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onmach
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States1241 Posts
October 19 2010 15:31 GMT
#2181
I love the podcast. I don't blame you if you don't bother to do one this week due to the fact that you've done three last week, but I will be sad anyways.
xenom00t
Profile Joined February 2009
United States162 Posts
October 19 2010 15:33 GMT
#2182
On October 20 2010 00:31 onmach wrote:
I love the podcast. I don't blame you if you don't bother to do one this week due to the fact that you've done three last week, but I will be sad anyways.
JP said they were going to do one today because they were to tired to do one yesterday. :D
IdrA, letting me know its OK to rage :]
NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8751 Posts
October 19 2010 15:39 GMT
#2183
On October 19 2010 23:40 debasers wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2010 23:02 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
On October 19 2010 17:58 Ghad wrote:
On October 19 2010 17:25 loladin wrote:
I'd rather pick on the all the toss players whom he played in a row. They had litterally dosens of games to figure out his playstyle and counter it, but weren't able to do so.


How much of a chance have the players at the event to do such analysis at the spot though? Tyler played Huk and then went pretty much straight into the ring against select, for example.

lol yeah this kid has it backwards. i owned select on friday... pretty much would have been 3-0 if i hadnt slipped up w/ silly errors a bit in game 1. then select had a day to think about how he'd adjust if he played me again. i went into the tournament knowing how to beat what he was doing. what was stupid is that i tried different builds things the 2nd time i played him because i assumed i'd need to. i think i would have done much better if i had played 1 build over and over against him because i think i can outplay him when he does his one build order and i do my one build order. at least the evidence points toward that being true


Yeah, I think it would've worked :/ But you played very very well anyway.


btw, nice to see that you like elliott smith

thanks

On October 19 2010 23:46 Congism wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2010 23:02 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
On October 19 2010 17:58 Ghad wrote:
On October 19 2010 17:25 loladin wrote:
I'd rather pick on the all the toss players whom he played in a row. They had litterally dosens of games to figure out his playstyle and counter it, but weren't able to do so.


How much of a chance have the players at the event to do such analysis at the spot though? Tyler played Huk and then went pretty much straight into the ring against select, for example.

lol yeah this kid has it backwards. i owned select on friday... pretty much would have been 3-0 if i hadnt slipped up w/ silly errors a bit in game 1. then select had a day to think about how he'd adjust if he played me again. i went into the tournament knowing how to beat what he was doing. what was stupid is that i tried different builds things the 2nd time i played him because i assumed i'd need to. i think i would have done much better if i had played 1 build over and over against him because i think i can outplay him when he does his one build order and i do my one build order. at least the evidence points toward that being true

So u got physced out by a robot, I mean sticking with the same build did great by him.

you dont remember what this discussion is about? ridiculous... there have been only 200 words and you yourself quoted them so that they're right in front of you and yet you manage to add irrelevant garbage. here's the summary: some guy says that the protoss at mlg might deserve some flack for being unable to defeat select in all his predictability. i correct him with the fact that i did come into the tournament beating his tvp (when he wasnt fatigued...lol). but of course we all know that i also lost to him on day 2 so i also explained what builds we did there and how it happened. i had beaten his predictable tvp one way but i wanted to try to beat it in other ways as well because i thought a variety of strategies would be more robust. the sad truth is i didnt practice enough to be able to play a variety of builds at a high level so the best thing i could have done is stick to the inferior option of playing only one build. bottom line: at least one protoss at mlg was prepared with a way to beat select. it's a fact -- end of discussion.

so you respond to this by just repeating the most obvious statement possible, an observation that was in fact made by incontrol weeks ago and has been made by virtually every person who has commented on select's mlg performace: select does well with only one build.

