posts
July 28 2011 14:23 GMT
#28105
On July 28 2011 22:11 SxYSpAz wrote:
any word on incontrol?

kinda doubt that he would be a pillar again.
jp cant be happy to be jerked around by EG and probably doesnt want to have to deal with their shit in the future.
in any case, he got the best replacement for incontrol.
Hardigan
Profile Joined June 2011
Switzerland1297 Posts
July 28 2011 14:47 GMT
#28106
On July 28 2011 23:23 Condor Hero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2011 22:11 SxYSpAz wrote:
any word on incontrol?

kinda doubt that he would be a pillar again.
jp cant be happy to be jerked around by EG and probably doesnt want to have to deal with their shit in the future.
in any case, he got the best replacement for incontrol.

uninformed people are uninformed. pls stop spreading lies.

User was warned for this post
Condor Hero
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States2931 Posts
July 28 2011 14:50 GMT
#28107
On July 28 2011 23:47 Hardigan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2011 23:23 Condor Hero wrote:
On July 28 2011 22:11 SxYSpAz wrote:
any word on incontrol?

kinda doubt that he would be a pillar again.
jp cant be happy to be jerked around by EG and probably doesnt want to have to deal with their shit in the future.
in any case, he got the best replacement for incontrol.

uninformed people are uninformed. pls stop spreading lies.

everything i said was reasonable conjecture, if people werent allowed to discuss there wouldnt be threads like these with 1000+ pages.

but im sure you added a lot to the conversation.
SxYSpAz
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1451 Posts
July 28 2011 15:18 GMT
#28108
On July 28 2011 23:23 Condor Hero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2011 22:11 SxYSpAz wrote:
any word on incontrol?

kinda doubt that he would be a pillar again.
jp cant be happy to be jerked around by EG and probably doesnt want to have to deal with their shit in the future.
in any case, he got the best replacement for incontrol.

yeah, but him and incontrol are friends, and since the guys at EG are saying they'll make it work, i doubt they'll try to pull anything again. I guess JP could get some agreement to be sure. Also, he was good to have on the show and everyone knows that.

The only thing i worry about is the artosis incontrol debate xD
But seriously, jp better keep artosis no matter what
KingVietKong
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States170 Posts
July 28 2011 15:37 GMT
#28109
On July 29 2011 00:18 SxYSpAz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2011 23:23 Condor Hero wrote:
On July 28 2011 22:11 SxYSpAz wrote:
any word on incontrol?

kinda doubt that he would be a pillar again.
jp cant be happy to be jerked around by EG and probably doesnt want to have to deal with their shit in the future.
in any case, he got the best replacement for incontrol.

yeah, but him and incontrol are friends, and since the guys at EG are saying they'll make it work, i doubt they'll try to pull anything again. I guess JP could get some agreement to be sure. Also, he was good to have on the show and everyone knows that.

The only thing i worry about is the artosis incontrol debate xD
But seriously, jp better keep artosis no matter what


I think it could definitely work with both of them, since whenever Artosis dropped in as a guest it didn't get over-crowded. Also, since Day9 often leaves early it might even fill the show out a bit more to have the both of them on. Leah needs to be on a lot less though (nothing against her, but I'd prefer all the regulars to be SC2 pros. It'd be cool if she guest MC'd though, knock JP out every now and again, as long as she could drive the conversation points forward).

That said it was such a bad move for incontrol to leave in the first place. I don't see a world where him being on there with thousands of people listening to him would ever be bad on a practical sense, even if there was some sort of sponsor collision or whatever.
waylanderm
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands118 Posts
July 28 2011 16:26 GMT
#28110
i like the new format and altho i miss incontrol , i like artosis also . Not every episode can be epic , but loved the naniwa and seth ones.+ idra and incontrol have said that they will be back on as guests so it will happen eventually.
Now for an important question!!! will artosis make it into Grandmaster this season
SxYSpAz
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1451 Posts
July 28 2011 17:09 GMT
#28111
On July 29 2011 00:37 KingVietKong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2011 00:18 SxYSpAz wrote:
On July 28 2011 23:23 Condor Hero wrote:
On July 28 2011 22:11 SxYSpAz wrote:
any word on incontrol?

kinda doubt that he would be a pillar again.
jp cant be happy to be jerked around by EG and probably doesnt want to have to deal with their shit in the future.
in any case, he got the best replacement for incontrol.

yeah, but him and incontrol are friends, and since the guys at EG are saying they'll make it work, i doubt they'll try to pull anything again. I guess JP could get some agreement to be sure. Also, he was good to have on the show and everyone knows that.

The only thing i worry about is the artosis incontrol debate xD
But seriously, jp better keep artosis no matter what


I think it could definitely work with both of them, since whenever Artosis dropped in as a guest it didn't get over-crowded. Also, since Day9 often leaves early it might even fill the show out a bit more to have the both of them on. Leah needs to be on a lot less though (nothing against her, but I'd prefer all the regulars to be SC2 pros. It'd be cool if she guest MC'd though, knock JP out every now and again, as long as she could drive the conversation points forward).

That said it was such a bad move for incontrol to leave in the first place. I don't see a world where him being on there with thousands of people listening to him would ever be bad on a practical sense, even if there was some sort of sponsor collision or whatever.

i don't think it was fully under his control...
that's kinda ironic, haha

good points tho, although i don't think they're trying to make leah a regular, and i don't mind her since she continues to impress me with her knowledge on the proscene and never claims to know more than she does. She's clearly not someone to take advice from as trusting as you would from tyler or the other guest, but i don't think she is attempting to look like that as it is.

Although i do like the just hangin with the guys feel of SoTG lolol
RogerChillingworth
Profile Joined March 2010
Chad3132 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-28 18:57:46
July 28 2011 18:51 GMT
#28112
On July 28 2011 22:11 SxYSpAz wrote:
any word on incontrol?


