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tarsier
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom223 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-12 08:54:38
August 12 2010 08:54 GMT
#141
the only truely ugly character in the pro gaming scene is artosis. he really looks like an energy drink fuelled nerd who never goes outside except to interview some guy in a coffee shop. i don't think he's slept since 1998.

everyone else is pretty normal looking.

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Odge
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden84 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-12 09:08:29
August 12 2010 09:03 GMT
#142
I don't think the basement lurker stigma is about looks, but about having a really introvert personality. So many gamers seem really insecure when doing interviews, staring at their shoelaces and not making eye contact with the interviewer. Athletes you see on TV are usually very self confident and come across a lot more charismatic than your average nerd.

Some media training or at least some classes in public speaking should be really helpful to the growth of e-sports. Sure every pro gamer looking like Brad Pitt wouldn't hurt, but you can go really far with charisma. And I'm sure most gamers have that charisma, they just aren't comfortable enough in the public to really make it show.

What I do when I'm doing business presentations is I step into the role of my title. That makes the title responsible for any mistake or screw-up. It helps me shield my ego and most insecurity goes away. If pro-gamers can just step into this role as a gamer and an e-sports ambassador (© Day[9]) when being interviewed I'm sure they'll come across more professional than if they wear $500 crocodile skin shoes and keeps staring at them when spoken to.

Edit: Also, a uniform (or a suit which is basically the uniform of the white collar employees) help you separate your ego from your profession. So, go go Korean style gaming uniforms!
Sworn
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada920 Posts
August 12 2010 09:08 GMT
#143
Yes Progamers should be pressured to look good not just on looks but also in personality. They are representing a community just as much as Brett Favre, Wayne Gretsky, Kobe Bryant and Tiger Woods. Some of these players screwed up and it put not just a bad face on their sport but also themselves. Idra would be an example of someone who doesn't always represent their community properly (With the BM and inappropriate behavior ingame).
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Odge
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden84 Posts
August 12 2010 09:11 GMT
#144
On August 12 2010 18:08 Sworn wrote:
Yes Progamers should be pressured to look good not just on looks but also in personality. They are representing a community just as much as Brett Favre, Wayne Gretsky, Kobe Bryant and Tiger Woods. Some of these players screwed up and it put not just a bad face on their sport but also themselves. Idra would be an example of someone who doesn't always represent their community properly (With the BM and inappropriate behavior ingame).


I on the contrary believe that real emotion is important to make the game successful in the west.
jarlelin
Profile Joined June 2010
Norway31 Posts
August 12 2010 10:23 GMT
#145
I wouldnt want gamers in general to try to look as every other athlete in the world. Gamers will generally be nerds, and nerds can be sexy in their own way. Im a nerd, and I'm not overly introvert. A pretty normal socializing nerd with average looks and thats the way I like it. I still dont wish to be associated with the worst examples of our kind.

My thought is that with the advent of sponsors being representable to the public becomes more important. Over time it will be the responsibility and in the automatic interest of sponsors that their clients are representable. As western sponsors become more involved I am certain that western progamers will be further incentivized to take care in their appearance.
somedumbgamer
Profile Joined May 2010
United States46 Posts
August 12 2010 10:26 GMT
#146
I feel like if someone's going to be making a public appearance, they should make at least some effort to not look terribly nerdy, anti-social, unapproachable, etc. It's only going to hurt their reputation if they look really... well, unattractive.
writer22816
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States5775 Posts
August 12 2010 10:34 GMT
#147
Well I don't see anything wrong with the top players, and I don't blame the B players for not really caring. I mean some people like (P)JangBi are just balling out of control. And honestly, Hiya and Shine can't really help it. Cut them some slack.
8/4/12 never forget, never forgive.
heishe
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany2284 Posts
August 12 2010 10:40 GMT
#148
On August 12 2010 17:54 tarsier wrote:
the only truely ugly character in the pro gaming scene is artosis. he really looks like an energy drink fuelled nerd who never goes outside except to interview some guy in a coffee shop. i don't think he's slept since 1998.

everyone else is pretty normal looking.


haha lol that's kinda mean but I chuckled rather hard.
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OTIX
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden491 Posts
August 12 2010 10:44 GMT
#149
Madfrog is hot.

yum yum
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33723 Posts
August 12 2010 10:46 GMT
#150
On August 12 2010 18:08 Sworn wrote:
Yes Progamers should be pressured to look good not just on looks but also in personality. They are representing a community just as much as Brett Favre, Wayne Gretsky, Kobe Bryant and Tiger Woods. Some of these players screwed up and it put not just a bad face on their sport but also themselves. Idra would be an example of someone who doesn't always represent their community properly (With the BM and inappropriate behavior ingame).

