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joen05
Profile Joined July 2011
United States126 Posts
August 01 2011 17:27 GMT
#28141
On August 02 2011 02:14 SxYSpAz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2011 01:45 joen05 wrote:
On August 02 2011 01:35 Dogbert wrote:
Is there going to be a SotG tomorrow night or not until next week?


I would say tomorrow based on the OP. Can't wait to hear what these guys have to say about Anaheim. :-)

the thing i'm most hoping to hear is tyler saying "because my destruction through open bracket, and then not placing too high in the tourney, i'm going to actually start playing this game and leave nothing alive in my path"

or ya know something along those lines


This. Definitely. Curious to know if fatigue had a lot to do with it. He had to play a ton of games, and then play against a lot of good (Liquid) players in pool play.
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thee telescopes
Profile Joined August 2010
321 Posts
August 01 2011 17:28 GMT
#28142
I think I liked the show more with Incontrol on it (not that I don't really like it now), right now it feels like JP interviewing a few people at the same time; there's very little interaction between the pillars/guests and Geoff always did a good job of engaging with everyone else.
Logros
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands9913 Posts
August 01 2011 17:29 GMT
#28143
I would be so happy if Inc got back on SotG
SxYSpAz
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1451 Posts
August 01 2011 20:12 GMT
#28144
On August 02 2011 02:18 Gamegene wrote:
We got controversies, Hellions, GSL Finals, team switches, BOXER(!!!!) and plenty of Toss whining to go around.

Can't wait for the next SOTG.

toss whining? i would like references and/or links, cause i'm pretty sure toss players don't whine. we remain resilient through all are hardcomings, overcome all obstacles, no matter how large and plentiful they may be with hands held high <^-_-^>
Zaphid
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic1860 Posts
August 01 2011 20:16 GMT
#28145
I hope they mention the MLG replays issue
I will never ever play Mech against Protoss. - MVP
ZaaaaaM
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands1828 Posts
August 01 2011 20:18 GMT
#28146
Looking forward to wednesday and the new SotG, expecting what they have to say about MLG
no dude, the question
ProxyKnoxy
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom2576 Posts
August 01 2011 20:21 GMT
#28147
Looking forward to what Tyler has to say about his run (eventually off a cliff). Shame to see him get sweeped after seeing him beat Choya.

"Zealot try give mariners high five. Mariners not like high five and try hide and shoot zealot"
Linwelin
Profile Joined March 2011
Ireland7554 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-01 20:25:13
August 01 2011 20:24 GMT
#28148
Maybe they will admit that they shouldn't have underestimated Boxer just because he's not doing so well in the GSL?
Fuck Razor and Death Prophet
Glueburn
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States496 Posts
August 01 2011 20:28 GMT
#28149
On August 02 2011 05:24 Linwelin wrote:
Maybe they will admit that they shouldn't have underestimated Boxer just because he's not doing so well in the GSL?


Lol, day9 will royally shit on everyone for doubting Boxer.

I can't remember Artosis's stance on Boxer though, but I can see a 10 minute part of the show of just them aweing over SlayerS, specifically Boxer.
Sometimes you have to play a long time to be able to play like yourself. - Miles Davis
Condor Hero
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States2931 Posts
August 01 2011 20:28 GMT
#28150
On August 02 2011 05:24 Linwelin wrote:
Maybe they will admit that they shouldn't have underestimated Boxer just because he's not doing so well in the GSL?

people probably know this but it still has to be said: though boxer is considered weak amongst koreans, he would still rip apart 95% of foreign progamers.
Linwelin
Profile Joined March 2011
Ireland7554 Posts
August 01 2011 20:32 GMT
#28151
On August 02 2011 05:28 Condor Hero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2011 05:24 Linwelin wrote:
Maybe they will admit that they shouldn't have underestimated Boxer just because he's not doing so well in the GSL?

people probably know this but it still has to be said: though boxer is considered weak amongst koreans, he would still rip apart 95% of foreign progamers.


Of course, Boxer is probably not the best Korean out there at the moment. But they were all saying (except day9) that he would not even make it out of his group.
Fuck Razor and Death Prophet
MarcH
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom362 Posts
August 01 2011 20:46 GMT
#28152
On August 02 2011 05:32 Linwelin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2011 05:28 Condor Hero wrote:
On August 02 2011 05:24 Linwelin wrote:
Maybe they will admit that they shouldn't have underestimated Boxer just because he's not doing so well in the GSL?

people probably know this but it still has to be said: though boxer is considered weak amongst koreans, he would still rip apart 95% of foreign progamers.


Of course, Boxer is probably not the best Korean out there at the moment. But they were all saying (except day9) that he would not even make it out of his group.



To be fair Artosis did say if he was focused he could still tear it up as people have said in the past oh boxer is finished but then he wins something or comes good in a tournament.
Canucklehead
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada5074 Posts
August 01 2011 21:12 GMT
#28153
On August 02 2011 05:24 Linwelin wrote:
Maybe they will admit that they shouldn't have underestimated Boxer just because he's not doing so well in the GSL?


I agree, everyone but Day9 and to a certain extent Artosis, owe boxer an apology for constantly downplaying him and calling him the weakest korean by far. His level may not be up to par as the top koreans, but it's still high enough to own foreigners.
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CruelZeratul
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany4588 Posts
August 01 2011 21:39 GMT
#28154
How do I watch the second part of SotG 44?
BlueSpace
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany2182 Posts
August 01 2011 21:56 GMT
#28155
On August 02 2011 06:12 Canucklehead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2011 05:24 Linwelin wrote:
Maybe they will admit that they shouldn't have underestimated Boxer just because he's not doing so well in the GSL?