g a r b a g e
"Fucking up is part of it. If you can't fail, you have to always win. And I don't think you can always win." Elliott Smith ---------- Yet no sudden rage darkened his face, and his eyes were calm as they studied her. Then he smiled. 'Witness.'
Antoine
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States7481 Posts
October 19 2010 15:41 GMT
#2184
tyler maybe you can explain, why do people hate on select's 1-build TvP but praise idra's 1-build ZvT?
ModeratorFlash Sea Action Snow Midas | TheStC Ret Tyler MC | RIP 우정호
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
October 19 2010 15:43 GMT
#2185
Hard to believe this nonsense is still going on
NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8751 Posts
October 19 2010 15:43 GMT
#2186
and on a sidenote, players hardly ever get to study the games of their opponents. you really have to go out of your way to try to get some good info on how your next opponent has been playing and even then you might not be successful. and it's also unreasonable to study all of your opponents in advance and even more unreasonable to prepare something specific for each one. this goes back to the format of this kind of tournament. it all happens very quickly. compare to a starleague where you know your opponent days before you play and you have dozens of hours to research and prepare specifically for that opponent. it's very different. you can try to adjust on-the-fly but if it's not something you coincidentally happened to have practiced already, you probably are not going to execute it well
"Fucking up is part of it. If you can't fail, you have to always win. And I don't think you can always win." Elliott Smith ---------- Yet no sudden rage darkened his face, and his eyes were calm as they studied her. Then he smiled. 'Witness.'
formthehead
Profile Joined June 2010
United States81 Posts
October 19 2010 15:45 GMT
#2187
why is idra a 1-build ZvT? People make fun of him for that a lot but that doesn't seem to be the case from what I've seen (hatch-first doesn't count as a build, and he opens pool first sometimes too, I think)
NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8751 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-19 15:52:09
October 19 2010 15:51 GMT
#2188
On October 20 2010 00:41 Antoine wrote:
tyler maybe you can explain, why do people hate on select's 1-build TvP but praise idra's 1-build ZvT?

i think idra's zvt is actually very flexible. he's prepared to make a ton of adjustments and different unit compositions. tvp right now is in such a state that on most maps the terrans can just go MMM and get some vikings later and they can literally do that every single game against anything the protoss is doing.

idra's zvt is like a protoss rushing to observers and then adjusting based on what is scouted and select's tvp is like a protoss 4 warpgate rushing

ps: sylar plz dont kill me
"Fucking up is part of it. If you can't fail, you have to always win. And I don't think you can always win." Elliott Smith ---------- Yet no sudden rage darkened his face, and his eyes were calm as they studied her. Then he smiled. 'Witness.'
Klive5ive
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom6056 Posts
October 19 2010 15:56 GMT
#2189
On October 20 2010 00:51 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2010 00:41 Antoine wrote:
tyler maybe you can explain, why do people hate on select's 1-build TvP but praise idra's 1-build ZvT?

i think idra's zvt is actually very flexible. he's prepared to make a ton of adjustments and different unit compositions. tvp right now is in such a state that on most maps the terrans can just go MMM and get some vikings later and they can literally do that every single game against anything the protoss is doing.

idra's zvt is like a protoss rushing to observers and then adjusting based on what is scouted and select's tvp is like a protoss 4 warpgate rushing

ps: sylar plz dont kill me

Next state of the game talk about Blizzcon please and how Select and Huk are representing America. xD
Don't hate the player - Hate the game
heishe
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany2284 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-19 16:01:11
October 19 2010 15:59 GMT
#2190
nony don't be in such a bad mood, you have the sexiest voice of them all!

edit: I know I've said that before, but I'm not gay. For Tyler I'd reconsider though. Too bad he's married.
If you value your soul, never look into the eye of a horse. Your soul will forever be lost in the void of the horse.
Awesomo
Profile Joined June 2010
Netherlands206 Posts
October 19 2010 16:05 GMT
#2191
On October 20 2010 00:51 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
idra's zvt is like a protoss rushing to observers and then adjusting based on what is scouted and select's tvp is like a protoss 4 warpgate rushing


Dear diary,

Today tyler compared what is essentially my pvz play, to Idra's zvt.
It was the best day ever, expect me at gsl 3.