Maybe he doesn't present himself properly when losing games, but I'd say he did a pretty good job when interviewed by CNN etc...
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Therealdevil
Profile Joined May 2010
Netherlands1021 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-12 11:00:27
August 12 2010 10:59 GMT
#151
They don't have to look good, but they should care for how they look, with that I mean they should shave & wash their face before going to a lan!

also


I laughed inside when I saw the guy post about tiger woods, surely he can't be a role model for our children now can we, or do we want our children to be unfaithfull 2 timing cheating husbands? ^^
oh sry

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stafu
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia1196 Posts
August 12 2010 11:21 GMT
#152
On August 11 2010 05:05 f0rk wrote:
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Ghad
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway2551 Posts
August 12 2010 12:39 GMT
#153
On August 11 2010 04:36 SONE wrote:
if you are to appear at an event, don't look like a slob


Pretty much sums it up. If you want people to take you seriously, shower, shave and wear clean appropriate clothes.

And with the way society works, you will find that being fit rather than overweight is a plus as well. FML for my beer gut.
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Mizzles
Profile Joined May 2010
33 Posts
August 12 2010 13:23 GMT
#154
People seem to think the Korean progamers all have naturally good senses of style and dashing good looks.

I'm pretty sure they use stylists. That is what Western gamers need.

Ok, if you aren't pulling big tournament income you can't afford to hire a professional stylist, but surely you have a friend or a sibling or a friend of a sibling who knows something about looking good and it really usually doesn't take that much to pull someone from disgusting slob to presentable. It doesn't even take a suit and shining black leather shoes, the difference between a t-shirt that fits and one that doesn't is amazing.

Not everyone has to look like a boy-toy either. You can look rugged, just don't look like you live in a basement.
Spawkuring
Profile Joined July 2008
United States755 Posts
August 12 2010 13:41 GMT
#155
This doesn't even need to be debated. The answer is an obvious yes. It's not even a pro-gamer issue, but just basic common sense. If you're going to appear on public or attempt to make something mainstream, then make sure that you are presentable. I don't even consider it shallow either, there's just really no excuse to not obey the basic rules of hygiene and dress regardless of your culture.

Not everyone is a super model of course, but a shower, shave, decent set of clothes, and a non-awkward speech pattern go a long way.
Panoptic
Profile Joined September 2009
United Kingdom515 Posts
August 12 2010 13:48 GMT
#156
On August 12 2010 19:46 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
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On August 12 2010 18:08 Sworn wrote:
Yes Progamers should be pressured to look good not just on looks but also in personality. They are representing a community just as much as Brett Favre, Wayne Gretsky, Kobe Bryant and Tiger Woods. Some of these players screwed up and it put not just a bad face on their sport but also themselves. Idra would be an example of someone who doesn't always represent their community properly (With the BM and inappropriate behavior ingame).

Maybe he doesn't present himself properly when losing games, but I'd say he did a pretty good job when interviewed by CNN etc...


I think he was incredibly articulate and well spoken...but he still looked like a massive nerd, which, I don't blame him for one bit (I'm a nerd too), it's just that it maintains a stereotypical image which the majority of people will be prejudiced about.
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zee
Profile Joined January 2010
201 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-12 13:52:10
August 12 2010 13:51 GMT
#157
Yes, to not give esports a bad name. Just follow the korean model.
Cedstick
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Canada3336 Posts
August 12 2010 13:56 GMT
#158
Yes, but not just for marketing image. Set a good example for those in the community, mostly the younger players. If we're going to have such static, unhealthy hobbies and even careers like this, we need to stay in shape and not fuck over half the population. It's the same idea as people cutting shit like McDonalds out of their life to keep America thin or whatever.
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Meldrath
Profile Joined June 2010
United States620 Posts
August 12 2010 13:59 GMT
#159
Toss girl = the hawtness and she can likely destroy me in sc1
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RaLakedaimon
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1564 Posts
August 12 2010 14:03 GMT
#160
I think their should be some thought to looking decent but honestly the Korean pro's always have the fancy hair and clothes so i guess their good to go in that sense. European players (from what ive seen) seem to dress and look good enough but US players dont really seem to be following any of those dress rules lol. I suppose when the game actually starts getting a larger audience here in America than this will change, i mean comon people here like to watch nasty whores act like bitches to one another on tv here so i assume many will find this particular "niche" to be fulfilling and when that happens gamers will become more "pretty"
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