I agree, everyone but Day9 and to a certain extent Artosis, owe boxer an apology for constantly downplaying him and calling him the weakest korean by far. His level may not be up to par as the top koreans, but it's still high enough to own foreigners.


Listen to the episode. They judged his recent performance but they also said that Boxer can always surprise people and that is what he did.

Also Day9 is like a giant Boxer fan. I think he even said in the previous SOTG that real Starcraft fans when playing against Boxer will secretly hope to loose. This was meant as joke of course but it shows the huge admiration he has for him.

Also asking people, that you don't know, to apologize to people, that you also don't know, is kind of strange.
Probe1: "Because people are opinionated and love to share their thoughts. Then they read someone else agree with them and get their opinion confused with fact."
bone577
Profile Joined December 2005
Australia65 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-02 07:38:15
August 02 2011 07:37 GMT
#28156
On July 29 2011 15:14 CookieMaker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2011 15:07 Za7oX wrote:
On July 29 2011 14:54 MisterFred wrote:
Just make InControl (much as I like him) a guest every few weeks until one of the other pillars gets tired of the show (tyler, perhaps...) and then bring him back. I do think more than 4 hosts + a guest or 2 would be too much.


OMG

They CAN'T be on the show.

They can only be on the EG shows.

Everyone know's this


You are just plain wrong sir.

Alex Garfield (General Manager of Evil Geniuses) publicly stated that if InControl wanted to return to SOTG he was more than welcome to, assuming JP would take him back.

InControl chose NOT to return for many, read "many, not all", of the same reasons he initially left the show for, most notably that he simply didn't have the time and energy he needed to be able to produce two shows, cast frequently (at the time he was doing NASL) and, god forbid, practice Starcraft 2 and actually be a progamer at a high enough level that he has a chance to win a tournament. Oh, and have any sort of life.

Please retract your post now that you have been informed of the facts and stop spreading falsehoods that simply aren't true.




iNcontroL and Idra simultaneously couldn't go on SoTG anymore and are now on several EG backed and billed shows and you are going to believe the head of EG when he tells you it is for their own personal reasons? Then after a backlash and even more bad PR for an organization that has the worst image in the industry, iNcontroL is now looking to come back.

It would be naive of you to believe this coming from the mouth of any business, but even worse that it is Alex Garfield. Do you really think that name gives the testimony any sort of credibility.
Horse...falcon
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1851 Posts
August 02 2011 07:44 GMT
#28157
On August 02 2011 16:37 bone577 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2011 15:14 CookieMaker wrote:
On July 29 2011 15:07 Za7oX wrote:
On July 29 2011 14:54 MisterFred wrote:
Just make InControl (much as I like him) a guest every few weeks until one of the other pillars gets tired of the show (tyler, perhaps...) and then bring him back. I do think more than 4 hosts + a guest or 2 would be too much.


OMG

They CAN'T be on the show.

They can only be on the EG shows.

Everyone know's this


You are just plain wrong sir.

Alex Garfield (General Manager of Evil Geniuses) publicly stated that if InControl wanted to return to SOTG he was more than welcome to, assuming JP would take him back.

InControl chose NOT to return for many, read "many, not all", of the same reasons he initially left the show for, most notably that he simply didn't have the time and energy he needed to be able to produce two shows, cast frequently (at the time he was doing NASL) and, god forbid, practice Starcraft 2 and actually be a progamer at a high enough level that he has a chance to win a tournament. Oh, and have any sort of life.

Please retract your post now that you have been informed of the facts and stop spreading falsehoods that simply aren't true.




iNcontroL and Idra simultaneously couldn't go on SoTG anymore and are now on several EG backed and billed shows and you are going to believe the head of EG when he tells you it is for their own personal reasons? Then after a backlash and even more bad PR for an organization that has the worst image in the industry, iNcontroL is now looking to come back.

It would be naive of you to believe this coming from the mouth of any business, but even worse that it is Alex Garfield. Do you really think that name gives the testimony any sort of credibility.


Wasn't this cleared up?

JP was approached by a company to sponsor SOTG. This company was a direct competitor with one of EG's major sponsors. Thus they planned to make a new show (ITG) and gave Inc/Idra a salary boost for it. Eventually the potential sponsorship for SOTG fell through and now there should be no conflict for EG players on the show.

No need to bring your personal dislike for a team into the discussion. This "Rawr, Business=Evil" crap is getting pathetic. Grow up.
Artosis: "From horsssse....falcon"
Mars.DreaM
Profile Joined June 2011
United States24 Posts
August 02 2011 07:46 GMT
#28158
Its not worth arguing about anymore really. Everything has been talked about and out there and if I believe I saw it in his AMA he said EG realized they fucked up and he wanted to be back thats all there is to it.
ReVolt.inm
Profile Joined July 2010
34 Posts
August 02 2011 09:35 GMT
#28159
PLZ make iNcontroL come back on the show.
gregnog
Profile Joined December 2010
United States289 Posts
August 02 2011 09:58 GMT
#28160
On August 02 2011 02:28 thee telescopes wrote:
I think I liked the show more with Incontrol on it (not that I don't really like it now), right now it feels like JP interviewing a few people at the same time; there's very little interaction between the pillars/guests and Geoff always did a good job of engaging with everyone else.


I pretty much agree with this. The show seems more bland now. Everyone just quietly and politely answering questions. With Lea and Artosis on there now there just seems to be some kind of disconnect that was not there with the old show. Not to hate on Leah, but she seems to have basically no input on any of the discussions. Artosis is one of my favorite nerds, but he dose not bring the same energy that Geoff had.
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