On a side note: does anyone know where i can download the daily state of the weapon on three post-mlg podcast, i haven't been able to find it anywhere.
I have an ice-cold beer, everything is possible.
Antoine
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States7481 Posts
October 19 2010 16:09 GMT
#2192
On October 20 2010 00:51 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2010 00:41 Antoine wrote:
tyler maybe you can explain, why do people hate on select's 1-build TvP but praise idra's 1-build ZvT?

i think idra's zvt is actually very flexible. he's prepared to make a ton of adjustments and different unit compositions. tvp right now is in such a state that on most maps the terrans can just go MMM and get some vikings later and they can literally do that every single game against anything the protoss is doing.

idra's zvt is like a protoss rushing to observers and then adjusting based on what is scouted and select's tvp is like a protoss 4 warpgate rushing

ps: sylar plz dont kill me

ah ok, that makes sense
and yeah i get that a lot =P
ModeratorFlash Sea Action Snow Midas | TheStC Ret Tyler MC | RIP 우정호
gerundium
Profile Joined June 2010
Netherlands786 Posts
October 19 2010 16:25 GMT
#2193
On October 20 2010 01:05 Awesomo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2010 00:51 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
idra's zvt is like a protoss rushing to observers and then adjusting based on what is scouted and select's tvp is like a protoss 4 warpgate rushing


Dear diary,

Today tyler compared what is essentially my pvz play, to Idra's zvt.
It was the best day ever, expect me at gsl 3.


On a side note: does anyone know where i can download the daily state of the weapon on three post-mlg podcast, i haven't been able to find it anywhere.


you can find that on the archives of djWheats ustream.

Link: http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/10269069
Adebisi
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada1637 Posts
October 19 2010 17:13 GMT
#2194
On October 20 2010 00:56 Klive5ive wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2010 00:51 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
On October 20 2010 00:41 Antoine wrote:
tyler maybe you can explain, why do people hate on select's 1-build TvP but praise idra's 1-build ZvT?

i think idra's zvt is actually very flexible. he's prepared to make a ton of adjustments and different unit compositions. tvp right now is in such a state that on most maps the terrans can just go MMM and get some vikings later and they can literally do that every single game against anything the protoss is doing.

idra's zvt is like a protoss rushing to observers and then adjusting based on what is scouted and select's tvp is like a protoss 4 warpgate rushing

ps: sylar plz dont kill me

Next state of the game talk about Blizzcon please and how Select and Huk are representing America. xD

Yeah its really kinda dumb, like I thought Select was a Korean just studying in USA? Or are his parents just Korean and he's actually a US citizen? Seems weird if there's no actual American. They should've done USA and Canada both get 2!
MLG_Wiggin
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States767 Posts
October 19 2010 17:24 GMT
#2195
I love it when players come into the thread and just destroy people :D
@DBWiggin, SC2 ref
fantomex
Profile Joined June 2009
United States313 Posts
October 19 2010 17:58 GMT
#2196
I feel like I've watched the same TvP on Xel'Naga Caverns 10 times. Its terrible. T goes MMM+vikings, makes PF at gold and its gg.

And then TLO loses that exact matchup in GSL. Sigh....
Replay or GTFO
NoXious90
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom160 Posts
October 19 2010 18:02 GMT
#2197
will the cast be out tomorrow?
ApBuLLet
Profile Joined September 2010
United States604 Posts
October 19 2010 18:13 GMT
#2198
On October 20 2010 00:56 Klive5ive wrote:
Next state of the game talk about Blizzcon please and how Select and Huk are representing America. xD


Haha yeah... a canadian and a korean american... go figure. Oh well, best of luck to both of them.
WiljushkA
Profile Joined March 2006
Serbia1416 Posts
October 19 2010 18:14 GMT
#2199
On October 20 2010 00:41 Antoine wrote:
tyler maybe you can explain, why do people hate on select's 1-build TvP but praise idra's 1-build ZvT?


cause idra doesnt do 1 build zvt, or if you think that all he does still falls under "one build" thats because the zerg doesnt have any other options.
"As much as I love the image of me F5-ing paypal every 15 minutes while fist pumping and screaming "SHIP THE MONEY BITCHES"" - Day9
OutlaW-
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic5053 Posts
October 19 2010 18:14 GMT
#2200
Why all the hate on Select? I mean I know you guys are not really hating him, but you do seem to find any negativity about his play, out of envy perhaps?
Delete your post underage b&. You're incestuous for you're onee-chan so you're clearly not a bad guy, but others might not agree
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