I used to adore the guy on the show, but the last 3-4 months were extremely unenjoyable, almost solely because of him. I don't want to start a useless shitstorm, but I think this is something worth pointing out:



At around 2:00, incontrol draws attention to the conversation at hand being boring or a waste of time (texting in front of the webcam), albeit jokingly, when it was among one of the better if not -the- best exchanges between two figureheads of the community on a podcast. Whether you agreed with Day or Idra is irrelevant: it illuminated sentiments held by nearly all of the community, either on the "zerg is underpowered" side or the "this requires a lot more information, situations are unique" side.

I know it might have been due to Geoff hearing it from Greg all the time, and I don't mean to make a mountain out of a molehill, but he mocks worthwhile exchange and then turns around to consume 20-30 minutes of a show committing worse crimes of cyclical debate or rolling around in community drama.

I wish the guy the best of success, and have nothing personally against him, but would prefer other people.

Unless, of course, he has realized this and has transformed. But I think not
Honeybadger
Profile Joined August 2010
United States821 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-28 21:10:47
July 28 2011 21:08 GMT
#28113
On July 29 2011 03:51 RogerChillingworth wrote:
I know it might have been due to Geoff hearing it from Greg all the time, and I don't mean to make a mountain out of a molehill, but he mocks worthwhile exchange and then turns around to consume 20-30 minutes of a show committing worse crimes of cyclical debate or rolling around in community drama.

I wish the guy the best of success, and have nothing personally against him, but would prefer other people.

Unless, of course, he has realized this and has transformed. But I think not


You're reading way the heck more into that than was actually there. What could he have possibly added to that conversation? Either he sides with idra and is suddenly hated for supporting an opinion as jaded as idra's, or he doesn't, and is hated for not supporting his teammate. When people take partisan sides in things like this, unless you're as truly neutral as day9 (which let's face it, has gotten a bit dull, outside of his debate with idra... which was still a position of neutrality.) You're going to get shit for anything you do. The politics within this game are the same as politics everywhere.

That debate was between two people. Anyone sticking their hand into that conversation was likely to get it bitten off.

I think you're really just looking for an excuse to dislike someone you don't agree with. While I didn't always agree with his position, he was a driving force that really kept the show moving, even through the hours of worthless tournament stats.
"I like to tape my thumbs to my hands to see what it would be like to be a dinosaur."
RogerChillingworth
Profile Joined March 2010
Chad3132 Posts
July 28 2011 21:59 GMT
#28114
was just an example of something he's done a few times on the show when he hasn't talked for a while. thought it was kind of ironic, given everything. got nothin against him :p

obviously he would be awesome as a guest, especially after mlg or something.


FortyOzs
Profile Joined February 2011
189 Posts
July 28 2011 22:03 GMT
#28115
I've always wondered who writes this shit about all this drama, there must be like a group of 40 year old women who watch SOTG and write their opinions in here. It's really surprising.
Honeybadger
Profile Joined August 2010
United States821 Posts
July 29 2011 02:57 GMT
#28116
On July 29 2011 06:59 RogerChillingworth wrote:
was just an example of something he's done a few times on the show when he hasn't talked for a while. thought it was kind of ironic, given everything. got nothin against him :p

obviously he would be awesome as a guest, especially after mlg or something.


With how much weight he's thrown towards keeping the conversation moving in SO many of these SOTG's, even as the subjects discussed got more and more awful and boring, I'll allow him a few moments of silence and texting. After all, it's just some nerds sitting in front of a webcam, with no particular one on center stage at all times, for two hours. Who cares if they just take a short break to shovel food into their mouth (a-la day9) or look at their phone, or surf the internet, when it's not their turn to talk?

I sure know that if I was on the show, any time Leah started talking, I'd be browsing team liquid and be A.D.D.ing myself out of the conversation until she was done.
"I like to tape my thumbs to my hands to see what it would be like to be a dinosaur."
KevinIX
Profile Joined October 2009
United States2472 Posts
July 29 2011 03:00 GMT
#28117
Get Sheth to guest on the next show.
Liquid FIGHTING!!!
RogerChillingworth
Profile Joined March 2010
Chad3132 Posts
July 29 2011 03:14 GMT
#28118
On July 29 2011 11:57 Honeybadger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2011 06:59 RogerChillingworth wrote:
was just an example of something he's done a few times on the show when he hasn't talked for a while. thought it was kind of ironic, given everything. got nothin against him :p

obviously he would be awesome as a guest, especially after mlg or something.


With how much weight he's thrown towards keeping the conversation moving in SO many of these SOTG's, even as the subjects discussed got more and more awful and boring, I'll allow him a few moments of silence and texting. After all, it's just some nerds sitting in front of a webcam, with no particular one on center stage at all times, for two hours. Who cares if they just take a short break to shovel food into their mouth (a-la day9) or look at their phone, or surf the internet, when it's not their turn to talk?

I sure know that if I was on the show, any time Leah started talking, I'd be browsing team liquid and be A.D.D.ing myself out of the conversation until she was done.



ahh...agreed. But that's not exactly what I meant. No matter! It's not important!

Excited for the next show

during which we discuss sheth's mlg victory
KevinIX
Profile Joined October 2009
United States2472 Posts
July 29 2011 03:43 GMT
#28119
Well, SotG already has 4 pillars. Adding another one and a guest kind of makes the show bloated. By the time they get to the last guy, they have nothing to add.
Liquid FIGHTING!!!
Condor Hero
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States2931 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-29 03:46:33
July 29 2011 03:46 GMT
#28120
sheeeeeeeeeeeeth to liquid!!!
hes gotta guest next episode, make it happen JP!
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